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Yeah, because that LTK cover is from the new Blu-ray/DVD release of the 50 years of Bond films. Those covers are absolutely atrocious for the most part, and airbrushed/altered to hell. At times the actors look unrecognizable.
LTK looks like a much better movie on this DVD cover, a more Bondian movie.
I find it interesting that Dalton was frustrated about LTK, to the point that he thought it might be the last James Bond. Anyone has any details about what he thought of the movie as a finished product?
I thought he meant LTK itself. Funny, it seems the actor often seems dissatisfied with the second Bond movie they made: it was the case of Brosnan who thought TND was not as good as GE and Craig with QOS. What did Moore think of TMWTGG? I know Sean Connery considered FRWL his favorite, but this seems to be the exception confirming the rule.
While LTK has a better villain than TLD, I find the plot rather thin and crammed with 80s clichés. Beautiful Bond girls, heck Lupe Lamore is a classic Bond girl IMO, great action scenes, suitably dangerous villain... But I always have the impression of a Miami Vice episode with Bond doing a long cameo.
Like @Ludivico, I thought Dalton was quoted as saying 'I think this might be the last one' during the making of LTK?
I have never read a proper interview with Dalton about exactly what he felt about his movies. The impression I get from snippets I've read is that he was not particularly keen on LTK. He echoes the comments that DC made after QoS and CR, in saying that he was keen to inject a bit more humour and light heartedness into his third film.
LTK is an unusual Bond film and people are obviously divided about it. I suspect Dalts has mixed feelings about it as well.
People often assume that because DC has so much influence now that the actors back then also had a lot of of input on their films. Dalton was given the script for LTK a week or two before filming started. I don't think he had a lot of input into the tone of the movie at all and despite this idea that he was the 'serious' Bond, I don't think he necessarily thought LTK was the right direction to go in. He certainly wanted to get back to Fleming and inject a bit more reality into the character, but I don't think he particularly wanted to take things as far as LTK did. Everything I've read points towards him wanting his third to be more in the style of TLD.
The other thing were the financial difficulties at the time. LTK was not even filmed at Pinewood, which I think adds to the sense of it being a very different Bond. The cast and crew must have felt the difference as well - like being thrown out of your home. I believe the studio was squeezing the budget the absolute minimum as well.
"My feeling is this will be the last one. I don`t mean my last one. I mean the end of the whole lot. I don`t speak with any real authority, but it`s sort of a feeling I have. Sorry!".
http://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/bond_17_intro.php3
Yeah I've heard that quote before. Kind of a shame really that he thought that way. Times must have been difficult. The more I think about it, the more I wonder whether Dalton had a bit of a "take it or leave it" attitude to the whole thing. At least Craig was like: "We're going to do more" and trying to stay positive. I suppose the situation was worse in '89.
Yeah I agree. Though I don't think Craig would say something like "the next one will be the last of the lot"
I'll ditto that ditto to @ ultrabox. I find the film to be very Bondian and it still exhibits many of his usual character traits if you're looking for them, he's just really pissed off and wanted to kill these bastards. It was good to show Bond's darkest side for a change. I believe the character needs a film like this once a decade or so to remind everyone Bond isn't just a suave, womanizing playboy type.
LTK remains my 3rd favorite Bond film, with TLD in 5th. I was immediately on the Dalton bandwagon after TLD and always for both films.
PS--I agree with ohfilms1's praise for LTK. It's steadily crept up my rankings, and with my last viewing, has clearly surpassed TLD in my esteem. A marvelous Bond film. If one of the Daltons is underrated, it's LTK.
"The dirtiest, meanest, nastiest, brutalist hero...we'd ever seen"
Really?
Kermin Bay once described Bond as "too soft" and Bond himself had reservations about killing in cold blood. It made him uncomfortable. He had a vengeful streak but it was usually a private matter between him and his enemy. He wouldn't let it effect his job.
I like LTK but, as I've said before, its too dark for a Bond film. I want a "High flown romanticised charicature" like the adventures Fleming wrote ;)
Such a missed opportunity in many ways. They should have toned down the '80s action' stuff. John Glen was too much in a panic to compete with the 80s action stars. The bar fight scene is ridiculous and the truck action sequence at the end is a bore.
There are some highlights, which hardly coincidentally are more Bondian, including:
Casino scene
On Milton Krest's boat
Sanchez's Villa
Bob Peak's rejected artwork was fabulous too.
My main problem with it: it looks and feels too much like a generic 80s action movie. Even Bond's motivation, his resignation from MI6, the villain being a drug lord, it is all 80s action movies clichés.
Yeah, so bloody boring. Felt like falling asleep, especially when he tilted the tanker onto two wheels to dodge a rocket. And the tense stand off which ends with Bond burning Sanchez alive? I-)
Really, Dalton said that? Hmm, very strange. I usually agree with Dalton
It was on the Everything or Nothing documentary. I think he was perhaps being a little over dramatic and showy there ("BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM").
Bingo!
I'm a huge Dalton fan and LTK is my favourite film not just of his but of the entire series! And the truck sequence is Tremendous!!!
LTK rocks so hard, diamonds seem soft.
Hey, hey, now. Just because you love LTK doesn't mean you have to slag off on DAF!
;)