Coming Soon To Consoles! - The Upcoming Games Thread

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  • Posts: 6,396
    Well the review embargo has finally been lifted on Batman: Arkham Origins. It currently holds a score of 79/100 on Metacritic. I think the concensus, from what I've ascertained so far, is that it's still good but feels like an expansion of the previous games and doesn't offer us anything new. Something I was a bit worried about when it was first announced this game would be a prequel. I may save my own money and get it as a Christmas present instead.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    Drat! I'll still buy the game but it's nice to know now, that is doesn't quite live up to the hype. Thanks @WillyGalore.
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    Yes it's probably why WB didn't want the embargo lifted till today @Samuel001
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    What? Doesn't live up to the hype? Who said that? That review is the opinion of one person, and I am dumb-founded how often people will completely turn down a game or book based on one opinion about it. Why not buy it yourself and make your own opinion? I may sound like a broken record, but this game will mean more to actual Batman fans than a casual reviewer who doesn't know the Caped Crusader from Superman. If you are going to pay attention to the reviews at all, go for the ones made by fans of the character. I can't wait to get this game, and no score is going to make me stop wanting it.
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    What? Doesn't live up to the hype? Who said that? That review is the opinion of one person, and I am dumb-founded how often people will completely turn down a game or book based on one opinion about it. Why not buy it yourself and make your own opinion? I may sound like a broken record, but this game will mean more to actual Batman fans than a casual reviewer who doesn't know the Caped Crusader from Superman. If you are going to pay attention to the reviews at all, go for the ones made by fans of the character. I can't wait to get this game, and no score is going to make me stop wanting it.

    It's not one opinion though. Metacritic compiles all reviews and gives it an aggregate score. Whilst, I agree I would never let any review put me off from seeing a film, I will be more cautious when it comes to buying a video game. After all, there is a big difference between a £7 cinema ticket and a £45 game.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    What? Doesn't live up to the hype? Who said that? That review is the opinion of one person, and I am dumb-founded how often people will completely turn down a game or book based on one opinion about it. Why not buy it yourself and make your own opinion? I may sound like a broken record, but this game will mean more to actual Batman fans than a casual reviewer who doesn't know the Caped Crusader from Superman. If you are going to pay attention to the reviews at all, go for the ones made by fans of the character. I can't wait to get this game, and no score is going to make me stop wanting it.

    It's not one opinion though. Metacritic compiles all reviews and gives it an aggregate score. Whilst, I agree I would never let any review put me off from seeing a film, I will be more cautious when it comes to buying a video game. After all, there is a big difference between a £7 cinema ticket and a £45 game.

    I was more referring to the past times where this has happened, and most recently with Boyd's Bond novel, but I get your point. Like I said, I would wait for the reviews to flood in from the fans of the games/character, like IGN.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    If anything, for those who are cautious of getting it, you could wait a week or two and pick it up used for a week from GameStop. If you don't like it, return it.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    I'll wait for the price to drop. I bought Arkham City soon after release, and just didn't like it anywhere as much as I did Arkham Asylam. And I see Batman still looks short.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I'll wait for the price to drop. I bought Arkham City soon after release, and just didn't like it anywhere as much as I did Arkham Asylam. And I see Batman still looks short.

    My friend let me borrow 'Arkham City,' and I agree, it wasn't as enjoyable as 'Arkham Asylum' was. I also see they tacked on MP for 'Arkham Origins,' not sure why they thought that was a good idea.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    edited October 2013 Posts: 13,978
    Tacking on multiplayer is becoming a trend. Same with the Tomb Raider reboot.Did that really need a multiplayer mode? I don't think so.
  • Posts: 6,396
    Tacking on multiplayer is becoming a trend. Same with the Tomb Raider reboot.Did that really need a multiplayer mode? I don't think so.

    Agreed, the MP in Tomb Raider is just awful.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Tacking on multiplayer is becoming a trend. Same with the Tomb Raider reboot.Did that really need a multiplayer mode? I don't think so.

    Agreed, the MP in Tomb Raider is just awful.

    How does that work...? :-O
  • Posts: 6,396
    Just standard deathmatch really. Pirates on one side, good guys on the other. But it's so ropey and nowhere near as smooth as the SP. For better a online TR, I'd recommend The Guardian of Light. It's absolutely stellar in co-mode.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I mean, I can understand how 'Tomb Raider' MP would work, but I heard mostly negative reviews and it really wasn't necessary. How in the hell does competitive Batman MP work? I don't get it. Like it's been said, MP gets tacked onto almost everything these days. You'll have a great new SP game that comes out, and the second or third installment after that adds MP: 'Mass Effect,' 'Bioshock,' etc., though the former's wasn't competitive, merely co-op arenas, and it was incredibly fun.
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    @Creasy47 MP in Batman works likes this: 3v3v2. Two rival gangs of 3 against each other plus 2 players randomly selected as Batman and Robin fighting both gangs.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @WillyGalore, still sounds like an unnecessary tack-on. Did the same developer who did the SP work on the MP, as well? Because if that's the case, they could've spared fans some not needed MP and given them more missions and things to do in the SP.
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    WB Montreal did the SP. Splash Damage did the MP.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @WillyGalore, suppose that's something. The last time I played a game like that was 'Medal of Honor,' where the SP and MP were done by different developers.
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    @WillyGalore, suppose that's something. The last time I played a game like that was 'Medal of Honor,' where the SP and MP were done by different developers.

    And Colonial Marines. But apparently that was too abysmal to play.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @WillyGalore, *shudders*. Another game with overly terrible reviews that took a few minutes of gameplay watching for me to write off as a waste of time.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Have any of you even seen or played the Batman Arkham Origins multiplayer? If not, I wouldn't be so quick to call it tacked on. I have seen a lot of it, and it seems very fleshed out, and is intended to provide players with something else to play post campaign. It certainly didn't look "tacked on" to me.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    It's tacked on to me because when I played both 'Arkham Asylum' and 'Arkham City,' not once did I think "You know what would make this game much better? Multiplayer." The single player was always great, and it just doesn't seem like a game that needs MP.

    Just watch some gameplay, and my opinion still stands: it looks tacked on and unnecessary, and gives me flashbacks of 'Gears of War' online.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    It's tacked on to me because when I played both 'Arkham Asylum' and 'Arkham City,' not once did I think "You know what would make this game much better? Multiplayer." The single player was always great, and it just doesn't seem like a game that needs MP.

    Just watch some gameplay, and my opinion still stands: it looks tacked on and unnecessary, and gives me flashbacks of 'Gears of War' online.

    Just because the single player is so good it doesn't need multiplayer doesn't mean the developers aren't allowed to include it, though. By that logic no games by Rockstar, NaughtyDog, or scores of other great developers would ever have a multiplayer element to them. The developers of Origins are experimenting with the online function, and I say more power to them. Why not try to add something more to the series and see how it pans out?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7, I don't feel that MP added to games like that usually work out. I don't know the case for 'Uncharted' as I never played the online, but was that really the high point of it? No, I would think the single player was, as is the case with GTA IV, GTA V, and RDR. Hell, look how abysmal and ruined the GTA Online was because of the bugs, glitches, etc. It's a separate case, but still, it didn't work out. When I hear anyone speak of how great the aforementioned games are, it's never because of the multiplayer, always the single player. If they want to add it on, more power to them, it most certainly does add a replay value to it, but it isn't going to be a big selling point. I really don't believe that the people who lined up to purchase 'Arkham Origins' only did it because of the multiplayer.

    And although it's sad, sometimes a MP portion of a game can ruin my entire experience. I already wasn't a big fan of 'GTA V' and it's SP, but still, it was entertaining and worth a purchase. Once the Online came out and I (and almost everyone else) experienced bugs, glitches, loss of money, characters, apartments, vehicles, XP, and rank, along with it just being laggy and near impossible to connect to most of the times, it just made a bad impression on the entirety of the game for me, and I haven't played it since.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7, I don't feel that MP added to games like that usually work out. I don't know the case for 'Uncharted' as I never played the online, but was that really the high point of it? No, I would think the single player was, as is the case with GTA IV, GTA V, and RDR. Hell, look how abysmal and ruined the GTA Online was because of the bugs, glitches, etc. It's a separate case, but still, it didn't work out. When I hear anyone speak of how great the aforementioned games are, it's never because of the multiplayer, always the single player. If they want to add it on, more power to them, it most certainly does add a replay value to it, but it isn't going to be a big selling point. I really don't believe that the people who lined up to purchase 'Arkham Origins' only did it because of the multiplayer.

    And although it's sad, sometimes a MP portion of a game can ruin my entire experience. I already wasn't a big fan of 'GTA V' and it's SP, but still, it was entertaining and worth a purchase. Once the Online came out and I (and almost everyone else) experienced bugs, glitches, loss of money, characters, apartments, vehicles, XP, and rank, along with it just being laggy and near impossible to connect to most of the times, it just made a bad impression on the entirety of the game for me, and I haven't played it since.

    Games should be about the campaign, and I don't understand why people only buy games for the online. The story and characters SHOULD be the selling point, but that doesn't mean developers shouldn't give the multiplayer a try and add it to their games. It gives you something to do post campaign while waiting for other games and lets you join up with friends. It isn't meant to be the main selling point of the game (except for fools like Activision maybe), that'd be foolish, but just because it isn't doesn't mean it can't be fun.

    Yes, GTA Online had issues, but now it runs smoothly and I enjoy it. It isn't perfect, but nothing is, especially since there are so many players getting online to play it all at once. That is hardly Rockstar's fault for making a game that people wanted to play non-stop, and they (and we) knew there would be problems from jump because of the heavy player traffic on the online portion of the game.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    It's a shame that the complete opposite of that is CoD: they tack on a mediocre campaign because they know their big selling point is online, which is abysmal. Shame.

    It may be different for PS3 users, because I frequent a GTA V 360 forum and people are still losing rank, XP, vehicles, etc. Hopefully they get it fixed soon, as they just announced some free Beach Bum DLC, and they won't be handing out the Stimulus Package until all of the bugs are fixed.

    I understand games have problems with launch - I get that, I don't fault any developer for not having a flawless launch - but there's a difference between a few bugs and some lag and the massive, ridiculous problems the GTAO release had.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Point taken, but I can only go by what I experienced in the Online, and after that first weekend I haven't had any issues whatsoever.
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    It's a shame about the only slightly positive reviews for origins, WB Montreal will probably have a hard time getting their hands on the franchise again, but I'll still get the game as, despite the fact there's nothing particularly new, that still means the game is really good anyway.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7, I didn't have a problem hopping Online. The tutorial glitched and I had to re-do the robbery mission, but that was it for the intro. Later on, I lost a whole lot of clothes, some progress on Platinum Awards, and over $100,000, which, at the time, was a lot of money to me. Just the general state of the Online was what made me mad, and the fact that I had millions of dollars, all of the achievements, and was well over rank 100, and there were still people who couldn't even connect was a big joke in my eyes.

    Looking to return to 'GTA IV' to mop up some achievements and play it a bit more after this weekend. I miss that game, though I know it will look bad visually because of how great the 'GTA V' graphics are.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Point taken, but I can only go by what I have experienced on the online, and after the first weekend I haven't had any issues.
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