Coming Soon To Consoles! - The Upcoming Games Thread

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    Probably the least surprising news all year. It's a shame, because given how bad Activision's Bond games were, I was looking forward to playing a decent spy game.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    I don't think it's cancelled at all. If the trademarks for the game were so recently renewed obviously everyone involved still has faith in the title, and the game was dropped from one guy's GameFly because it was the PS3 version of Agent, which won't happen now. It's obviously moved on and is being developed for the PS4 system instead, which is why the PS3 version is no longer appearing on some game renting outlets. I don't think this news is any reason to give up hope, lads.
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    I don't think it's cancelled at all. If the trademarks for the game were so recently renewed obviously everyone involved still has faith in the title, and the game was dropped from one guy's GameFly because it was the PS3 version of Agent, which won't happen now. It's obviously moved on and is being developed for the PS4 system instead, which is why the PS3 version is no longer appearing on some game renting outlets. I don't think this news is any reason to give up hope, lads.

    That means absolutely nothing. Rockstar are simply protecting their property.
  • It was announced in 2009, five years ago, for the ps3. Since then LA Noire, Max Payne 3 and GTA V (all made by Rockstar) have been and gone and the ps3 is being phased out, less and less games are coming out on it because the ps4 is out now.

    So is anyone actually surprised about this? I assumed it was cancelled ages ago.

    @WillyGalore If you're looking for a good spy game then I'd recommend the Splinter Cell games, I haven't played all of them but the ones I have played (Chaos Theory, Double Agent and Conviction) are great.

    And while assassins technically aren't spies, the Ezio Assassin's Creed games (II, Brotherhood, Revelations) have everything you could want from a spy game (the other Assassin's Creed games are great too and they still have stealth and everything but they're not really spy games, IV for example is a pirate game). I've said this a million times before but they're pretty much Renaissance set Bond films.

    God I wish Ubisoft had the Bond licence...
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    I'd rather it be Konami. The FOX Engine's friggin' amazing.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    New Sherlock Holmes: Crimes & Punishments trailer showcases interrogation technique:

    http://www.sherlockholmes-thegame.com/en/news/48-sherlock-holmes-crimes-punishments-interrogation-techniques-showcased-in-a-new-raw-gameplay-trailer.html

    I'm looking foward to this game. I liked The Testament Of Sherlock Holmes, despite some visual glitches.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    New Sherlock Holmes: Crimes & Punishments trailer showcases interrogation technique:

    http://www.sherlockholmes-thegame.com/en/news/48-sherlock-holmes-crimes-punishments-interrogation-techniques-showcased-in-a-new-raw-gameplay-trailer.html

    I'm looking foward to this game. I liked The Testament Of Sherlock Holmes, despite some visual glitches.

    I hope this game turns out to be as ground-breaking as it purports, because it sounds like an amazing experience.

    From the Frogwares site for the game:

    Re-evaluating clues gained from interrogations, physical evidence, observations and crime-scenes will unlock further paths of deduction, and lead to more clues and dialogue options. During interrogation scenes, you’ll be able to interject, and support your argument by selecting the piece of evidence that supports your case. Successfully doing so will leave the suspect astounded, and they’ll soon crumble in the face of Holmes’ skills, and your wits, eventually revealing more information about the case.

    Across six unique cases, you’ll meet up to five suspects per investigation, all of whom could logically be connected to the crime, enough to have committed it. Each suspect can be convicted, and in some cases suspects can be convicted together, so it’s imperative that detectives develop an understanding of the characters and their backgrounds to supplement information gained from examining crime scenes, in order to build the clearest picture from which to deduce the most likely culprit.


    I like that you could arrest multiple people for one of the murders, and they may all be innocent without you even realizing it. It really creates a sense of risk and uncertainty to the game, which is great. I still want to play Testament first, but I would definitely give this game a try if I went next-gen. Do give us your thoughts on it, @MajorDSmythe, once you get the game.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    I will certainly post my thoughts when the game is released, just over a month from now. We'll see if the interrogation mechanics hold up to the press release.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    One week left until 'Destiny' and 'NHL 15' are released. I think I'll pick up the former as soon as it's released and grab the latter over Thanksgiving Break. Anyone picking up either of these on the PS4?
  • @Creasy47 I'm getting a PS4 for Christmas but don't know if any big games are due around then. Most of the ones I'll want aren't due for release until 2015.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    @Creasy47 I'm getting a PS4 for Christmas but don't know if any big games are due around then. Most of the ones I'll want aren't due for release until 2015.

    Same here. The only two games that could force my hand and make me go out and buy a PS4 are Uncharted 4 and Batman: Arkham Knight, which should both be out in Q4 of 2015 if reports and delays are anything to go by. I would be happy if neither game came out even close to that date and we had to wait until early to mid 2016, as that'll give a lot of time for the console price to go down and there would be more deals on what games you could get with it once purchased.

    I've never been a big buyer of games, because If I got more than three at a time I'd fight with myself over what to play next, equally excited for all the games. I also spend a lot of time with each of my games, especially the open world ones, so I never feel the need to get other titles if nothing sparks my fancy. I usually buy a game or two a year at most, but nothing beyond that as not much really interests me besides the sandbox games and third person adventure titles, and I hate first person shooters. I guess that explains why Naughty Dog and Rockstar are my two favorite developers. I very much look forward to both of their next efforts, two games which have every chance to be amongst the best games ever crafted for human consumption.
  • I've actually ordered an Xbox One with Titanfall today. I can't wait, my mate has one and when I played his I was very impressed.

    There are quite a few games I'm looking forward to (COD, Far Cry, Alien and FIFA) but I won't have time to play them all so some will have to wait. The only one I plan on buying when it comes out is FIFA.

    The main games I'm looking forward to are the two new Assassin's Creed games. I like the look of all the improvements Rogue has made, the arctic setting will be fun to explore and the story seems really interesting. And then there's Unity which just looks mind blowing.

    I think I'm gonna get Assassin's Creed Rogue first because playing that after Unity would be hard. Then I'm gonna get Unity.

    So yeah, I'll be getting FIFA and Assassin's Creed when they come out. Alien, COD, etc, I'll get at some point next year.
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    @0Brady. I've never been a fan of first person shooters either. The odd one or two have held my interest but generally I give them a wide berth. Can't stand what the COD games have become. I also love third person and sandbox titles so I'm with you on Naughty Dog and Rockstar.

    I may well end up getting The Last Of Us Remastered as my first PS4 game.
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    @Brady @WillyGalore Why do you hate first person games? I can think of some great ones. Goldeneye on the n64 is a classic. Nightfire is I think the best Bond game ever made, you feel more like Bond in that game (an fps) more than any of the third person ones. Far Cry 3 was really fun, it gave you lots of freedom and had a great open world full of fun stuff to do (I didn't like the story missions though). Dishonoured is one of the best games ever made, there's so much freedom and it's so much fun. The Fallout games are amazing with massive fleshed out open worlds and tons of characters, quests, guns, weapons, etc (you can go in third person but it's terrible, the game was designed to be played in first person). Same with Skyrim, you can play that in first person (although it's not really necessary like with Fallout, the third person option is way better in that game) and that game is mind blowing.

    I agree on Rockstar but am I the only one who thinks Naughty Dog are a bit overrated? The Uncharted games are good sure but they're always very similar (people give the Assassin's Creed games flack for being too similar but they've changed more and taken way more risks than Uncharted imo). Plus they're very linear and you have no choice of how to go about things, it's always what the game wants. And while the set pieces are cool, a lot of the time it feels like all you're doing is shooting. There's not much variety and it gets a bit boring after a while.

    Ubisoft are the best for me. Assassin's Creed, Splinter Cell, Far Cry and that Rocky game they did on ps2.
  • I've just never really connected with first person shooters. Goldeneye was good, mostly because of the 4 way multiplayer. (Still don't think the single campaign is all that) and I quite liked Ubisoft's XIII on the PS2 but that was mainly for the cell shaded graphics, which I thought were outstanding.

    It's easy to think Naughty Dog might be a one trick pony because of Uncharted.

    Then they released The Last Of Us and the rest as they say is history.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    The problem I have with FPS games is the exact opposite of what you like about them, @thelivingroyale: I don't feel like I am the characters. The horrid first person view is the end all be all issue I have with those games, as I only see the character holding their hands on a gun, and that subtracts from my connection to them, which doesn't make me feel like I am playing that character at all. In games like Uncharted the camera is third person view so that you can take in everything from your character model to the environment around you, which better serves to immerse me in the experience and make me feel like I am actually playing Drake on all these adventures. There's just a strange separation I feel when playing an FPS where I feel disconnected from the character I'm playing, and any interest significantly depletes from there.

    As for Naughty Dog, I definitely wouldn't call them overrated, because in my mind they have earned their praise. I have seen endless videos of their studio and employees through the many video diaries on their games, and I really respect their level of passion and enthusiasm for the game industry and their own brilliant titles that they send out to the marketplace. Their team is talented and lively, pushing the limits of what can be done with the tech of game consoles, and they always go out of their way to make it harder for themselves to make better games by tackling challenging environments (like the desert in U3) and more detailed character models that truly feel like real human beings, things that really push the capabilities of the PS3's (and now PS4's) technology.

    I also have to speak up for Uncharted, a series which you can't really criticize for being too "linear" since the games have never tried to be like that in the first place. That'd be like calling GTA too open-ended even though the devlopers made a conscious decision to make the game like that in the first place. The Uncharted series is one which has managed to keep a steady formula while still innovating like mad. The combat and gunplay from Uncharted 1 and 2 was day and night, and the latter has the best overall mechanics of the series in my opinion. With each game the action gets ramped up, 2 and 3 being epic cinematic experiences, and the developers always push any limits they can in crafting jaw-dropping set pieces. We went from some nice little moments of action in Uncharted 1's jungle environments to #2's brilliant the heist sequence, Nepal war zone set piece, explosive train set piece, village battle and convoy chase (to just name a few), to #3's burning chateau sequence with a building that felt like it was burning in real time, a sinking ship level where the dev team actually made a simulated ocean with real time effects that never acted on the boat in the same way, the chase and fights in Yemen (like when Drake is drugged), the cargo fight and the great sequences when you near Iram at the tail end of the action and witness the most spectacular recreation of a desert environment ever seen in a game. Innovation is very much ND's goal here, and they have succeeded in doing new things and taking the games to new and exciting levels and locales, while also maturing their characters and narratives in deep and interesting ways (like Nate and Elena's relationship) which they have done while still staying true to that core Uncharted formula. Assassin's Creed, eat your heart out. ;)
  • Nobody's looking forward to MGS5? Hell that's the reason I got a PS4!!
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    I am.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    There are quite a few games releasing in the fall that have me interested: 'Little Big Planet 3,' 'Lords of the Fallen,' 'Far Cry 4,' 'Assassin's Creed: Unity,' and a few others I'm sure I am forgetting.
  • Glad I'm not the only one getting Unity.

    Assassin's Creed is just the best. Amazing, massive open worlds set in different historical eras full of fun stuff to do, parkour (you can climb pretty much eveything in the game world), brutal combat with tons of different weapons, great stories that actually make you think, jaw dropping set pieces, tomb raiding, hunting, epic naval battles, assassinations, loads of unique characters that actually develop realistically, etc. And I've learnt more from these games than I did in history at school (I didn't really listen much in history at school but that's not the point :P ).

    It annoys me how so many people write off the series as being a cash cow like COD just because it comes out every year. The yearly release doesn't matter, it doesn't impact the quality and they take more risks than some series which have massive gaps between games (GTA for example, while amazing games, don't really take many risks).
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    I won't be getting Unity, not yet, anyway. So it'll be AC:Rogue for me. With Black Flag restoring my interest (I lost interest after the overpraised Ezio and the wet flannel that was Connnor) in the series, i'm ready for more.
  • Ezio was in no way overpraised, he was a great character. Charming, suave, badass but also flawed and fleshed out. And he sounded so cool, the Italian accent sounded really badass. Not so much when he was a squeaky voiced teen but by the end of AC 2, when he was in his 40s and his voice was really deep, he sounded epic. Best video game voice ever. Plus you get to see his whole life, from the moment he's born to the moment he dies. You get to see him mature from a reckless revenge driven teenager to a wise, badass, world weary assassin leader.

    There's a reason that he got sequels while none of the others did and that's because he was an amazing character.

    I think Connor, while not a very likeable character, is a perfect example of what I was on about before, he's a great example of Ubisoft taking risks that Naughty Dog and others wouldn't dare to. He doesn't really have what you'd expect from a traditional leading man. He's not a really serious cold dark badass type or a charming witty type like most main characters. Instead he's a flawed, short tempered, reckless, stubborn, awkward but brave and honest character that goes through a lot of shit but still manages to stay as a genuinely good person who wants to do the right thing.

    1) Ezio
    2) Edward
    3) Adewale

    4) Haytham
    5) Connor


    6) Altair (Revelations fleshed him out a bit more and made him more likeable but he's still nowhere near as good as the others, he's a very dull character imo and I get sick of hearing about how he's the best, if he wasn't the first one then nobody would like him).

    After watching the trailers and demos, I'm not really sold on Arnaud yet but then I wasn't too sure about Connor and I ended up liking him in the end. Shay seems pretty cool.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    Ezio was overpriased, 3 games with him was part of the reason why I started to loose interest in the series (the best bits of Revelations were the brief Altair missions). Connor/AC3 only further accelerated my disinterest. It was only when it had been suggested by someone who had felt the same as I did, that I really should give Black Flag a try, that I became interested again.

    And I don't think being the first makes pople like Altair. They propably like him for his character. While some constantly bleat on about him being bland, others, like myself, see Altair as cold and stoic, cocky at first, but as he re-earns his place in the order, he settles down and grows more Assassin-like.

    1. Edward
    2. Altair
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    3. Haytham
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    4. Desmond/Ezzzzzzzzio
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    5. Connor
  • Well I think the praise was deserved. Ezio was great.

    Desmond was crap, I agree. No personality, nothing interesting about him. A lot of people thought his ending was anti climatic and while I agree that it was a massive let down after five games of build up, I wasn't that bothered because I was never really invested in his story to start with. I was glad to see the back of him.

    Altair was just boring imo. He went from being an irritating cocky knobhead (with a jarring American accent) to being a cold, stoic, flawless assassin and he had no personality. We don't really know him as a character like the others either. We don't find out about his interests, his backstory, his family, none of that. I'm all for a mysterious character but make him likeable and interesting at least. That's why I was glad he wasn't in AC 2 and why I preferred him in Revelations, he was much more fleshed out and despite only getting about half an hours screentime at most, we learn more about him than we did in all 20 hours or so of AC 1. Plus he had an accent that fitted where he was from and he was more likeable. Revelations redeemed him a bit for me but he still doesn't compare to the others imo. Even Adewale, who didn't get a full game (just a DLC) was more fleshed out and interesting.

    Completely disagree on Revelations. Ezio's story was miles better than Altair's The ending, where he finally retires because he doesn't want to make the mistakes Altair did (see, Ezio WAS better :P ) and speaks to Desmond, was brilliant. And he was at his most badass in that game. In the opening cut scene alone he climbs a mountain, takes on an entire army single handed and escapes when he's about to be hung. And throughout the game he does stuff like killing a town full of soldiers even though he's nearly dead, parasailing from the back of a moving cart, blowing up the underground city, blowing up the docks and escaping in the ship, parkouring through a crumbling old temple while being shot at, etc. And he did all this even though he was nearly 60. What a f***ing boss.
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    I didn't think Ezio was any more special than any of the others. We didn't play as them nearly as long as him. If anybody, actually, why didn't we get the Black Flag guy (Edward, right? I keep forgetting, because we didn't get to play as him for as long as Ezio) for multiple games? He was a downright badass.
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    Because Edwards story was done. He'd joined the assassins, stopped the Templars from getting the observatory and in the process redeemed himself and made up for all his mistakes. Then he finally returned to England to look after his kid and to live the life of luxury he'd always wanted. Plus we know how his story ends, they did a book for it: He moves from Bristol to a big manor in London, remarries and has Haytham. Then a friend of his turns out to be a Templar and betrays him, sending mercenaries to kill him, burn down his house and kidnap his daughter who gets sold into slavery. His friend then tells Edwards wife that he could train Haytham and she agrees to this (thinking he meant the assassins). But then this friend (the bloke who is with Haytham in the opera house at the start of AC III) tells Haytham that it was the assassins who killed his dad. He trains Haytham to be a Templar.

    I guess you could have had a sequel with him in London before his death but London in the early 1700s is pretty dull compared to the golden age of pirates, the French revolution, etc.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    cocky knobhead

    That is how Ezio started and finished. I couldn't wait for a misfortune to befall him, and take him down a peg or two.
    Completely disagree on Revelations. Ezio's story was miles better than Altair's The ending, where he finally retires because he doesn't want to make the mistakes Altair did (see, Ezio WAS better :P )

    Altair didn't exactly have any choice, he was exhiled from the order for 30 years, if I recall correctly.
    And he was at his most badass in that game. In the opening cut scene alone he climbs a mountain, takes on an entire army single handed and escapes when he's about to be hung. And throughout the game he does stuff like killing a town full of soldiers even though he's nearly dead, parasailing from the back of a moving cart, blowing up the underground city, blowing up the docks and escaping in the ship, parkouring through a crumbling old temple while being shot at, etc. And he did all this even though he was nearly 60. What a f***ing boss.

    Snap. Altair retook the order when he was in his 70's, or maybe even 80's (my memory is a bit fuzzy on the exact details of Revelations) eventually dieing aged 92.

    At the end of the day, this series has many aspects to appeal to many people. I wonder if there are any Desmond fans out there. There has to be one, somewhere.
    I didn't think Ezio was any more special than any of the others. We didn't play as them nearly as long as him. If anybody, actually, why didn't we get the Black Flag guy (Edward, right? I keep forgetting, because we didn't get to play as him for as long as Ezio) for multiple games? He was a downright badass.

    Edward Kenway. He's usurped Altair as my favourite Assassin of the series. Welsh Assassins don't just look like this:

    http://cdn3.whatculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/timothy-dalton.png

    ;)
  • Yeah that's another thing that's great about the series. There's such a wide variety of characters and games that at least one will appeal to you, there's something for everyone.

    I've read some posts on reddit saying that they liked Desmond because they found him relatable, he was just an average guy. I thought he was just really bland and boring. Personally I thought the modern day stuff was a decent idea but it was poorly executed and it's one of the few things I don't like about Assassin's Creed.
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    I liked the modern day stuff, and seriously wished that the last game to feature Desmond would have been entirely modern day.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    The appeal of the series for me, along with the characters and stories, is playing in a different place at a different time. I'm not a fan of Desmond, or the modern day sections of the games. I am not keen on the idea of an all present day Assassin's Creed, but without seeing anything of the game, I can't be 100% certain.
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