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When James Bond 007 had an 'off' moment.....

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  • 007RogerMoore007RogerMoore
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    MartinBond wrote:


    Why does Bond kneel behind the Aston while it's invisible?

    It´s not really invisible, it just reflect light from the surroundings, which makes it hard to see. But Bond is behind it, cause he can´t be seen there. Exactly the same would happen if it were grey.
    MartinBond wrote:
    Oh, and one of the most famous ones: why does Bond hit Felix in the stomach for trying to say 007 and then says it himself in the bathroom - where the gangster is hiding?!

    I think we are supposed to think that the goon had fainted, and Bond woke him up shortly thereafter.
  • slyfoxslyfox
    edited April 2012 Posts: 940
    007RogerMoore wrote:
    slyfox wrote:

    An off-moment for me is in OQS when after throwing the guy off the roof in Austria, M accuses Bond of shooting the guy at point blank and Bond doesn't deny this or even question it. Grrrrrrrrrr.

    I have tried to figure this about so many times. I mean, how can Bond so stupid and not say what really happened?

    I know! Because the whole point is MI6 want Bond to come in and report BECAUSE he shot the man dead (which he didn't). Consequently, he had his passports and credit cards cancelled because MI6 thought he shot the man dead. Why not tell the truth! I think it's probably another case of bulletholes in the QOS script.
    DarthDimi wrote:
    Actually I'm glad about that. I love the fact that Bond hardly cares.

    But he could still say "I only threw him off the roof" and not care. Its more a case of it all not making sense to me.
  • 007RogerMoore007RogerMoore
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    slyfox wrote:
    007RogerMoore wrote:
    slyfox wrote:

    An off-moment for me is in OQS when after throwing the guy off the roof in Austria, M accuses Bond of shooting the guy at point blank and Bond doesn't deny this or even question it. Grrrrrrrrrr.

    I have tried to figure this about so many times. I mean, how can Bond so stupid and not say what really happened?

    I know! Because the whole point is MI6 want Bond to come in and report BECAUSE he shot the man dead (which he didn't). Consequently, he had his passports and credit cards cancelled because MI6 thought he shot the man dead. Why not tell the truth! I think it's probably another case of bulletholes in the QOS script.

    Perhaps Bond got a blackout or was under so much stress that he forgot? Same when Hip drives away from Bond in TMWTGG (trying to explain both scenes).
    If not, Bond was either stupid or trying to get into a conflict with MI6. The latter is hardly the case.

  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Hip driving away with Bond left behind is one of many examples of how Hamilton thought that comedy is an appropriate substitute for tension in the Bond films. It makes no sense in the world. Even if these weren't experienced or well-trained men, they'd still not make this mistake.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    While I love TMWTGG, I agree that Hip driving away from Bond just drives me nuts everytime !!
  • Master_DaharkMaster_Dahark
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    A word about him driving away- which adds even more WTF Factor to the scene: before I owned the movies I had to see them on TV. Remember during Christmas when they would have the huge marathons? I LOVED that time of year! Anyway--
    In the TV version of TMWTGG, when he drives away, the girls in the backseat are yelling but in this version they have subtitles! My DVD just has yelling. The subtitles say 'Stop Stop we left him behind, stop the car!!!' (or something like that). There is absolutely no feasible reason for him to leave Bond behind!!!
    That dude should have been FIRED
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    Master_Dahark wrote:
    In the TV version of TMWTGG, when he drives away, the girls in the backseat are yelling but in this version they have subtitles! My DVD just has yelling. The subtitles say 'Stop Stop we left him behind, stop the car!!!'

    I've never seen that in any version of the film I've watched. I'll have to look out for that in future - maybe it was added in by the TV Station for consistency?...
  • Master_DaharkMaster_Dahark
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    Nah the way I remember it, it was the same shot of the girls yelling as in the common version- only this time there were subtitles.
    Also, when we first meet the girls and we see them giggling to each other in the backseat (and Bond looks uncomfortable), there were subtitles added there too-- they were saying something like 'he has funny hair, look at his big nose, etc" or something to that effect. That's not on my DVD either but I definitely remember seeing it on TV. Weird how they do that
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    DarthDimi wrote:
    007RogerMoore wrote:
    slyfox wrote:

    An off-moment for me is in OQS when after throwing the guy off the roof in Austria, M accuses Bond of shooting the guy at point blank and Bond doesn't deny this or even question it. Grrrrrrrrrr.

    I have tried to figure this about so many times. I mean, how can Bond so stupid and not say what really happened?

    Actually I'm glad about that. I love the fact that Bond hardly cares.

    Yeah, I thought that he didn't say anything because he was summing things up to himself, like: hmmm, so that's what is being said, that's the direction they are taking with me. Like he knew no matter what he said at that point, MI6 was putting him in the wrong frame. I see him as just thinking, calculating, and moving on. Didn't waste his breath explaining that when the bigger picture was looming.
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