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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    slide_99 wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    The Brosnan films were the ones that questioned his place on the modern world, the Craig films didn’t really go there. It was part of Skyfall, but only a small part. And C obviously tried to make out that his time was done, but we knew he was a baddie from the start.

    Only GE and DAD did, and only in one brief scene in each, both involving M. Neither movie was molded around questioning Bond's place the way the last 3 Craig movies were.

    They didn’t do that. NTTD didn’t do that in any way at all.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited February 2022 Posts: 3,152
    mtm wrote: »
    I honestly can see how it makes sense. They took the basis of the story from Fleming: his Octopussy has Bond going after the murderer of his childhood mentor Oberhauser, and then they decided to combine that with bringing back Blofeld. So they made Blofeld Oberhauser's son who commited patricide... I mean, as a story it makes sense.
    Actually, when you put it like that... Someone should've at least said 'But...but...Goldmember!', though.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    After listening to this track from The Batman soundtrack, I'd love for Michael Giacchino to score Bond 26.

  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,304
    slide_99 wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    @slide_99 ... If you saw NTTD, you'd see it wasn't a satire.

    Actually, none of the Craig films were "deconstructive satire"s.... Can you please define what that means and how it relates to this era?

    I mean that Craig's last 3 movies were meta commentaries on the creation of Bond movies rather than canonical Bond movies. Not a popular opinion, but it's mine.

    If Eon made it, it's canon.
  • Since62Since62
    Posts: 1,630
    Just saw preview for Uncharted...wow ! In terms of where does Bond go after Craig, films like this one, and the MI films, have def. raised the bar in terms of entertaining adventure films with big, extraordinary action sequences...
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,217
    Denbigh wrote: »
    After listening to this track from The Batman soundtrack, I'd love for Michael Giacchino to score Bond 26.


    You beat me to the punch; I thought the exact same thing when I heard this.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    Posts: 5,970
    talos7 wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    After listening to this track from The Batman soundtrack, I'd love for Michael Giacchino to score Bond 26.


    You beat me to the punch; I thought the exact same thing when I heard this.
    Hahaha, it's a great piece of music :)
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,217
    Denbigh wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    After listening to this track from The Batman soundtrack, I'd love for Michael Giacchino to score Bond 26.


    You beat me to the punch; I thought the exact same thing when I heard this.
    Hahaha, it's a great piece of music :)

    It brings to mind Barry's work on "The Specialist"

  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    Posts: 5,970
    talos7 wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    After listening to this track from The Batman soundtrack, I'd love for Michael Giacchino to score Bond 26.


    You beat me to the punch; I thought the exact same thing when I heard this.
    Hahaha, it's a great piece of music :)
    It brings to mind Barry's work on "The Specialist"
    Oooo yes thats a shout!
  • Mathis1Mathis1
    Posts: 7,431
    Since62 wrote: »
    Just saw preview for Uncharted...wow ! In terms of where does Bond go after Craig, films like this one, and the MI films, have def. raised the bar in terms of entertaining adventure films with big, extraordinary action sequences...

    I thought Uncharted was rubbish! Poor characters and story, and the action was distincly lacking in thrills!
  • AstonLotusAstonLotus
    Posts: 1,394
    Since62 wrote: »
    Just saw preview for Uncharted...wow ! In terms of where does Bond go after Craig, films like this one, and the MI films, have def. raised the bar in terms of entertaining adventure films with big, extraordinary action sequences...

    Too bad about the casting.Seriously,did the filmmakers ever even look at the games?

  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,217
    I had a good time with Uncharted, but I never played the games. It was enjoyable, unremarkable fluff.
  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly
    edited February 2022 Posts: 3,327
    Denbigh wrote: »
    After listening to this track from The Batman soundtrack, I'd love for Michael Giacchino to score Bond 26.


    Nice. We all know Michael Giacchino scored The Incredibles after Barry turned it down, and did a great job emulating Barry in that movie. I would be happy if he came on board for the next Bond film.

    If The Batman is a massive hit at the box office, watch this film to see the mood and tone for the next Bond film. This is an absolute certainty. Recent Bond films have followed the trend of Batman as closely as, say the Bourne franchise.

    And from what we understand of this film, its gritty, dark, scary, violent. So all those clamouring for underwater Lotus cars, double-taking pigeons, Tarzan yells and invisible cars - forget it! ;)
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    edited February 2022 Posts: 12,837
    ColonelAdamski wrote: »
    And I also think Slide_99 has some very well considered views on the series, which I think others are a bit too eager to scoff at.

    He’s used most of his posts since joining to moan about a film he hasn’t even seen.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    Posts: 5,970
    jetsetwilly wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    After listening to this track from The Batman soundtrack, I'd love for Michael Giacchino to score Bond 26.

    If The Batman is a massive hit at the box office, watch this film to see the mood and tone for the next Bond film.
    Haha I wouldn’t be surprised or opposed :D
  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
    Posts: 1,101
    Well, according to this article, Phoebe Waller-Bridge is going to be the Screenplay writer for Bond 26.
    https://metro.co.uk/2019/09/27/phoebe-waller-bridge-is-being-lined-up-to-write-bond-26-and-we-are-ready-10817942/
    And according to the article, she said she would sneak in a bit of Feminist humour, so either we're getting a scene where:
    - Bond enters a lesbian bar accidentally.
    - Bond gets a girl but then discovers a little surprise on beetwen her legs.
    - A group of SJW's cancelling Bond because of not using They/He pronouns.
    P.D.: It's a joke what i'm saying, okay? I don't intend to offend anyone.
  • octofingeroctofinger
    Posts: 787
    On the one hand, I think a shake-up is a good idea: new actor, new "continuity" after the Craig era, and new screenwriters to go with. Purvis and Wade have had their innings.

    On the other hand: I can see why Waller-Bridge was such a hot property during the height of Fleabag's success, and getting her for NTTD felt like a coup. But I'm not sure I 'felt' her presence in the NTTD script all that much, and I wonder why it wouldn't be a better idea to move on to someone completely new. I thought part of the appeal was that she and Craig knew one another?

  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    Posts: 3,152
    I wouldn't be remotely worried about Phoebe WB writing Bond 26, but the article says only that she 'could' write it - and 'could' is a long way from 'will', after all. Same with Phoebe 'reportedly' writing it - that's not the same as 'is' writing it. The bit about her 'sneaking in feminist humour' was in relation to NTTD, too - and, as you say, there wasn't all that much in it, right? Nowt to be concerned about, I reckon.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,217
    Venutius wrote: »
    I wouldn't be remotely worried about Phoebe WB writing Bond 26, but the article says only that she 'could' write it - and 'could' is a long way from 'will', after all. Same with Phoebe 'reportedly' writing it - that's not the same as 'is' writing it. The bit about her 'sneaking in feminist humour' was in relation to NTTD, too - and, as you say, there wasn't all that much in it, right? Nowt to be concerned about, I reckon.

    To paraphrase, she has said that Bond has got to continue to be Bond; I would have no concerns about her scripting the next film. In fact I think that her perspective would prevent an overcompensating for modern trends.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    Posts: 13,978
    TheSkyfallen06 wrote: »
    Well, according to this article, Phoebe Waller-Bridge is going to be the Screenplay writer for Bond 26.
    https://metro.co.uk/2019/09/27/phoebe-waller-bridge-is-being-lined-up-to-write-bond-26-and-we-are-ready-10817942/
    And according to the article, she said she would sneak in a bit of Feminist humour, so either we're getting a scene where:
    - Bond enters a lesbian bar accidentally.
    - Bond gets a girl but then discovers a little surprise on beetwen her legs.
    - A group of SJW's cancelling Bond because of not using They/He pronouns.
    P.D.: It's a joke what i'm saying, okay? I don't intend to offend anyone.

    Feminist humour? That’s an oxymoron, isn’t it? Like ‘Feminist Comedian’. ;) And with that, i’ve just cancelled myself. Tata and farewell.
  • BirdlesonBirdleson
    Posts: 2,161
    Can’t argue.
  • Since62Since62
    Posts: 1,630
    TheSkyfallen06 wrote: »
    Well, according to this article, Phoebe Waller-Bridge is going to be the Screenplay writer for Bond 26.
    https://metro.co.uk/2019/09/27/phoebe-waller-bridge-is-being-lined-up-to-write-bond-26-and-we-are-ready-10817942/
    And according to the article, she said she would sneak in a bit of Feminist humour, so either we're getting a scene where:
    - Bond enters a lesbian bar accidentally.
    - Bond gets a girl but then discovers a little surprise on beetwen her legs.
    - A group of SJW's cancelling Bond because of not using They/He pronouns.
    P.D.: It's a joke what i'm saying, okay? I don't intend to offend anyone.

    Hells bells, Bond did alright with Pussy Galore, and her preference was women...
  • Since62Since62
    Posts: 1,630
    MajorDSmythe wrote: »
    TheSkyfallen06 wrote: »
    Well, according to this article, Phoebe Waller-Bridge is going to be the Screenplay writer for Bond 26.
    https://metro.co.uk/2019/09/27/phoebe-waller-bridge-is-being-lined-up-to-write-bond-26-and-we-are-ready-10817942/
    And according to the article, she said she would sneak in a bit of Feminist humour, so either we're getting a scene where:
    - Bond enters a lesbian bar accidentally.
    - Bond gets a girl but then discovers a little surprise on beetwen her legs.
    - A group of SJW's cancelling Bond because of not using They/He pronouns.
    P.D.: It's a joke what i'm saying, okay? I don't intend to offend anyone.

    Feminist humour? That’s an oxymoron, isn’t it? Like ‘Feminist Comedian’. ;) And with that, i’ve just cancelled myself. Tata and farewell.

    Seriously ? Only male humor for you ?
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,509
    I didn't read the article, but wasn't that written in 2019?
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    Posts: 8,188
    ColonelAdamski wrote: »
    Some great posts, yes. And I also think Slide_99 has some very well considered views on the series, which I think others are a bit too eager to scoff at.

    And some NTTD detractors have been a little too eager to jump to his defense.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 13,807
    Yeah NTTD detractors are a protected class here since the release of the film. Suggesting victimhood and mistreatment doesn't ring true.

    I note folks new to the forum that liked the film pretty much didn't stick around. I can understand that.

  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    Posts: 5,970
    peter wrote: »
    I didn't read the article, but wasn't that written in 2019?
    Yeah it was.
  • Since62Since62
    Posts: 1,630
    There was a lot of wisdom in Siskel and Ebert simply using Thumbs Up or Down. Either a film is worth seeing, or not.
  • Benjamin_Weekly69Benjamin_Weekly69 London
    Posts: 727
    jetsetwilly wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    After listening to this track from The Batman soundtrack, I'd love for Michael Giacchino to score Bond 26.


    Nice. We all know Michael Giacchino scored The Incredibles after Barry turned it down, and did a great job emulating Barry in that movie. I would be happy if he came on board for the next Bond film.

    If The Batman is a massive hit at the box office, watch this film to see the mood and tone for the next Bond film. This is an absolute certainty. Recent Bond films have followed the trend of Batman as closely as, say the Bourne franchise.

    And from what we understand of this film, its gritty, dark, scary, violent. So all those clamouring for underwater Lotus cars, double-taking pigeons, Tarzan yells and invisible cars - forget it! ;)

    So the next Bond film is gonna be even darker than the Craig films? The Batman is rated 15A in the UK.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    Posts: 5,970
    Benjamin_Weekly69 wrote: »
    jetsetwilly wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    After listening to this track from The Batman soundtrack, I'd love for Michael Giacchino to score Bond 26.


    Nice. We all know Michael Giacchino scored The Incredibles after Barry turned it down, and did a great job emulating Barry in that movie. I would be happy if he came on board for the next Bond film.

    If The Batman is a massive hit at the box office, watch this film to see the mood and tone for the next Bond film. This is an absolute certainty. Recent Bond films have followed the trend of Batman as closely as, say the Bourne franchise.

    And from what we understand of this film, its gritty, dark, scary, violent. So all those clamouring for underwater Lotus cars, double-taking pigeons, Tarzan yells and invisible cars - forget it! ;)

    So the next Bond film is gonna be even darker than the Craig films? The Batman is rated 15A in the UK.
    I think personally if they do take influence from it, it'll be more the younger, no origin story approach as opposed to the tone. Although never say never I guess.
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