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There is enough characters situations and titles from Fleming that hopefully the next actors full tenure has the feel of Fleming. That honestly what I want
They tend to be:
CR - Of course. Not only is it the start, but it features a terse brutality that the others really don’t. An absolute.
MR - Wins favorite novel, hands-down, in any poll I’ve seen, and deservedly so. It just does everything perfectly. Villain, Bond Girl, action, characterization, thrills, the stakes, the reveals, the world building, M. Perfect.
FRWL - Beautifully crafted and executed. Great cast of well-developed characters. I’d say next to MR, the most thrilling.
DN - Another book that just manages to do everything right. Pure adventure. Also, my favorite Bond Girl.
OHMSS - After several years of being seemingly stuck in a rut, Fleming comes back in top form with an epic novel that changes everything.
YOLT - A completely different tone than any other novel in the collection. Poetic, mystical, and strange. An absolute masterpiece.
FYEO and OP - Everyone loves the short stories. They take us deeper into Bond’s past and inner-self than the novels do. I’d say that both collections are essential.
Personally, I feel that LALD and most of TMWTGG belong on that list, but I would not get a lot of support in that.
If you would like to continue this conversation, we should take it to an existing, relevant thread.
One thing that the films get wrong is that other people, especially villains, seem to know who Bond is and even can order his preferred (at least in the films) cocktail for him. This goes completely against the notion of a secret agent--many of the novels have him infiltrating villains' organizations--not to mention the covers MI6 establishes (Universal Exports, Transworld Consortium).
Don't even get me started on "You just killed James Bond!" from DAF or "Filthy habit" from TND. LOL.
It was interesting to see how they took plot points and Bond's emotion journey from both novels and poured into the film
Sure, it had the best romance banter ever written by Fleming.
Infiltrating enemy organizations...................one of the reasons LTK struck me as so Flemingesque. Don't forget................"Yeah, and I'm Dick Tracy".
That’s an interesting question, and I suspect there’ll be many different answers. Personally speaking the broad Fleming (or more accurately ‘Bondian’) qualities have always been kept intact from page to screen - this womanising British secret agent named James Bond, the cars, villains, even the basic stories.
Where I personally think the film and book versions of Bond differ - and where I wouldn’t mind seeing the films go - is a bit more philosophical. In the films Bond is an extraordinary man. Again, he’s a secret agent - a man who gambles, seduces women, dresses in stylish clothes and travels to exotic locations. Even in the Craig era he’s framed this way. In the novels Bond is fundamentally an ordinary man whose profession gets him into extraordinary situations. He has his vices - women, gambling, cars, alcohol, and even the danger of his job all being there in equal measure - but he’s simply a man at the end of the day. He’s prone to bouts of melancholy, self doubt, and indeed falling in love. His profession is actually rather dirty and involves stuff he hates (killing in cold blood being one of them). Despite this he’s heroic simply because of his bravery and sense of duty. But not because he’s inherently a virtuous person.
How would y'all react if this showed up on the official 007 account?
"James Bond" might be kind of like Keyser Soze, a name that people in the underworld have heard of but aren't sure if he's a real person or not. It's a stretch, but these movies (and even the novels) always had a subtly fantastical element to them.
As for the SF cop, I think he was reacting more to Bond admitting that he was a British agent than saying his name.
I’d know the site got hacked xD
I don't want any long term plans. I'd like to go back to independent entries with the vaguest of tendrils connecting them. And Cavill is a big no for me.
Would rather see Cavill Return as Fleming's other spy, Napoleon Solo, than Bond.
I prefer standalone films. More plausible fiction rather than science fiction.
No more villains building giant facilities in volcanoes, underwater, and in space without attracting attention. Surely someone somewhere said, "Who's renting and buying all this equipment?" Did anyone ever question how all that cement was delivered to the volcano?
One thing I would actually like to see more of in the films is an attempt to ‘world build’ in regards to the villains and, by extension, their lairs. Not saying they can’t be fantastical, but look at how the novel goes into detail about Dr. No’s hide out/why he’s set up this strange hotel/clinic thing. It makes what is otherwise an absurd concept grounded and a bit more sinister.
I mean, I feel NTTD would have benefitted from this in some form:. How exactly was Safin able to set up this elaborate nanobot factory? Who are these men working for him? I remember a user on these forums (apologies as I can’t remember who it was but I love the idea) suggesting an alternative version where Safin either ‘inherited’ SPECTRE’s remaining goons, or possibly even got them to work for him by threatening to kill them or their families with the nanobots. Heck, it might have been interesting if it’d been established that Safin perhaps hijacked one of SPECTRE’s bases/transported his family’s garden plants into it or something. Just little touches like that which give these villains a bit more dimension.
Given that they didn't do the last part, that could still be some kind of finale idea for a future film. There's a puppetmaster general or industrialist or whatever, who MI6 know is on the verge of overtaking a country and plunging it into whatever endtimes scenario you want to think of, but their current leadership doesn't believe them. So Bond is sent out to connect with some good-looking female operative from that nation and they have to neutralize this guy without it being recognized as foreign interference. I'm blanking right now, but has that ever been done as a plot? It feels like every other plot from the 70s and 80s...
Same here. There is still plenty of unused decent material to adapt, like Maibaum did in the 80's.