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And you think that is better than some of the scenes from TSWLM novel? Wow.
Give me a gritty scene about a girl about to get raped and killed in a seedy motel by 2 gangsters, only to be disturbed by Bond knocking on the door, thinking there is a vacancy, any day over the stuff you've just described. I want Bond down-to-earth, not outlandish, childish crap.
And more girls in bikini's like this lady
When Brosnan took over from Dalton it was like "woah" this is a leap forward in terms of production. The way the material was approached was just so much more dynamic and engaging, made LTK look like a TV show. The same thing is true when Craig took over amd they ditched the awkward speed-ramping and visual gimmickery of DAD, and delivered a more organic feeling film with natural ebbs and flows in drama. When it comes time for the next Bond to come in, whenever that is probably 2025, I want to feel like we are stepping into a new era, that Bond has finally caught up to 2020, and we have our hero back with us again.
I must say that moment has never been anything I've been offended by. It's funny how different folks have different levels of what's acceptable.
I would rather them go back to the early Connery era style and have stand alone adventures were the story is related but not dependant upon previous missions.
I think they'll go for a more spy driven aspect to it, because Craig's Bond is an assassin and is more brutal but less like a spy in a sense.
I doubt they'll stray too far from the Daniel Craig run of films because they've been the most successful in the series, so it would seem silly to throw that all away and go for something completely different
No more 50 year old bond girls and no more ott melodrama please babs.
There's no way they'd try that now. People were upset over Bond's shower with Severine and that was in 2012. Also, Bond films are not serious dramas no matter how gritty they make them. Even in LTK, the rape was done off screen and only implied (in the film that is).
That being said, you could still cherry pick elements from the book. Have a woman who's a low-level employee at a big company (not a motel) who's caught up in a major crime. Similar to Natalya in GE. You can give her the same name and include hints to her backstory to establish that she's not just the character in name only, and use the fact that she's been let down by all the men in her life and make her slow to trust Bond.
It could also be interesting to see Bond's actions evaluated by a relatively normal character. All of the women in the Craig films have been part of Bond's world in some way, whether they're agents or have personal ties to the villain, so having an innocent woman witnessing the violence of Bond's world for the first time has potential for an interesting conflict in the story, making Bond more morally ambiguous than he's been in the films. Something the novel tried to do but quite halfheartedly in my opinion.
Maybe I'm talking rubbish but I think that would be more interesting on a thematic level than having something from someone's past coming back to haunt them again.
There are female models in their mid-20s who wish they looked as good as Monica Bellucci did in Spectre.
Quite agree. Monica was great in the 3 seconds she was in the movie. I'm all for them casting older women. Plenty of great looking actresses in their 40s and 50s, and it's more believable than casting a 20-something as a doctor, geologist, or (dare I say it) a nuclear physicist.
Jane Seymour STILL looks great:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2020/02/18/jane-seymour-and-five-kids-make-rare-public-outing/4793261002/
So should Jane Seymour, btw ;)
Nice ideas there, and I think the motel scene with the shootout could work, depending on how it was handled (in 2020, extremely carefully, lol).
She looks astonishing.
I am sorry what version of cotopussy did you watch or read ...
because the short story has NOTHING to do with Clowns and the circus or India etc
Of course it doesn't. Where did I say it does? Bizarre.... :-S
I was referring to the entire auction scene with the fabrege egg, even quoting `the property of a lady'.
When I said OP, I meant the short story from the OP compilation novel - TPOAL. Sorry, maybe I should have been more specific to what I was referring to.
I don't know...Fleming wrote a really interesting Tesco shopping list in 1961 that has great potential to be brought to the silver screen.
Guess we agree to disagree then. Personally I would love a scene with 2 nasty gangsters about to get rough with a girl in a seedy motel, and Bond to appear out of nowhere to rescue the damsel in distress.
Viv Michel as a character could very easily be carved out as the main female lead. She is probably the most interesting female character Fleming wrote, and the only one with a proper back story too. The entire second half of the novel could be used as the basis for a script, the same way TLD short story is used as the basis for the film, or TPOAL for OP, or the short stories from FYEO, etc.
Even if the running time of the scenes lasts no more than 20 minutes - girl working in remote roadside motel, gangsters arrive, get rough with her, girl tries to escape, gets caught, Bond turns up, decides to stay, sleeps with her, shootout in the ground ensues - this would still make for an interesting introduction to a female character, and keeps us die-hard Fleming purists happy too.
The above is not that much different to how Tracy is introduced in the beginning of OHMSS, both in the book and the film, before we eventually discover the gangsters are actually working for her father and are protecting her.
Really? Where can I find it?
Let me guess what was on the list - eggs, more eggs, more eggs, Frank Cooper's marmalade, Pinaud shampoo, Tiptree jam, etc. ;)
They look good for their age but not suited as bond girls.
Does anyone really want to see any more 50 year old bond girls ? I wouldn't think so.
Diversity gone crazy again ?
Too many good actresses get cast aside when they hit a certain age. Given that Barabara claims to be a feminist, and is of a certain age herself, one would think that she might use Bond to help them out. I said in another thread fairly recently, that we don't see Diane Lane onscreen enough these days. Over to you, Barbara....
It's absolutely fine, but it doesn't sound the most compelling or original idea for a scene. I couldn't get excited either way about the prospect of seeing it.
Depends on how its done. Gangsters and Bond have occasionally crossed paths (GF, OHMSS, DAF, LTK, etc.) but if its done in a gripping, tense way it could work. Its the one area where someone like Tarantino could have flexed his creative muscles and shone on a Bond film. He knows how to build up suspense and tension with these kind of scenes.
The slow build up with the hoods in the motel before Viv realises she is in danger could be a nice departure from what audiences traditionally expect from a Bond film. It would stray more into Breaking Bad/Scarface territory, with a very tense build up, making the pay off more sweeter when the audiences breathe a sigh of relief as Bond finally enters the picture.
The novel plays very much this way, and there is no reason why this couldn't be adapted in the same way.
I’ve been saying for a while now that Diane Lane should be in a Bond Film. As a villain, preferably, as she’s wanted to do that for a while now. A modern day Irma Bunt or Rosa Klebb, perhaps?
ok where is Maria Fraudstien?