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I even liked the PTS with Madeleine and Safin in the Frozen Norway scenes, very haunting and natural.
But again, what I'm not a fan of in the Matera scenes was the dating scenes of Bond and Madeleine, it felt very melodramatic (soap opera) with Bond and Madeleine in that car on their way to the hotel with We Have All The Time In The World playing in the background, I still don't buy their relationship, felt very touchy feely but with schmaltz.
Like this is the filmmakers trying to make Bond and Madeleine like Jack and Rose in Titanic or Romeo and Juliet, but failed in comparison.
But, yes the action, once the graveyard exploded, it's where the good things started, until the Cuba Sequence.
Please, if there's something I'd liked the Bond Franchise to reduce, it's the overly dramatic scenes, please and liked OHMSS, but it's not as melodramatic/soap opera like what they've done in NTTD, the romance in OHMSS had the sweetness and fanciness in it, not as overly sentimental as NTTD.
I think since maybe Skyfall (or showing some signs in The World Is Not Enough), where when they've tried to inject some romance or character study into Bond, it always comes off as Soap Operatic, Melodramatic, and schmaltzy.
Casino Royale had the romance, but it's not as over feely, or too sentimental like the recent Craig Entries with Madeleine.
This is a good point. We don't know the tone. We know P&W are involved and they gave us the seriousness of QoS (underrated for its humor) and also the lightness of DAD (where the humor is, um, an acquired taste?).
I love a bit of light and fun Bond, but Cuba didn't work for me mostly because there was nothing much cool in it. I like a bit of thought to go into a sequence like that, but all that really happens is that Bond shoots at a load of people and Paloma kicks them- there's not much in the way of actual wit in it.
I agree that Matera is preferable- beautiful surroundings with a real feel of danger and urgency.
I think Spectre was actually a fairly big change for his Bond and he was suddenly much more comfortable in his own skin, and actually enjoyably playful at times. I thought that hit exactly the right notes.
I guess Spectre were certainly done away a bit too conveniently; I don't think they did anything with Bond's daughter or the Safin/Madeline obsession though- those all worked fine, I thought.
But they were unable to shoot it as written because of the ankle/foot injury that Craig sustained?
Please correct me if I’m misremembering (but I think that would have been pretty incredible to watch).
Sounds a bit similar to the opener of 'Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom'
That sounds very interesting, I'd love to know more about that.
I presume the dance couldn't have lasted very long though? Once the shooting started it would be pretty nuts of Bond to keep dancing! :) I can imagine Steed and Mrs Peel but I'm not sure about Bond!
Do you mind me asking why you keep referring to the film as Bond 25? It does have a title.
I think you're right mate.
Around 1.50 in this video it looks like Daniel and Ana are dancing at the start of the shootout. He spins her around while they're shooting.
No unfortunately not, it cuts to Primo putting the bionic eye in and then cuts back to Bond and Paloma running out the door.
Really?! Still perfectly feasible giving Eon's usual pre, prod and post-prod schedules. In fact I very much thought from the beginning we're heading for a 2025 release. If they're going for an Oct/Nov 2025 release we won't hear anything until early 2024 at the EARLIEST. If they follow their usual modus operandi for a 2025 release expect screenwriting to begin early 2024 - they don't usually publically announce this in the way they did for what was at the time 'Bond 25'. Expect director hired summer 2024 and Bond announced along with start of prinicpal photography late 2024 - it's really too early right now to be saying that a 2025 release is out of the question.
Understand but cannot agree. Craig was so known for his serious Bond that when he had a light moment, a little bit went a loooong way. I've enjoyed all his Bond films. I do expect the films to take a turn, though. Otherwise they'd just be repeating themselves, for one thing.
Teaser for that reality TV show, and all the movies are back on Prime.
Plus a new book.
https://www.007.com/james-bond-destinations-book-released-by-assouline/
Speaking of the future of Bond, there is a minor nitpick I would have. As much as I want Rachel Weisz as a villain, it would also mean EON wouldn’t want to move on from Craig. I’m slightly surprised that she didn’t appear in his last 3 movies.
Maybe they don't want to work together. Some couples don't.
I never really understood the constant praise that the Cuba scenes get. To me this is back to silly, slapstick Bond, straying dangerously close towards Moore/Brozza territory. If we have the next Bond film with this tone throughout, then I will most likely hate it.
I quite liked Paloma as a character and her interplay with Bond, but that's about as far as it goes.
The tone in both Matera and Jamaica was spot on. The next film needs to keep it more in this kind of reality.
We have seen enough drama and seriousness during the latest era, it's time for a change to a lighter tone, without being too silly.
(edited because I was being a dick and it wasn’t really called for)
I’ve probably said stuff like this myself in the past when I wasn’t satisfied with the way things were going but realistically mate, no you won’t call it quits. Just like I was never really going to. I get it, you didn’t like the last couple, you’re hoping for a different direction. It doesn’t mean you have to be this hyperbolic. You’re not going anywhere and neither is the massively successful series we love.
I do agree with you on the Brosnan films though, and I do think they did a better job back then of drawing in younger fans. Definitely something they should be keeping in mind.
Well said.
Very well said.
Thanks for that post, I enjoyed reading it and a lot of what you said resonated with me. I smiled at the bit quoted above, because after watching NTTD the first Bond film I reached for (as a Bondian movie sorbet, so to speak) was Tomorrow Never Dies, which is my favourite Brozza Bond, and a film that is just plain, rattling good fun.
Crikey, I needed it after No Time to Die.
Stunts do more harm than humor.