Where does Bond go after Craig?

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  • Mission Impossible don't have particularly good stories, but they are good at stringing set pieces together to pad it out.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    I always thought that Lucasfilm could have done more with Indiana Jones. Spielberg didn’t have to direct the 4th movie. He said that he was done with the series, after the trilogy. Lucas didn’t have to choose him to direct again. I think that Indy could have been as big as Bond and Star Wars, but Lucasfilm never really took advantage of the character as they could have. I’d like to see Indy become a book series. To show you how much I like the character, a spinoff of a few characters wouldn’t be the worst. I have ideas for Marion, Short Round, Helena and even Mutt. Lucasfilm just cares almost too much about Star Wars.

    As for Bond, I imagine that they are definitely planning something. Either way if Nolan is directing, he probably just has a few ideas at this point. In the meantime, it’s fun to speculate.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    Weren't people having these same concerns back in the early 90s? Before...

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  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Tuxedo wrote: »
    To make maximum profit (and that's what it's all about) the next Bond installment has to match with the audience. All parties involved with Bond 26 will watch carefully the box office trends as well as the zeitgeist and keep an eye on the younger or even next generation of viewers. This will influence who will star as James Bond for the next decade or so and of course who will helm the next film. That's why I don't think the director will be one of those "dinosaurs" named in this thread.

    That's why I add the caveat that only if EON and Amazon are really really adamant about getting a film out in 2025. I don't think Nolan or Cuaron or Villeneuve would jump into a project like Bond with only a few months before filming starts, and I don't think EON would take the risk of them walking away and creating another fiasco like Boyle did. That's why I say IF they are keen to get a film out soon, given its already been 2 years since Bond 25 released, then I think Campbell is likely to be high on the list of choices, because he knows how EON operates and has a track record of working efficiently within that system (same with Mendes).

    EDIT: I checked, Campbell has stated that he is open to returning to do another Bond film.
  • TuxedoTuxedo Europe
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    Tuxedo wrote: »
    To make maximum profit (and that's what it's all about) the next Bond installment has to match with the audience. All parties involved with Bond 26 will watch carefully the box office trends as well as the zeitgeist and keep an eye on the younger or even next generation of viewers. This will influence who will star as James Bond for the next decade or so and of course who will helm the next film. That's why I don't think the director will be one of those "dinosaurs" named in this thread.

    That's why I add the caveat that only if EON and Amazon are really really adamant about getting a film out in 2025. I don't think Nolan or Cuaron or Villeneuve would jump into a project like Bond with only a few months before filming starts, and I don't think EON would take the risk of them walking away and creating another fiasco like Boyle did. That's why I say IF they are keen to get a film out soon, given its already been 2 years since Bond 25 released, then I think Campbell is likely to be high on the list of choices, because he knows how EON operates and has a track record of working efficiently within that system (same with Mendes).

    EDIT: I checked, Campbell has stated that he is open to returning to do another Bond film.

    I understand your point. But I don't think they are in any hurry or keen to release a film out in 2025. I think first of all they want to set the James Bond franchise ready for its next chapter (contemporary interpretation of the James Bond character, new actor for the iconic role) over the next 10 - 15 years. This will make sure to keep the franchise alive. Next focus will be on getting as much profit as possible out of each film. The reboot is crucial so they will take all the time they need. As soon as they are allowed to go on after the strike.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    Doesn't saying publicly that you want to do Bond automatically put you on EON's 'no' list?
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    I think Martin Campbell is like Anthony Horowitz of directors in more than one way. Above all, he wants to go out on a high note.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    I think Martin Campbell is like Anthony Horowitz of directors in more than one way. Above all, he wants to go out on a high note.

    Didn't he do that with Casino Royale?
    I'd be more than happy to see Martin Campbell return for a third Bond film, but considering he's in his 80th year is it likely?
  • And Michael Caine has just retired.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Benny wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    I think Martin Campbell is like Anthony Horowitz of directors in more than one way. Above all, he wants to go out on a high note.

    Didn't he do that with Casino Royale?
    I'd be more than happy to see Martin Campbell return for a third Bond film, but considering he's in his 80th year is it likely?

    That’s what I mean with Campbell and CR. It was a Bond origin story, like Horowitz and FAAD. I think the series could do with a different director than someone from DC’s run.
  • edited October 2023 Posts: 579
    Mission:Impossible-Dead Reckoning flopped. We need Nolan more than ever.
    Absolutely. M:I 7 underperforming despite it being a very well received movie + a couple of weeks later Oppenheimer grossing nearly a billion dollars definitely make EON hiring Nolan more likely.
    I don't think Nolan or Cuaron or Villeneuve would jump into a project like Bond with only a few months before filming starts,
    1. Nolan works faster than EON does.
    2. He would not need to jump into Bond 26 only a few months before filming starts for them to release it in 2025. Nolan could jump in in the next few months, filming could start in late 2024 and the premiere could be held in late 2025.

    So if EON were absolutely adamant that the film needed to be released in late 2025, that would be an argument for Nolan, not against him.
  • edited October 2023 Posts: 579
    Daily Mail Exclusive: "Aaron Taylor-Johnson IS hot favorite to be next James Bond as movie insiders say he's 'the one to beat' - while Oppenheimer director Christopher Nolan remains 'extremely interested' in taking the helm"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12624979/Aaron-Taylor-Johnson-hot-favorite-James-Bond.html

    "Now, an insider has revealed the British actor, 33, is extremely close to landing the role, with Oppenheimer director Christopher Nolan, 53, looking likely to helm the next film in the franchise.

    The insider said: ‘Aaron Taylor-Johnson is currently the hot favorite to step into the iconic role, he’s the first choice for Barbara Broccoli – he is the one to beat.’

    They added of Nolan: ‘He is extremely interested in doing something very different with the franchise. If he can get his way with producers, then he is all for it.’"
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    I love the Daily Mail.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Craig fans fighting the reality of someone else taking over from their man. 8->
  • peterpeter Toronto
    edited October 2023 Posts: 9,509
    Craig fans fighting the reality of someone else taking over from their man. 8->

    Please try again, @Mendes4Lyfe .

    If ATJ is the guy who almost has the role, during an actor’s strike, when there have been no auditions, then I’ll enjoy eating my hat, with a dollop of ketchup.

    The next 007 will not be cast by coronation.

    EDIT: @Mendes4Lyfe :

    “Over a dataset of 1,000 articles, the Daily Mail scored an average Factual Grade of 39.7%. This is well below the average of 61.9% for all 240 news sources that we analyzed. This places the site in the 1st percentile of our dataset — it scored the third-lowest of any news source.”
  • edited October 2023 Posts: 579
    peter wrote: »
    If ATJ is the guy who almost has the role, during an actor’s strike, when there have been no auditions, then I’ll enjoy eating my hat, with a dollop of ketchup.

    Oh, come on! You know that the rumour is that he auditioned before the end of November 2022, 8 *months* before the SAG strike started! https://www.thesun.co.uk/tv/20563304/aaron-taylor-johnson-james-bond/

    Obviously, this rumour can be very easily wrong, but as long as we are discussion ATJ, the argument cannot be that "it's impossible for him to be the frontrunner because there is an ongoing SAG strike".

    As for the Daily Mail's credibility, I thoght we learned during the Baz Bamigboye years that when it comes to movie news, they should not be immediately dismissed.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    peter wrote: »
    If ATJ is the guy who almost has the role, during an actor’s strike, when there have been no auditions, then I’ll enjoy eating my hat, with a dollop of ketchup.

    Oh, come on! You know that the rumour is that he auditioned before the end of November 2022, 8 *months* before the SAG strike started! https://www.thesun.co.uk/tv/20563304/aaron-taylor-johnson-james-bond/

    Obviously, this rumour can be very easily wrong, but as long as we are discussion ATJ, the argument cannot be that "it's impossible for him to be the frontrunner because there is an ongoing SAG strike".

    As for the Daily Mail's credibility, I thoght we learned during the Baz Bamigboye years that when it comes to movie news, they should not be immediately dismissed.

    He didn’t audition before the SAG strike. He didn’t shoot the gun barrel, @Colonel_Venus .

    I’m not saying he won’t be Bond, but he has to audition first.

    And the Daily Mail no longer has Baz; he went to a reputable media outlet in Deadline Hollywood, if I’m not mistaken (and with him went all “insider “ scoops).
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited October 2023 Posts: 8,395
    peter wrote: »
    If ATJ is the guy who almost has the role, during an actor’s strike, when there have been no auditions, then I’ll enjoy eating my hat, with a dollop of ketchup.

    Oh, come on! You know that the rumour is that he auditioned before the end of November 2022, 8 *months* before the SAG strike started! https://www.thesun.co.uk/tv/20563304/aaron-taylor-johnson-james-bond/

    Obviously, this rumour can be very easily wrong, but as long as we are discussion ATJ, the argument cannot be that "it's impossible for him to be the frontrunner because there is an ongoing SAG strike".

    As for the Daily Mail's credibility, I thoght we learned during the Baz Bamigboye years that when it comes to movie news, they should not be immediately dismissed.

    It's anything to put off the day we have someone besides Daniel Craig in the tux, I fear... :-SS

    On a serious note, ATJ still being linked to the part is great news for nolans chances, as they have worked together and ATJ is probably on his list of choices.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    The Daily Mail is not a credible source, afaic. I’ve nothing against ATJ, but I really don’t believe the rumours that he’s the top candidate. I think it will be Sope because he’s very much a black Daniel Craig, and I think that’s what BB will be looking for.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Sope and Mark Mylod + David Arnold returns
  • edited October 2023 Posts: 579
    Of course the Daily Mail does not have Baz anymore... My point is that it took people here years to realize that Daily Mail articles written by Baz were credible. (I remember when Baz's articles were completely dismissed here just because they were published by the Daily Mail.) It is entirely possible that Eve Buckland (the writer of this new article) will turn out to be just as credible.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited October 2023 Posts: 5,970
    See, as much as I'd personally be more than happy with his casting, I agree with @peter that he didn’t audition and didn’t shoot the gunbarrel, but do feel there might be some truth to the idea that he has met with Barbara for a dinner or something to maybe gather whether he'd be interested. No more than that - if anything.

    I think what we have learnt though, just from the rumours being spread, is that most of the general audience would be happy with it.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    edited October 2023 Posts: 9,509
    peter wrote: »
    If ATJ is the guy who almost has the role, during an actor’s strike, when there have been no auditions, then I’ll enjoy eating my hat, with a dollop of ketchup.

    Oh, come on! You know that the rumour is that he auditioned before the end of November 2022, 8 *months* before the SAG strike started! https://www.thesun.co.uk/tv/20563304/aaron-taylor-johnson-james-bond/

    Obviously, this rumour can be very easily wrong, but as long as we are discussion ATJ, the argument cannot be that "it's impossible for him to be the frontrunner because there is an ongoing SAG strike".

    As for the Daily Mail's credibility, I thoght we learned during the Baz Bamigboye years that when it comes to movie news, they should not be immediately dismissed.

    It's anything to put off the day we have someone besides Daniel Craig in the tux, I fear... :-SS

    On a serious note, ATJ still being linked to the part is great news for nolans chances, as they have worked together and ATJ is probably on his list of choices.

    Your presumptions @Mendes4Lyfe are way off the mark.

    You should move on from your obsession with Daniel Craig.

    As I’ve asked you before: please read others posts three times before commenting.

    My reply wasn’t about Craig, but about another “inside” source of the Daily Mail.

    ATJ hasn’t auditioned.

    He didn’t shoot the gun barrel.

    The Daily Mail isn’t credible.

    And I’m not saying ATJ won’t get the role (I personally don’t think he will), but he has to audition first.

    How you pull this to make any comparison to Daniel Craig, is silly and grasping at straws (because I’m not saying something that fits with the narrative you want to hear ).
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    My bet is Tom Bateman. He flies under the radar and I think it's a good sign.
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Being chauffeured by Tibbett
    edited October 2023 Posts: 679
    It's annoying when people know what they're talking about isn't it @Mendes4Lyfe?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Daily Mail Exclusive: "Aaron Taylor-Johnson IS hot favorite to be next James Bond as movie insiders say he's 'the one to beat' - while Oppenheimer director Christopher Nolan remains 'extremely interested' in taking the helm"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12624979/Aaron-Taylor-Johnson-hot-favorite-James-Bond.html

    "Now, an insider has revealed the British actor, 33, is extremely close to landing the role, with Oppenheimer director Christopher Nolan, 53, looking likely to helm the next film in the franchise.

    The insider said: ‘Aaron Taylor-Johnson is currently the hot favorite to step into the iconic role, he’s the first choice for Barbara Broccoli – he is the one to beat.’

    They added of Nolan: ‘He is extremely interested in doing something very different with the franchise. If he can get his way with producers, then he is all for it.’"

    Anyone remember when the gunbarrel featuring ATJ was set to be unveiled in March?
    Of course the Daily Mail does not have Baz anymore... My point is that it took people here years to realize that Daily Mail articles written by Baz were credible. (I remember when Baz's articles were completely dismissed here just because they were published by the Daily Mail.) It is entirely possible that Eve Buckland (the writer of this new article) will turn out to be just as credible.

    I’m old enough to remember Baz’s scoops about Pierce’s second film being called ‘Aquator’ and/or (believe it or not) ‘Avatar’.
  • Posts: 16,153
    mtm wrote: »
    Daily Mail Exclusive: "Aaron Taylor-Johnson IS hot favorite to be next James Bond as movie insiders say he's 'the one to beat' - while Oppenheimer director Christopher Nolan remains 'extremely interested' in taking the helm"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12624979/Aaron-Taylor-Johnson-hot-favorite-James-Bond.html

    "Now, an insider has revealed the British actor, 33, is extremely close to landing the role, with Oppenheimer director Christopher Nolan, 53, looking likely to helm the next film in the franchise.

    The insider said: ‘Aaron Taylor-Johnson is currently the hot favorite to step into the iconic role, he’s the first choice for Barbara Broccoli – he is the one to beat.’

    They added of Nolan: ‘He is extremely interested in doing something very different with the franchise. If he can get his way with producers, then he is all for it.’"

    Anyone remember when the gunbarrel featuring ATJ was set to be unveiled in March?
    Of course the Daily Mail does not have Baz anymore... My point is that it took people here years to realize that Daily Mail articles written by Baz were credible. (I remember when Baz's articles were completely dismissed here just because they were published by the Daily Mail.) It is entirely possible that Eve Buckland (the writer of this new article) will turn out to be just as credible.

    I’m old enough to remember Baz’s scoops about Pierce’s second film being called ‘Aquator’ and/or (believe it or not) ‘Avatar’.

    I remember Aquator and Avatar being rumored titles. I also remember Beyond the Ice for DAD.
  • Posts: 3,327
    This is getting boring by the press. No one knows who is in the running. Maybe Barbara had a dinner with ATJ, maybe she rang him and had a chat, but that's probably as far as it goes.

    I doubt one single actor has even auditioned yet, unless this has all been going on in absolute top secret while the strike was on, in which case there would have been many that had auditioned, not just one actor.

    Not buying this crap from the Daily Fail.
  • edited October 2023 Posts: 2,264
    I’m not buying a bit of this either, and I don’t buy ATJ as a possible Bond personally. Seems odd his name keeps being brought up by outlets every so often.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    I’m not buying a bit of this either, and I don’t buy ATJ as a possible Bond personally. Seems odd his name keeps being brought up by outlets every so often.

    Well they have (the press) always loved to speculate who the next Bond will be. ATJ is a plausible candidate, so they've run with him. Doesn't matter that their story is false, obviously their source got it wrong at the end of the day.
    To quote Bond in TND, 'they'll print anything these days,'
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