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That's Lazenby's fault.
I think the difference is simply a lack of imagination and ingenuity.
And you watch these films.... because??
Maybe another series would suit your elite tastes?
Not to worry, I'm sure EON can step their game up with the next film, we're just at a point where a fresh start is very much overdue. ;)
I wasn't exactly a Brosnan fan. I went to everyone in the cinema, and I always walked out really disappointed.
But never did I once think that this is where Bond stops. I just knew it wasn't my cup of tea, and a new era would come along which would be hopefully more in tune with what I needed from Bond.
That's why I've never understood the doom and gloom I have read on this site.
The sun will rise tomorrow...
Yes. And it will shine very brightly the day Chris Nolan is annouced to write and direct Bond 26. :)
That’s where I’m at really. Love CR, enjoy SF, but I wish I could’ve enjoyed more of the Craig era. But like you say, the sun always rises!
At this stage @Colonel_Venus is just baiting every time they mention Nolan. It's got to the point where they're basically trolling.
Although, what I will say is that the thing I wonder about with Nolan is whether he'd be up for working alongside EON. I'm sure he has great respect for Barbara and Michael, as he should, but directing Bond I think would be a job unlike any he's had before in terms of the amount of freedom he gets, not to say that EON wouldn't give him as much as possible (like I said above), but this is their franchise and something they've been a part for longer than he's been making movies, so they're not gonna fully hand over the reins and nor should they.
I find myself wondering about that too, but from the way Nolan has discussed his love for the series, I don’t find it too difficult to imagine that perhaps him and EON would hit it off more than fans would believe, and perhaps his vision for the future (assuming it’s not a period piece) could align somewhat with Barbara and Michael’s. Let’s not forget Nolan somehow was able to convince WB to do a semi realistic take on Batman during a time when that film franchise was dead and buried, and amazingly he was given so much creative control from a studio that had, and continues to interfere in directors visions for some films. The Bond series luckily has never had this share of issues I think, so I can’t imagine EON being worse to work for than WB.
It certainly worked for an older Bond. But beyond CR (where as I said he just seemed to be arrogant/prone to sleeping around with married women) Craig’s Bond wasn’t an outright misogynist but a man who used women for his own means, whether sexual or for the purposes of the mission. This was adequately scrutinised in the films themselves.
The newer films could default to Bond ‘falling in love’ with these women/his affairs more often than previously. More akin to the novels. But ultimately he’ll still be a womaniser and will still have an ofd relationship with women. It just friends upon how these Bond girls are depicted.
I stand corrected.
Oh, I agree with you @peter and I was the same went to every one of Brossas, and came out in despair! My problem though was that I was convinced Brossa was going to be around for at least another 2 or 3 films, and that Sun didnt seem to be rising anytime soon! My elation when I heard he was out was massive, and then when I saw the trailer fot CR!!.. . Zippeedeedoohdah, Zippeeday, my oh my what a won........ Ok, I'll stop there!
I tend to believe that work has been done, just nothing that they care to disclose.
I'd take that to mean that Nolan wants a guarantee that EON would give him that control and not take it back or pressure him to change course (like they did with Boyle?) once they'd started work. Otherwise, he'd rather not do it at all. That does seem to pretty much in line with what I've read about Nolan, so he's probably not bluffing. Bearing in mind that Mendes said that BB and MGW sat watching him film and passed him suggestion notes between takes, are EON likely to hand over that level of control to Nolan? Especially with all that's riding on a new Bond's first outing?
They have been all in on the series and the game. That’s their brand and they surprisingly (to me), have been very busy shepherding these two projects. Unfortunately, these two things have little interest to me.
I think more was cooking before the strikes, than post.
I have to imagine they’re back to script development, but I do have a feeling, and it’s mine, that they’re back at square one. That’s all I’ve really mined from what my one main source of info has fed me (bread crumbs).
I have to be clear, I’ve never felt so unsure of where they’re at. Usually I have a clearer sense, but not this time.
My hunch is, if they were moving out of script development, I think I would have been told.
So that’s the best I can guess: they haven’t moved out of script development as far I know. And I do believe a little more action was gearing up in late ‘22. But the strikes did have an effect (and the actors haven’t climbed out of their own work stoppage). I can’t stress enough how bad these strikes have hurt the entire industry, especially so soon after Covid.
Unfortunately there will be lasting scars and casualties.
It is worth saying that even Nolan has worked under a similar system with his Batman films - he did have to work with studios/third party producers with specific ideas for these films, and wasn’t just given the freedom to do anything he wanted (he was given a good deal of creative freedom, but no director on such a film is given carte blanche).
I think no matter the director we’ll get much the same approach as EON have done in the past - they come up with the direction, ideas, what they want to explore, and work with their writers/directors to realise this creative concept. If their way of working isn’t in line with these individuals it won’t matter whether it’s Nolan or Danny Boyle, they simply won’t work with them. We won’t get any pitches from directors, and even if a director is granted a good deal of freedom/input I don’t see them deviating from this broad format.
You’re absolutely right @talos7 … the damage will be long lasting, and my jaw dropped when I heard one of the biggest and one of the first casualties of the strikes, was Metropolis. I mean this series was pushing, full steam ahead! They had already sunk a small fortune into development and preproduction:
https://deadline.com/2023/10/sam-esmail-comment-metropolis-tv-seres-canceled-apple-ucp-strike-1235583713/
I think a lot of people were surprised. Honestly though, Lucasfilm hasn’t been looked at positively by its “fans” lately. It’s a shame, I thought DOD was fun, and that’s the main thing I wanted out of it. People are upset at Kathleen Kennedy for one reason, or another, it seems. The main two problems that people had with Indy 5 were an 80 year old action hero, and Phoebe Waller-Bridge pushing her unique humor and being the real hero of the film. I honestly, think that Indiana Jones could have been Lucasfilm’s answer to James Bond. There’s always an adventure and artifact that Indy could go after. George Lucas blew it honestly, but forcing everyone that aliens had to be in Indy 4. Or have someone other than Spielberg direct. In the 90s, for sure. But that’s what life is at times from a CEO and their company’s business practices.
As for Bond and EON, they aren’t as badly controlled as Lucasfilm has been. Even EON knows that James Bond will be relevant in the modern world. They’ll always bring him back. And with the many problems in the world today with wars and egos, we need him now more than ever.
If Dial of Destiny had been made in 2008 instead of Crystal Skull and they were able to do things more practically with Ford doing more stunts himself, then I don't think it would be far off the original trilogy, at least for me.
Such a weird take on it. That film is entirely about Indiana Jones; no-one else is the hero.
Not even sure what 'pushing her unique humour' means - I don't know how an actor 'pushes' their performance onto people more than others just act; I think a lot of the people who thought that had decided it would be like that before they saw it, if they even did.
You won't like Temple of Doom then, because he's barely in it! :)
I probably would have felt that way about older films/TV back in the day, where romance between men and women was a prerequisite in writing because the men have to be desired by every woman to fulfill some sort of silly male fantasy. The idea of featuring lead men and women in platonic friendships was an extremely rare thing.
James Bond is a silly male fantasy!
Wrong forum, man.
Putting 13 year olds in the same demographic bucket as 24 year olds seems like bad methods to me...