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But I thought Barbara Broccoli and MGW were put on this earth, not as film producers, but solely as James Bond film producers. They’re not allowed to explore any other subjects that may interest them as storytellers!!!!! They should be giving me a Bond film every two years!!!!!!!
I have to admit, that’s rather well done.
But, fair or not, Bond fans can be as critical and demanding as they choose.
It seems like there is a shift happening across the whole industry right now. Marvel is losing steam, DC is rebooting, a lot of legacy franchises are ending like Indiana Jones, Mission Impossible, Fast & Furious, Halloween, Star Wars, etc and at the same time original movies are exploding at the boxoffice. Maybe EON are partly holding back development to observe what exactly the outcomes are of this transition, and to make sure they can position themselves to be on the correct side. I will have my gripes, but when it comes to these gaps between actors, EON have the knack of judging it right and coming out on top.
@Mendes4Lyfe , I’ve disagreed with you many times, and not to get under your skin; I genuinely disagree with a lot of your posts, as you do mine.
But this is a very realistic observation and I have to agree with you, absolutely. If Bourne pointed the way before, what film is out there right now that would indicate to EoN and others what audiences want? Is it Oppenheimer, or Barbie? Well, the two films are of different genres and are outliers and not formulas.
The international box office is all over the map. Top Gun: Maverick destroyed all competition; M:I flops. John Wick 4 puttered; Mario Bros makes over a billion… The industry is in a really turbulent time. Add strikes, a pandemic, and yes wars and a recession (creates inflation, people are losing jobs; most become much more careful where and how they spend their money). Good post @Mendes4Lyfe …
https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/1831288/James-Bond-producer-Gregg-Wilson-next-Bond-007-Road-to-a-Million
Correct.
People should also look at the Bond Experience video posted.
He takes a level-headed approach to this, as Mendes4lyfe did a few posts back.
Also, to think that zilch is being done?…. I mean, decide for yourselves. I take it more as: in the very very very rough assembly stage, nothing to show anyone outside of HQ.
I still think, or maybe hope, that there is a great deal of plausible deniability in the use of the word “actively “.
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That would be understandable, but why don't they refer to the strikes directly? The way they communicate it, it looks more like they haven't given any thought about the next film yet, and that's hard to believe.
But in all honesty… I just can’t be impatient about this. I don’t really care how long it takes for them to get to it, all that matters is that I get a Bond film down the line. Whether it’s released on 2025 or 2027 makes no significant difference because I know the year it comes out I’ll be excited about the prospect of an upcoming Bond film all the same.
The only thing that could possibly dampen whatever enthusiasm I may have is Henry Cavill being cast.
It’s a new world
With new enemies
And new threats
But you can still depend
On one man
That's actually true @peter it's not as if they can just say "make the next one about karate" and move right on ahead. Wherever they take the franchise, it's going to be a much more involved process, and one misstep can be disastrous in this climate as we saw this summer. The rulebook has essentially been thrown out, and personally I never thought I'd see Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones flopping at the boxoffice, even without speilberg at the helm. I think perhaps EON have recognised that even Bond cannot expect to sail to boxoffice glory with ease in this environment, and they're very carefully watching things play out until that very obvious trend starts building momentum that they can latch onto and take advantage.
No, “active” development really isn’t a technical term. It’s usually “we’re in development “ (that’s not to say ppl don’t throw in the word “active” but it’s not really specific to the development period)… and you’re right @ImpertinentGoon , I don’t believe for one milli-second that zilch is happening. But I do believe that where they were before the strikes, is where they are now, and any movement there was pre-strikes, I believe there’s been some u-turn back to square one.
What an anticlimactic ending.
I think Mark is hinting at some inside knowledge.
That’s what I’m thinking too.
You are talking about a company that only 2 *days* before the official announcement of Daniel Craig stated that the decision on James Bond #6 had not been made yet.
https://www.mi6-hq.com/news/index.php?itemid=2889
Often when EON has an option to say "no comment", they instead lie. Then again, I am not blaming them. These are white lies, so it's not a big deal.
I think there's a truth that lies between zero is happening on B26, and ATJ is Bond, was auditioned, shot the gun barrel and Nolan will be directing him in a two picture deal, which will be period pieces.
The truth is closer to nothing is happening, only for me to be told, "not much is happening", but the powers that be are talking and hammering out something (I'd assume a direction).
That's why I think that whatever movement was happening before the strikes, has u-turned back to square one.
And I do believe that one of the reasons why there was a U-turn or a "pause", is partly because (I can't believe I am writing this, lol), of what @Mendes4Lyfe commented on today: EoN, like any company, does look at box office trends to assess what global audiences may want to see in an action-thriller.
But right now, this industry walked out of a three year global pandemic into two straight strikes (one still to be resolved (I'm hoping by the end of the weekend, or early in the week)), and there are no real proper trends for EoN to measure themselves up to in the action-thriller genre right now.
This is no time for EoN just to make any old James Bond flick. They need a firm understanding over which direction they move in to better assure, not just a "hit" film, but to launch an entirely new era.
Once again, The Bond Experience did an excellent video breaking down what goes into these films (I'd just add these same elements, to one degree or another, go into all film projects), and everyone should also heed David's advice....
On this thread posters have speculated where Bond might be headed. Often bold speculations, quickly followed up by 'level headed' posters that Bond won't change much at all.
If Bond 26 won't be this, that, or the other, in fact changed very little, where is the reinvention? What is being reinvented? What will set this Bond and Bond films apart from all that came before? What could we see that we haven't seen before?