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And yet the first and best Bond did go on to win an Oscar. It remains to be seen if PB and DC can pull that off.
Even TD still has a chance of a Oscar. He’s still working!
Doesn’t matter if PB and DC can pull that off, I’m sure there are plenty of people who can thoroughly explain why they may prefer another actor as Bond over Connery, regardless of that Oscar.
Besides, it’s not like Connery’s range as an actor was incredibly wide. If anything Craig has proven to be a more versatile actor than Connery, and it’s not like he won an Oscar.
And then the 2010s came along and he seemed resigned to doing bad DTV action thrillers and rom-coms.
https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2024/1/5/b7vna3tb48kt0gq101eqetelyvn8ot
And the video in which this is apparently mentioned (don't know exactly when): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98FALdHiRW8
If this turns out to be true, I will be very furious.
At the end of the day though we simply don't know if a) this is true (it may or may not be) and b) why their talks broke down if it is true (it may well have been due to a number of other reasons). There's of course the possibility that Nolan simply wasn't interested and perhaps wants to do something else for his next film that is more creatively fulfilling for him.
But still, I maintain what I've always thought. I don't think he'll ever do a Bond film, and I doubt EON ever seriously considered him past a certain point. I must admit I didn't particularly like the way he handled questions about Bond during interviews (the stuff about wanting an unprecedented level of involvement/creative input, which seems to me an odd thing to demand publicly before you've even gone into talks for your new job).
But, for better or worse, she always goes by the beat of her own drum.
I haven't had any admiration for the Bond producers for a decade. I am a Bond fan, not a Bond producer fan. And they have not served Bond the best since the release of Skyfall a decade ago, to say the least.
Oh.
None of the Bond actors, except Lazenby, have been complete unknowns. Oddly, Brosnan was closest — Remington Steele wasn’t exactly a big thing in the UK, in fact I only saw it after they started running it *after* he got the Bond gig. And the UK is absolutely the Bond home market. In the eighties onward it even exists as this sort of odd TV/Cinema hybrid, so often is it run regularly as essentially a series on our TV (at one point there was a 007 channel on Sky where they ran in a loop) and of course the Seventies and Eighties were filled with Brit TV actors. NSNA again looks more like an ITV show than a Bond movie even. XD
I think for the sake of commitment, expediency, and frankly — with shades of Brosnan and Dalton both — ‘man born to be Bond’ levels of being actually well suited to the actual role, rather than shaping it to him, Cavill is by far the best choice. Argyle won’t affect that (spoiler that’s obvious from the trailer, he is *not* a ‘real’ character in the film, he’s a meta character) or UNCLE (which was a very good film) any more than Brosnan going up against Michael Caine did, or Roger Moore basically being a go-to action hero for most of his career did. The influence of Superman is also overstated — people tend to see the character, not the actor, and the only actors to become truly synonymous with him were both called Reeve. Given the relative success or lack thereof as well, it would be like not giving Affleck Batman, because he had already been Daredevil. (And Jack Ryan, but there’s more Ryan’s than Bonds by now I think.)
Man can act well enough, looks the part well enough, and ninety percent plus of all the other names touted just *look* weak. Cartoonish masculinity at best. Cavill looks just normal enough, and just ‘model’ enough. Bond is cast for the het-women in the audience. Ever has it been thus. Cavill brings that, in my limited estimation, much more than any of the possibilities often brought up, other than perhaps Aidan Turner.
I’d wager that neither will get the role, but Aidan Turner would bring dimensions to the role that Cavill could only dream of. One is just a better actor than the other, IMO.
I’d wager a few other things about this latest Nolan news as well. As in: it stinks to high heaven of false plants to the media, specifically to this Reel World source, 🤷♂️…
There are plenty of great actors who will never win an Oscar and plenty of average to bad ones have one ( Kim Basinger won an Oscar for gods sake! ).
As someone said earlier here,several actors who have played Bond have already been fairly well known before they got the role ( Moore,Brosnan,Craig) so I don’t see Cavills fame as an obstacle.
The only problem with casting Cavill is if they drag their feet getting new movies out like Babs and Michael have done for the past decade.If they manage a two to three year turnaround for new Bonds, I can see them getting about four movies out if Cavill but sadly,I don’t see that happening.
Yeah there's not enough there to make me believe it's true.
Cavill is Brosnan/Moore lite, just as Turner is Connery lite.
Bond can do better than either of these actors.
@peter You don't think, even if informally to gauge interest, that they have not reached out to various directors who may be on their wish list. Availability has to be a consideration; if there is a director in whom they have interest, securing their services before they commit to another production would seem vital, even if filming is a couple of years off.
While no where near ready to begin production, or even formal pre-production, based on how they have operated in the past, I think a great deal more has been done than is being disclosed to the public. Minimally, writers, directors and even actors have been contacted and deep within EoN the direction for the next era brainstormed and charted.
And I’m happy to be wrong on this, but I think they’re on a hamster wheel when it comes to the story they want to tell.
I firmly believe that at this point there’s no story.
Happy to be proved wrong on this, but I think we will hear more come spring— that’s my hope. Thats the ETA I’m expecting and until May or June, and if no news comes, I’ll be upset myself, 😂.
But, it’s all story, story, story at the moment… is my assumption. And beyond that…?
But presumably she's smart enough to dismiss any bad suggestions from Nolan?
I often wonder how many people here know that Ian Fleming was involved with the creation of The Man from U.N.C.L.E. and came up with name Napoleon Solo.