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The lesson of SP is: if a director is not enthusiastic about directing the next Bond film, don't force it. Mendes wasn't enthusiastic about directing another Bond film after Skyfall but EON managed to convince him. Likely with money. They should have just moved on once they realized that Mendes did not really want to do it.
Cameron, in many ways, is the American precursor to Nolan. A visionary who demands complete creative control, sometimes to his detriment. And a better director than a writer.
Where they differ is that Cameron has crass humor, while Nolan is humorless.
Neither one should get anywhere near Bond.
People who are unsure how films come together, and Bond pictures in particular, should give this video a listen through to the end.
Thanks again for posting the link. I loved every second of his meditation. So good.
There’s that, but I think there was also a genuine effort to make a more traditional Bond film after SF subverted the tropes. Problem ultimately came down to the script never clicking.
I have no problem with someone disliking Nolan but how can you say he should not be anywhere near Bond? If God almighty himself engineered the perfect Bond director, they would be pretty much like Nolan. British, is a huge Bond fan, has successfully directed several mega budget action/adventure movies, is highy acclaimed and at the hight of his powers + he is available. What more could anyone possibly want?
I really feel like I am living in Bizarro World anytime a Bond fan is vehemently against the idea of Nolan directing Bond.
Yeah, it seems like this is the one which had more interference than most, and the story just never settled into place as a result. Mendes is on record as saying the last act fell apart on him, and I don't know what you do about that. It's not actually incoherent, they still made a film which makes sense, so that's something.
And I think it does feel more like a trad Bond movie too, but Mendes also obviously wanted to be telling a story which was a worthy follow-up to SF otherwise there really would be no point in doing it, and I think they didn't get too far off it: they just didn't manage to make it come together in time. Plus Craig basically broke his leg making it and is in a cast for a lot of it: it seems a bit of a nightmare shoot (and no wonder you got the 'wrist slashing' joke when asked if he wanted to make another right away).
Someone who can do a sexy, warm film; someone who can do good jokes; someone with a sense of fun.
That title has been earned twice by Martin Campbell 😂
I'll take a third Bond film directed by Campbell over Nolan any day.
mmm... Guy Ritchie? ;)
Sure, they can hire another TV director.
Yeah but I think that even the haters of NTTD on here will say that Fukunaga co-wrote, directed an, with his editing team, cut an entertaining film.
The last time Nolan made an entertaining film was (maybe) THE DARK KNIGHT (but another of my opinions is that was because of Heath Ledger: he took off as the role of Joker, and elevated a plodding ho-hum flick). Each film since 2008 has grown longer (minus Dunkirk, which was short on time, but still strained some of my attention); each of his movies is more tedious and less disciplined (he meanders because he doesn’t know how to self-edit, his scripts all feel like second drafts. He writes ideas, not films);
His last attempt at a straight up thriller was Tenet, and that was a good looking disaster, from start to finish.
The best part of Oppenheimer, for me, was the final act; at least it had a point. But how does someone take a hell raising eccentric like Oppenheimer and make him bland? And he can’t write or direct women. I love Blunt, but, she was a miserable caricature in this film. One dimensional, as most of Nolan’s characters are, but especially the women— which would be a huge problem in a Bond film. If Nolan directed Paloma, kiss good bye the energy of Ana and that sequence….
So…
I also recently re-watched TD S1 @talos7 … you’re right: Fukunaga had the chops, and assembled brilliant production teams, that I would have loved to have seen him launch a new actor into the new era.
Hmmmm. Yeah, I see what you mean and know about that in Nolan. I also understand why some fans don't connect with him. But as a fan of his, my eyes are blind to those flaws of his. Also, if he doesn't get to make a Bond film, it's fine. He would still be Nolan to me and I can hardly wait for his next film :)
I used to be a fan too, @SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ , when he did INSOMNIA and BB, but those films were more producer-driven and they had a short leash on him— plus his brother was assisting with script duties.
But the leash is long gone, and I can’t see Nolan returning to producer-heavy films…
+1!
Nolan needs his brother as a collaborator. He needs someone to cut through the pomposity and be honest with him about the story. (I'm guessing that DiCaprio--who has even more clout than Nolan--took on that task with Inception, which I liked.)
We've seen this before. Think of George Lucas. He had good collaborators--the great Lawrence Kasdan--on the first trilogy. Not so much on the second.
Oh, yeah, for sure...he isn't returning to those.
And logically, I think this rules him out of Bond, for the time being.
I would have loved Tony Scott to have done a Bond film, but there again he is one of my all time favourites, so I'm biased.
Look at what Tony Scott did with Enemy of the State and Spy Game, both conspiracy/spy type thrillers. He would have done a great job with Bond.
Yeah. It's looking that way. As always I don't like being delusional. I'm not going to kid myself and say Nolan and Eon won't disagree on certain things. Of course, I would want them to agree. But after the Boyle situation, I'm not living in hope that Nolan would direct, even I would have loved that sort of living.
Never seen Moonraker rated so highly in a ranking list before!
Cool!
I hadn’t thought about this in a while, but I just tried watching QoS from Sienna onwards, cutting out the car chase, and it really does work so much better!
Who is your pick?
I feel like opinions are very much divided and the truth is actually somewhere in the middle.
Regardless, there are certainly other choices, of course. I would've been interested in a Cameron movie maybe in the 90's, but nowadays I don't think he's interested unless it's a VFX extravaganza.