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I’m pretty sure a lot of the finale was written/changed on the fly or in post production (we know Malek and Craig went off and actually developed a lot of the ‘invisible God’ dialogue together. The buyer ships always felt a bit like it’d been added later into the process/had some ADR to set it up in order to create a sort of ‘ticking clock’ scenario).
Other than that, I really don’t think they changed much.
Except that audiences rejected that bullet-like momentum in 2008. Every Bond film is a reaction to the film immediately before it. This constant course correction is arguably why Bond films have survived while so many other franchises have not.
Bingo!
It’s very different to the often disorientating, breathless and frankly slightly incoherent style that Forster in practice produced under his guidance. That’s not to say that the ‘Hunt’ style would be suited to all kinds of Bond films (indeed this changed as early as midway through Connery’s tenure with the kinds of creative decisions taken - you can see in YOLT fight scenes with longer takes being used in the edit compared to the bizarre jump cuts at the end of TB and by that movie the films are longer in length and more ‘loose’ in terms of editing).
The closest we’ve gotten to that brisk, but coherent style in more modern Bond films is TND. That’s actually a good film in terms of direction/creating a fast pace in the edit (love the scene with the Minister of Defence pacing around the General and M, very kinetic, sharply edited and quite effective for the story/scene). Not that we necessarily need a TND either.
My least favorite of the Brosnan era and usually in my Bottom 5. I applaud this being someone's favorite though, I so rarely see that sentiment shared. I did have way more fun with it during last year's Bondathon than I have in the last decade or so at least.
Nothing wrong with TND. It’s the film I’ve used to introduce people to Bond in the past. An excellent pizza and beer movie at least. Good pace (fast and brisk but not breathless), interesting story (I think people look back on it in a better light nowadays due to what it says about the media), and a good dose of drama as well as action. It’s one of my most rewatched Bond films.
Oh, Yeah. The truth is, Brosnan's the Bond I grew up with. To this day, Brosnan's confident performance in TND still gives me joy.
It was the first film I turned to after the NTTD debacle. I miss those type of Bond films.
In terms of how non Bond fans view it (in my experience anyway) I’ve noticed it’s a bit like SF or even CR in the sense that if people don’t like Bond - or at least claim not to - they tend to happily watch and enjoy it.
Yeah. Same here.
- completely remove the Valdo character and as much of the silly tech sublot as possible (such as completely eliminating that London lab scene), without completely eliminating the nanotech McGuffin
- cast another actress to play Nomi (Lynch should have played her as a sympathetic character after Bond regains his 00 status, and I don't think she succeeded. Compare and contrast that with Fiennes' adversary to ally arch in Skyfall.)
- move the entire Cuba sequence to Jamaica
- have Bond die in a less bombastic way. completely annihilating him with missiles is just too much IMHO
Or not at all.
Maybe this could be it's own thread "what Bond 25 should have been"? I certainly have a few ideas of my own to improve what we got, but I don't want to clutter up this space meant for Bond 26.
Here perhaps...
https://www.mi6community.com/discussion/20837/no-time-to-die-script-alternative-pitches-what-would-you-change#latest
Great, thanks.
Bond has proven he can get audiences opening weekend. The financial success after opening weekends is where Bond has proven he is culturally significant and the movies themselves have some substance. Audiences, for now, will always give Bond a chance, and it's magical they never ruined that. So I agree. Bond can move in any direction he wants, as long as he sticks the landing. And so far, every time (save for MAYBE OHMSS and LTK), he has.
And those two have found a pretty loyal audience in the years since their release.
I was rewatching some of The Little Drummer Girl the other day and was reminded that Park Chan-wook has a great visual style that would work for a Bond film. Very strong use of colour throughout.
Michael Shannon would make for a great bad-guy, too.
I go back to it so many times as a guilty pleasure that I think its a compulsion by now ;)
Totally agree. Great pre-credits sequence in TND. I actually prefer it to GE where the effects are a little ropey and I can't stand the line " closing time James, last call. Remember to buy me a pint".