Where does Bond go after Craig?

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  • peterpeter Toronto
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    He has stated publicly that before tackling the third Dune film, he wants to get a separate project in:

    According to Variety, Villeneuve gave an update on Dune: Messiah, which is expected to conclude his Dune trilogy, during a South Korean press conference for Part Two. "The screenplay is almost finished but it is not finished. It will take a little time …There’s a dream of making a third movie … it would make absolute sense to me … I don’t know exactly when I will go back to Arrakis," the director shared, hinting that he "might make a detour before just to go away from the sun. For my mental sanity, I might do something in between…”
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited March 3 Posts: 5,970
    Do we think that maybe EON have been waiting for him? I mean given the writers strike delaying any script developments any writers or Denis himself could be involved in, the actors strike delaying Dune Part Two's release. It could line up if we wanted to reach that far, and would explain maybe Denis considers this secret projects something that needs to go ahead quickly, but again this is all just hypothetical.

    And thanks for sharing that @peter! I missed those comments.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Those comments were made in December, I believe, so I think he already would have been circling this “secret project” back then.

    Whatever it is, it’s clear that he is trying to clean up his slate, having dropped out of a long-gestating TV series with one of his favourite actors Jake Gyllenhaal.

    I don’t know how this post was sent, 😂 unfinished, so to finish a thought it’s clear that Cleopatra, RwR, and Dune 3 are untouchable. When they shoot, and how his team schedules the next five years of his filmmaking life will be key, for this “secret project” (whether it’s Bond, or not).
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    Honestly, I believe that if not Nolan, then Villeneuve would be the best choice to direct Bond 26. And I say that even though I really really want Denis to make Rendezvous with Rama next.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    Hmmmm it seems Villeneuve could....could just be Bond 26's director. The coming months would be very interesting.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Another little nugget - a few months back during a podcast with happy sad confused (on youtube) Edgar Wright stated that he brought up his idea of following "dark chocolate" bond with "milk chocolate" bond to barbara, and apparently "she didn't go for it". So that does suggest EON are looking in Villeneueve's neck of the woods.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Honestly, I believe that if not Nolan, then Villeneuve would be the best choice to direct Bond 26. And I say that even though I really really want Denis to make Rendezvous with Rama next.

    I would very much like him to make RWR next. In fact, I hope the sequels get adapted too someday, no matter how different they are from the first novel. (Then again, I'm still waiting for Odyssey 3 and 4 to get the proper treatment.)
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    Another little nugget - a few months back during a podcast with happy sad confused (on youtube) Edgar Wright stated that he brought up his idea of following "dark chocolate" bond with "milk chocolate" bond to barbara, and apparently "she didn't go for it". So that does suggest EON are looking in Villeneueve's neck of the woods.

    Would love to see the sourcing on this because I saw earlier someone also mention that the "Craig shakeup" to the formula was likely staying for the next guy. Just curious if there's actual conversations happening or if it's all just conjecture.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    Another little nugget - a few months back during a podcast with happy sad confused (on youtube) Edgar Wright stated that he brought up his idea of following "dark chocolate" bond with "milk chocolate" bond to barbara, and apparently "she didn't go for it". So that does suggest EON are looking in Villeneueve's neck of the woods.

    Would love to see the sourcing on this because I saw earlier someone also mention that the "Craig shakeup" to the formula was likely staying for the next guy. Just curious if there's actual conversations happening or if it's all just conjecture.

    The podcast is on YouTube. Look up happy sad confused, Edgar Wright from a few months ago. The video has timestamps with the section they talk about Bond.
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    @peter, that is very auspicious. Thanks for sharing the best news for a while. DV directing Bond would be a true gift. I’ve been wanting this for years.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    Another little nugget - a few months back during a podcast with happy sad confused (on youtube) Edgar Wright stated that he brought up his idea of following "dark chocolate" bond with "milk chocolate" bond to barbara, and apparently "she didn't go for it". So that does suggest EON are looking in Villeneueve's neck of the woods.

    Yeah. It's looking that way.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited March 3 Posts: 5,970
    I also have to mention quickly how much I appreciate how Denis handles female characters.
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    Honestly, I believe that if not Nolan, then Villeneuve would be the best choice to direct Bond 26.

    I disagree. If Nolan or Villeneuve direct the next Bond, I'll have to think about whether I'll watch the movie at all.
    But it wouldn't be surprising if Nolan or Villeneuve will direct Bond 26.
    I don't think they will deviate from the course of the last era, which I mostly didn't enjoy.
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    I also have to mention quickly how much I appreciate how Denis handles female characters.

    Oh, absolutely. Will we finally have our femme fatale, dear @Denbigh? ;)
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Univex wrote: »
    @peter, that is very auspicious. Thanks for sharing the best news for a while. DV directing Bond would be a true gift. I’ve been wanting this for years.

    I really am making a theory:

    We have *some* "facts":

    We know that Villeneuve *did* speak with Broccoli before Fukunaga was attached to NTTD.

    He stated his disappointment that they couldn't make his schedule work at that time (he was deep in preproduction on the first Dune).

    He has since, and repeatedly, stated his admiration for Bond and being a fan since he was a kid.

    He has stated, more than once, that he wants to direct a Bond film.

    He was at Broccoli's table at an event, and;

    It was just two days later that he backed out of his long gestating TV series with Gylanhaal.

    He has said, for his own sanity, he'd love to do a project in between Dune 2 and 3 (and both Cleopatra and RwR don't sound like projects one just "slips in" between projects (both sound like epics)).

    Now he's talking about another project that's secret, and needs to see the light of day quickly (so, whether this is Bond, or not, it sounds like he's saying that whatever this project is, if it's soon to go, he'd be able to place it in his schedule).

    That's all I'm basing my theory on...
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    It really is a well weaved theory, my friend, and I hope it proves itself true. Btw, sorry for my ignorance, but what is RwR?
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    Hopefully it's not true, my anticipation for the next movie would be gone. :(
    There are many other talented directors out there.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    @Univex

    It’s Rendezvous with Rama , and Arthur C Clarke sci-fi novel that Villeneuve is attached to.

    Edit: @Kojak007 , don’t fret yet. No one knows if this is the case.

    Villeneuve is the big director who I know is one that, not only do EoN want, but they really did have a meeting with him for Craig’s last film, and it was scheduling that stopped this union from happening.

    So knowing there’s a mutual understanding that both parties would like to see this happen, combined with some other published reports, I’ve designed a theory— nothing more.

    I do get the sense that this is awfully suspicious, and the “secrecy” just smells of EoN’s desire to always hold things close to their chest.

    I don’t have a dog in the fight and I’m not advocating for any one director (although I have a couple of strong opinions on who I wouldn’t want directing Bond), and I’m sure the right person for this film will be chosen.
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    peter wrote: »
    @Univex

    It’s Rendezvous with Rama , and Arthur C Clarke sci-fi novel that Villeneuve is attached to.

    Thanks, @peter. I generally like ACC, and the synopsis for this made me think DV could make his most Kubrickian entry so far. Very exciting!
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    Univex wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    I also have to mention quickly how much I appreciate how Denis handles female characters.

    Oh, absolutely. Will we finally have our femme fatale, dear @Denbigh? ;)
    🤞🤞🤞
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    I also have to mention quickly how much I appreciate how Denis handles female characters.

    Oh, absolutely. Will we finally have our femme fatale, dear @Denbigh? ;)
    🤞🤞🤞

    Sylvia Hoeks would do nicely ;)
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Kojak007 wrote: »
    Honestly, I believe that if not Nolan, then Villeneuve would be the best choice to direct Bond 26.

    I disagree. If Nolan or Villeneuve direct the next Bond, I'll have to think about whether I'll watch the movie at all.
    But it wouldn't be surprising if Nolan or Villeneuve will direct Bond 26.
    I don't think they will deviate from the course of the last era, which I mostly didn't enjoy.

    I’m starting to think that way if Purvis and Wade are back, lol. Bond resigning, M being a hypocrite needs to stop.
  • edited March 3 Posts: 6,709
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Kojak007 wrote: »
    Honestly, I believe that if not Nolan, then Villeneuve would be the best choice to direct Bond 26.

    I disagree. If Nolan or Villeneuve direct the next Bond, I'll have to think about whether I'll watch the movie at all.
    But it wouldn't be surprising if Nolan or Villeneuve will direct Bond 26.
    I don't think they will deviate from the course of the last era, which I mostly didn't enjoy.

    I’m starting to think that way if Purvis and Wade are back, lol. Bond resigning, M being a hypocrite needs to stop.

    I can’t, for the life of me, be a fan of that duo. I know many of our complaints are not their fault, but I don’t particularly like their writing and creative methods, and I think a stronger talent and name would better arm wrestle any director’s creative illuminations, such as code name theories and other precarious and nefarious ideas.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    But I do think Purvis and Wade have had their successes too and if we're onto something and Denis does indeed direct Bond 26, he's also a writer so I think even if Purvis and Wade end up writing a draft, you can expect Denis to have his own input on that front.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    But I do think Purvis and Wade have had their successes too and if we're onto something and Denis does indeed direct Bond 26, he's also a writer so I think even if Purvis and Wade end up writing a draft, you can expect Denis to have his own input on that front.
    Denbigh wrote: »
    But I do think Purvis and Wade have had their successes too and if we're onto something and Denis does indeed direct Bond 26, he's also a writer so I think even if Purvis and Wade end up writing a draft, you can expect Denis to have his own input on that front.

    As well as plenty of other uncredited script doctors (some to punch up dialogue or characterization, some for plot and themes, some for upping stakes in action sequences...)
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    peter wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    But I do think Purvis and Wade have had their successes too and if we're onto something and Denis does indeed direct Bond 26, he's also a writer so I think even if Purvis and Wade end up writing a draft, you can expect Denis to have his own input on that front.
    Denbigh wrote: »
    But I do think Purvis and Wade have had their successes too and if we're onto something and Denis does indeed direct Bond 26, he's also a writer so I think even if Purvis and Wade end up writing a draft, you can expect Denis to have his own input on that front.

    As well as plenty of other uncredited script doctors (some to punch up dialogue or characterization, some for plot and themes, some for upping stakes in action sequences...)

    That’s true. And even though I don’t blindly trust the duo, the scenario where they work with DV on a script is one I do trust. There are combinations that work, others that don’t. Flavours that only work with others. And DV is a strong enough flavour to make that combo work, IMO.
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    Oh, if Barbara managed to snag Villeneuve, that would be wonderful news. I just know that a Bond movie made by him would delight us with fantastic production design, it feels like a trademark of his to shoot scenes in a way that it lingers enough to let you absorb the atmosphere where they take place. In my opinion this is similar to older films and not something you usually see in the cinemas currently. Also he definitely knows how to retain that tactile feeling to special effects that makes it look real and not just green screen, case in point: Blade Runner 2049 and Dune. And on top of that his films tend to show off a wonderful sense of scale, the skyscrapers in Blade Runner 2049 really feel towering on the screen. As he's said himself, he really values film as a visual medium and that would make the next Bond a great experience.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited March 3 Posts: 4,619
    I’m sorry to start another Purvis and Wade fight, but nothing in Bond needs to change for the future more than the writing. See my TWINE missed opportunities for my reasons. I know they don’t write alone, but something’s happen to much with them, that it’s a trademark with them. Or EON with their artsy directors. I’m actually happy that they have worked on Bond (their QOS was the better script), but it’s honestly time for everyone to move on.
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    I’m sorry to start another Purvis and Wade fight, but nothing in Bond needs to change for the future more than the writing. See my TWINE missed opportunities for my reasons. I know they don’t write alone, but something’s happen to much with them, that it’s a trademark with them. Or EON with their artsy directors. I’m actually happy that they have worked on Bond (their QOS was the better script), but it’s honestly time for everyone to move on.

    I couldn’t agree more.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Univex wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    I’m sorry to start another Purvis and Wade fight, but nothing in Bond needs to change for the future more than the writing. See my TWINE missed opportunities for my reasons. I know they don’t write alone, but something’s happen to much with them, that it’s a trademark with them. Or EON with their artsy directors. I’m actually happy that they have worked on Bond (their QOS was the better script), but it’s honestly time for everyone to move on.

    I couldn’t agree more.

    Seconded. Seriously, these guys need dusting off. Time to bring in a fresh take. They know their stuff, but as has been proven on this forum, they're not the only ones out there. At least it can't hurt to bring in someone else for a change.
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