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Very true, @Denbigh … I’d love for her to play some imposing force in Bond (not necessarily a villain, although…. But even an ally with her own agenda)…
😂, true!! I think that’d be a little tense. But…, then again….
…..in that off the wall and bizarre series, Preacher, the leads Ruth Negga (who was Craig’s Lady MacBeth), and Dominic Cooper were a serious item, broke up, then shortly thereafter played ex-lovers (who were still in love and were inching back to each other), so it can be done… So who knows, @Denbigh ….??
Ruth Negga is another actress who’d be amazing. She’d be an incredible main villain I think.
@Denbigh , my wife and I were front row seats for MacBeth…. She was unbelievable and she delivered the humour with a lovely, biting, darkness.
She was, without a doubt, the sexiest, coolest, Lady MacBeth I’ve ever had the pleasure of watching.
She and Craig filled that stage, and although the company was very strong (minus one actor), they were no match for these two giants. It was an incredible experience, and yes, I agree, she’d be a devil vs Mr. Bond.
The banquet scene was done with great humour. Like Lady M is being embarrassed by the ramblings of her deranged husband. The theatre was laughing out loud, and Negga was absolutely delicious. It was so well played.
I’ve actually never seen Fassbender/Cotillard! It’s now on my agenda.
And oh yeah you have to! It’s one of my personal favourite adaptations and just operates on so many levels, not just story but in terms of production etc. Amazing! And in terms of scriptwriting, they play around with some of their own subtext.
I also recommend Joel Coen’s version with Denzel Washington and Frances McDormand.
I mean, if you want another example, NTTD creates humour by subverting expectations (ie. Paloma actually being a good agent and not a ditz, Bond delivering his iconic line to a bored security guard etc). That’s an evolution too surely?
You’ve also talked about Craig Bond’s comparative sarcasm/(or ‘grumpiness’) compared to his predecessors. That’s kinda a different take on that Bondian humour/attitude too you can argue
I don't really follow the first one as an example of subverting expectations because Bond girls have always been capable. Honey was capable, Pussy was capable, Tracy was capable, Anya was capable, Melina was capable, Natalya was capable, Wai Lin was capable. It's more of a casual fans misconception that bond girls are all airhead damsels, not that I'm calling you a casual fan ofcourse. :)
EDIT: @007HallY It's just occurred to me that we're talking about separate things. You're talking about how Craigs films subverts the classic humour style, and I'm talking about forwarding that style onto the next step, so it's something different. You can subvert until the cows come home, but that doesn't change the unlying value of the thing - it's still the same. I want to change THAT thing, to evolve it, as the humour of goldfinger was an evolution from Dr No, not a subvertion.
Ok. That’s convenient 😂
My two pence on this is: not every Bond girl has been capable throughout their films. Mary Goodnight and Tiffany Case for instance actually create obstructs for Bond through their bumbling. But you don’t need to have seen any other Bond film to get the joke with Paloma. We think she’s a ditz and she acts like it but is actually a confident agent. That’s it.
Subverting expectations I’d say is an evolution of any franchise’s humour. I mean, on a basic level it’s different and twists what came before it. No need to move the goal posts. If you don’t like that example see my second one. We can agree to disagree otherwise :)
In all honesty its spring time relax everyone go outs side read a book enjoy fresh air
I, for one, have a Lagavulin 16 in front of me right now and a cigar, under the threes in the garden at evening. Right now, I’ll just make a toast to EON and to the task in hands. Take your time, make it count. We’ll be here. That’s all.
Here is the new 007 its official ;)
(Man the 80’s had all the great shows)
And then it dawned on me.
I was there. I saw it, too.
At the end of the day we all just want a good Bond film, preferably under 140 minutes! :-bd
No, YOU want a film under 140 minutes. And no matter how often others point out that they don't care as long as the film is good, you refuse to accept that.
I know, @DarthDimi ... I always love how @Mendes4Lyfe is always telling us what "we" want, 😂!
The current bond lost his best friend, his other best friend, the love of his life, his boss and died before his daughter could learn his name. If there is a creative bottleneck for the bond series at the moment, it isn't coming from a "dramatic" angle. In 2002 bond was still the unflappable superspy, and that was what hamstrung EON in the type of stories they could tell, because bond could never truly be affected by what he experienced, and the story of Casino Royale was basically them breaking that taboo. Flashforward to today, and what is the bottleneck now? what is keeping them from breaking new ground? For me it comes not from the dramatic, as it did with Craig, but from the comedic side. In the same way that the brosnan films couldn't take themselves seriously enough, and it hampered them from The World Is Not Enough onwards, modern bond can't be fanciful and stylised enough, and it means that a lot of potential great story opportunities are left on the table as a result. The next Bond has to address this balance IMO.
Quite alot I suspect. Didn't she right the Bond name gag when he approaches the reception desk and the guy didn't recognise his name as he been away so long? If not this then she would certainly have been involved in the Nomi put downs of Bond when he is on the point of flirting.
https://www.indiewire.com/features/general/phoebe-waller-bridge-shaped-no-time-to-die-plot-1234667662/
Talented writer, she did a lot more than what has been discussed, hence why the WGA awarded her with a writing credit (in contrast, Scott Z Burns wasn’t credited for his work on NTTD)….
It's quite helpful, @peter. When someone asks me what I want out of my next Bond film, I simply have to refer to Mendes. Director, actor, length, story, what's wrong with NTTD, what youtuber to go to for "facts", ... I don't have to think for myself anymore because others "know" exactly what I want, what all Bond fans want, in fact. It's very creepy. I can even barf out the maths concerning logical release dates. The funny thing is that it has the opposite effects on me. I can't stand Turner, I almost want an unknown to direct the next film, I am hoping for a 3-hour film, and so on. And that's creepy too. Entitled fans who state their wishes as hard rules and who turn speculation into all but confirmed call-sheets and schedules, frighten me, to be honest.
We are seeing and feeling the exact same things…
This is a bit hyperbolic. These events all happened in over 12 hours of screen time and over 15 years of real time.
They all died with him standing over them crying. What are the chances of that? :-O