Where does Bond go after Craig?

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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited July 24 Posts: 16,382
    If, as QBranch says, you picked an older Bentley (as Bond in the novels did: he never had the latest model) I think the Bentley Brooklands Coupé from the late 2000s suits him: it's a big, powerful 'selfish' car.

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    The Rolls Royce Spectre kind of reminds me of that too, although it's enormous. But Bond in a Rolls doesn't feel right.

    But in truth I'd prefer him to stick to the Astons. They feel closer to the spirit of those 30s and 50s Bentleys to me, and they look nicer too if you ask me.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    edited July 24 Posts: 1,646
    Bentleys going forward will all be V-8 Hybrid. Sad to hear the W-12 legacy is over, as Bond would have appreciated it and should have been in one in the Craig era probably. But Aston is sticking to V-12 engines for now, so perhaps that's where Bond would keep his, or his government's, purchase. That said, a hybrid powertrain does have an inherent "stealth" mode in its electric-only drive mode, where the e-motors are near silent. Aston has announced it will invest in hybrids soon but has not yet developed any product.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited July 24 Posts: 8,395
    007HallY wrote: »
    I think they’ll definitely be thinking about what they want from Bond 7, but a part of it comes from the actor’s individual take, and I don’t think they’re waiting for actors or anything.

    I suspect aspects of Craig’s Bond/his films are here to stay, but that’s to be expected. Otherwise the past tells us that the next actor will play the character in their own way.

    What would you mean by this?
  • Posts: 4,139
    007HallY wrote: »
    I think they’ll definitely be thinking about what they want from Bond 7, but a part of it comes from the actor’s individual take, and I don’t think they’re waiting for actors or anything.

    I suspect aspects of Craig’s Bond/his films are here to stay, but that’s to be expected. Otherwise the past tells us that the next actor will play the character in their own way.

    What would you mean by this?

    I think it’s the tendency in Bond for aspects of the previous actor’s era to remain at least for the first film in the new actor’s era. And anyway, similar ideas seen in the Brosnan era were done as well in the Craig one (which isn’t unusual considering it’s the same producers and/or writers). Same more broadly for aspects of the previous actor’s way of playing Bond. Something tends to stick (but as I said I think every actor has done a great job at playing the character in their own way).
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    007HallY wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I think they’ll definitely be thinking about what they want from Bond 7, but a part of it comes from the actor’s individual take, and I don’t think they’re waiting for actors or anything.

    I suspect aspects of Craig’s Bond/his films are here to stay, but that’s to be expected. Otherwise the past tells us that the next actor will play the character in their own way.

    What would you mean by this?

    I think it’s the tendency in Bond for aspects of the previous actor’s era to remain at least for the first film in the new actor’s era. And anyway, similar ideas seen in the Brosnan era were done as well in the Craig one (which isn’t unusual considering it’s the same producers and/or writers). Same more broadly for aspects of the previous actor’s way of playing Bond. Something tends to stick (but as I said I think every actor has done a great job at playing the character in their own way).

    But "here to stay" has a slight sinister bent to it. Like here whether we like it or not.

    Aspects of Brosnans bond carried over into Craig, sure, but they weren't "here to stay" in the sense that they're permanent fixtures that we just have to learn to live with. When in comes to art, nothing is beyond reproach.
  • edited July 24 Posts: 4,139
    007HallY wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I think they’ll definitely be thinking about what they want from Bond 7, but a part of it comes from the actor’s individual take, and I don’t think they’re waiting for actors or anything.

    I suspect aspects of Craig’s Bond/his films are here to stay, but that’s to be expected. Otherwise the past tells us that the next actor will play the character in their own way.

    What would you mean by this?

    I think it’s the tendency in Bond for aspects of the previous actor’s era to remain at least for the first film in the new actor’s era. And anyway, similar ideas seen in the Brosnan era were done as well in the Craig one (which isn’t unusual considering it’s the same producers and/or writers). Same more broadly for aspects of the previous actor’s way of playing Bond. Something tends to stick (but as I said I think every actor has done a great job at playing the character in their own way).

    But "here to stay" has a slight sinister bent to it. Like here whether we like it or not.

    Aspects of Brosnans bond carried over into Craig, sure, but they weren't "here to stay" in the sense that they're permanent fixtures that we just have to learn to live with. When in comes to art, nothing is beyond reproach.

    Depends on how you look at it, but fair enough. I guess what I was trying to say is I can imagine Bond 26 not being unlike one of Craig’s films.

    To paraphrase Le Chiffre, nothing sinister intended!
  • edited July 24 Posts: 728
    We are in for a long wait.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Too bad we 'only' have 25 (or 27) Bond films to enjoy in the mean time. ;-)
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Too bad we 'only' have 25 (or 27) Bond films to enjoy in the mean time. ;-)

    Not too mention, multiple books, comics and video games. We are truly lucky.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,179
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Too bad we 'only' have 25 (or 27) Bond films to enjoy in the mean time. ;-)

    Not too mention, multiple books, comics and video games. We are truly lucky.

    Exactly.
    Obviously, I enjoy the prospect of a new Bond film very much, but I'm not going to waste my life craving more substance when we've got so much of it already. We'll get another Bond eventually. When? Someday. Why not now? Because the people making these films aren't making them right now. What can we do about that? Nothing. Complaining online won't speed things up.
  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
    Posts: 1,101
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Too bad we 'only' have 25 (or 27) Bond films to enjoy in the mean time. ;-)

    Not too mention, multiple books, comics and video games. We are truly lucky.

    Exactly.
    Obviously, I enjoy the prospect of a new Bond film very much, but I'm not going to waste my life craving more substance when we've got so much of it already. We'll get another Bond eventually. When? Someday. Why not now? Because the people making these films aren't making them right now. What can we do about that? Nothing. Complaining online won't speed things up.

    ...Unless you're a DC Snyderverse stan, or a Sonic the Hedgehog fan...
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited July 25 Posts: 8,395
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Too bad we 'only' have 25 (or 27) Bond films to enjoy in the mean time. ;-)

    Unfortunately many of us already watched those during the last 6 year wait from 2015 to 2021. :(
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Since62 wrote: »
    QBranch wrote: »
    If they're giving fans a definitive version of Wolverine, I want to do the same for Bond
    Same. The scar on the cheek, the three gold rings, the Beretta, the green Bentley.

    Green ? I recall Fleming describing it as Battleship Grey. At any rate - do you mean one of the cars from the years Fleming stated ? If so, and if story not told in Period, then one of those would cost a fortune now and be rarer and a more appreciated antique...and less capable a driver. Perhaps update the concept to a more recent Bentley ? Still expensive and it seeems only a Continental GT would be a car with the appropriate character. I don't know what an early one would cost. Of course - and I think this happened for the Books-Bond - he could have gotten one at a discount were it in an accident, blown engine, etc., even with costs of repairs.
    Hey yeah, you're right - battleship grey. Forgot about that. I keep getting it mixed up with the green Bentleys that Bond drives in other adventures (FRWL film; Gardner novels). This is the one I posted once before, the 1994 Continental R which looks subtle enough. I would have a straight edge on that side skirt though.

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  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited July 25 Posts: 24,179
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Too bad we 'only' have 25 (or 27) Bond films to enjoy in the mean time. ;-)

    Not too mention, multiple books, comics and video games. We are truly lucky.

    Exactly.
    Obviously, I enjoy the prospect of a new Bond film very much, but I'm not going to waste my life craving more substance when we've got so much of it already. We'll get another Bond eventually. When? Someday. Why not now? Because the people making these films aren't making them right now. What can we do about that? Nothing. Complaining online won't speed things up.

    ...Unless you're a DC Snyderverse stan, or a Sonic the Hedgehog fan...

    I am glad the Bond fans don't hold that kind of power over EON.
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Too bad we 'only' have 25 (or 27) Bond films to enjoy in the mean time. ;-)

    Unfortunately many of us already watched those during the last 6 year wait from 2015 to 2021. :(

    Great. We can watch them again. Or we can watch other things. That's how it goes with most film series, except the ones that people complain about for piling up new release after new release.
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    @QBranch the new one looks nice in green. Though I do think the Astons look more sporty.

    Do not check out the Serpent Green colour, it's wild!
  • edited July 25 Posts: 1,340
    Sure, if they don't want my money I'm sure I'll find other things to spend it on ;)
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    @DewiWynBond That is nice indeed. Reminds me of a Jag.

    I read that Bentley didn't want John Gardner to put any gadgets in Bond's car (besides a phone). I wonder if that rule would apply today, or they soften to the idea of optional extras after seeing the following partnership success with Aston.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited July 25 Posts: 16,382
    QBranch wrote: »
    I read that Bentley didn't want John Gardner to put any gadgets in Bond's car (besides a phone).

    I didn't know that, how strange. As I remember Horowitz has one of Bond's Bentleys fitted with bulletproofing.
  • Posts: 1,340
    QBranch wrote: »
    @DewiWynBond That is nice indeed. Reminds me of a Jag.

    I read that Bentley didn't want John Gardner to put any gadgets in Bond's car (besides a phone). I wonder if that rule would apply today, or they soften to the idea of optional extras after seeing the following partnership success with Aston.


    Can they do that? It's a book, there are no real cars involved.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    Posts: 5,970
    I kinda want them to keep the Aston Martin V8 Vantage around. Love that car and criminally underused in No Time To Die, although I get why.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    I kinda want them to keep the Aston Martin V8 Vantage around. Love that car and criminally underused in No Time To Die, although I get why.

    Yeah. Same here. I love the car. It could easily be a car Bond 7 uses majorly and memorable in just 2 of his films, so it doesn't dominate his era like the DB5 did with Craig's Bond.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    Aesthetically it does nothing for me, I prefer the more modern Astons. I don't really care too much about what he drives, though.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    I kinda want them to keep the Aston Martin V8 Vantage around. Love that car and criminally underused in No Time To Die, although I get why.

    I think it does suit Bond pretty perfectly. It's also big, grey, old and brutish; so kind of aligns with the cars Fleming gives Bond the best of anything we've seen in the movies.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    I keep wondering about the Valhalla in NTTD, if they filmed action scenes with it and then decided to remove it from the final cut.
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Being chauffeured by Tibbett
    edited July 25 Posts: 682
    I'm not sure why they included it at all. It makes no sense for a spy to use, even in Bond's world. It's more suited for a villain.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited July 25 Posts: 2,016
    I'm not sure why they included at all. It makes no sense for a spy to use, even in Bond's world. More suitable for a villain.

    Yeah. It's got a sinister look to it. It also looks like a car that would easily pass for the Batmobile. Although, it's a car one can easily imagine Brosnan's Bond using, as it looks too outlandish for Craig's Bond. Just curious why it was in NTTD, though. Maybe they changed their mind from featuring it extensively.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited July 25 Posts: 16,382
    I keep wondering about the Valhalla in NTTD, if they filmed action scenes with it and then decided to remove it from the final cut.

    No action I think, but they shot the scenes with Nomi driving it; they then replaced it with the DBS Superleggera. The shot of her picking Bond up as he walks along the road for example has a CG DBS there- the real shot was done with the Valhalla.
    As I remember there's a bit of a clue to that in the trailers- I think one of the trailers has the car without a numberplate which then got added in a later trailer or the film.

    The funny thing is with the Valhalla that the film took so long to get released that Aston actually changed the design of the car between the shooting and release of the film!
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    We know one thing for absolute certain about Bond 26 - There will be a pivotal scene that establishes this new Bond and cements how the audience should percieve him.

    Connery had the "you've had your six".

    Moore had "sheer magnetism darling"

    Dalton had "I got the message".

    Brosnan had the aston chase with xenia, "ladies first".

    Craig had the foot chase on the big crane, and the seduction of solange "no, for one".
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Being chauffeured by Tibbett
    edited July 25 Posts: 682
    mtm wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    I kinda want them to keep the Aston Martin V8 Vantage around. Love that car and criminally underused in No Time To Die, although I get why.

    I think it does suit Bond pretty perfectly. It's also big, grey, old and brutish; so kind of aligns with the cars Fleming gives Bond the best of anything we've seen in the movies.

    Quite agree. I wouldn't mind it becoming the new DB5 to be honest. Reminds me of this great segment from TG:

  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,382
    Gosh that feels quite Brexity in retrospect, doesn't it!
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