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You would’ve had to wait either way for the next film Deke. That point bears nothing on what I’ve said.
Nope.
Overall worse in my opinion. I liked Craig as Bond but the universe they created around him fell apart way too quickly. Scooby gang, retro fitted story arch, and BroFeld to name just a few.
Not so. I am actually waiting for the next series of films to wash away the unevenness of the Craig era.
I agree, I think they really went into the wrong direction with Spectre, Bond 24 should've been more of a Casino Royale, stand-alone type mission. Maybe save some of the Spectre storyline for a two-film arc later.
QoS for me, though he has some signs of his old self in NTTD. He really doesn't do anything to impress me in the SF PTS. The Bond of QoS would've absolutely destroyed Patrice (I know, I know, it's not real, it's what the script calls for, etc., but they're two different Bonds almost in my eyes).
Adjusting his cufflinks after having torn the back of a moving train apart, is pretty darn close to the QoS badass vibes. :-)
In contrast to that sequence there's the scene in the Norway cabin where he's a soft and needy. Not my taste.
I feel people who say this about SF's PTS always forget that Bond has a bullet in his shoulder by the time he actually gets round to fighting Patrice. Bond even punches him flat onto the ground at one point using his wounded arm/shoulder.
If that's not the Bond of QOS I really don't know what is! The only difference is throughout the SF PTS he's effectively worn down until he ends up 'dying'.
That or it might just be the choreography/pace of the train fight being a bit slower to build up tension... but even then I can believe it's the same Bond who takes on the henchmen in the CR staircase fight (which is another gripping sequence).
My favorite action sequence of the film right there. Damn impressive stuff.
And yeah, the cufflink-adjustment is really great, but I don't know that it's "badass." It certainly looks cool.
@007HallY, you are right, he was injured by that point, so I guess that adds to it. I've personally never cared for the fight choreography in SF though. QoS spoiled me on the action front for the rest of the Craig era.
Fair enough, to each their own. I personally like Bond fights to feel a bit gritty/even a bit realistic while having something uniquely Bondian about them (ie. they take place in an unusual location or involve weapons you wouldn't ordinarily see used. The SF fight atop the train is very much that for me).
For me, sometimes the fights in QOS feel gritty, but not necessarily realistic. The Slate fight has really good sound effects (you can hear the crack as Bond butts him in the head or breaks Slate's fingers, which is cool and evocative) but the choreography itself is just a wee bit too fast to feel natural. It doesn't feel like a genuine scuffle like the staircase fight in CR or the train one in SF, but something rehearsed. Almost like they're doing some sort of dance.
I much prefer it to the fights in NTTD though.
Maybe that's why it's taking so long to get the next film going. So many choices, where does one start? Actually, I don't believe there are many options.
Just because we don’t like the rate of progress on Bond 26 does not mean EON has officially ran out of steam. Considering they’ve been making these movies for over 60 years, I think it’s fair to say thinking otherwise comes across as a bit naive. Unless I hear it straight from the horses mouth, there are still new creative avenues.
It's storytelling. There are an infinite number of avenues they can take for the next era (that will be making moves in 2026, for a 2027 release).
Ok maybe that's a bad idea.
THEY have not been making these films for the last 60 years. From Cubby/Harry to Barbara/Michael, there have been different regimes at the helm.
One thing I struggled with re. the NTTD fights was the idea that Ash could fight Craig's Bond to a standstill. I know he was older and he'd been out of the game for five years, but...nah. Stairwell sequences is great, though - 'I've just shown someone your watch'. Classic.
Makes sense. It’s good choreography, but it’s like the fights from Bourne for me. It looks as if both men know where exactly each other’s arms/fists are going to go to the point they’re blocking each other very quickly, so we get this smoothness to it which doesn’t quite look like a real scuffle. Again, almost dance-like. The other thing that annoys me about it is the camera keeps getting placed in unnecessary wider positions (it literally cuts to a high angle shot behind the fan. That’s not an easy shot to set up, and yet it adds nothing and makes us feel detached from the fight. I think the camera should have stayed close to the fight, much more claustrophobic).
That said, I think it’s better than most of the fights from Bourne. The sound effects are very evocative which helps.
I do agree about the Ash fight in NTTD. That film also has this rehearsed quality to the fights which doesn’t always feel real to me either (why both Ash and Bond stop in the middle of the scuffle is a bit random).
How I long for those days were Bond movies were just a huge fun spectacle with setpieces, glamour, and a Bond who kicked a... and where he didn't have to deal with inner demons and family issues.
If I want philosophy, character development and a script that would make the likes of Aaron Sorkin go "wow", I'll visit the other part of the library.
I know it's probably just me, but to each his own.
Oh, you want Christopher Nolan?
I'm thinking of something along the lines of GE when Bond is on the beach and he states to Natalya that his attitude to his job is 'what keeps him alive'. Or in TSWLM when Bond has to admit to Anya that he killed her boyfriend by saying 'it was either him or me'. Or in CR when he's talking to Vesper over dinner and he says he wouldn't be good at his job if killing bothered him on a deep level. It's there as well in SF when he's looking out at the Scottish landscape and M is trying to press him about his past (Bond never openly talks about it either). For me, all that sort of stuff is very much James Bond. He's a man who understands the realities of his job, and even puts up a front about it (even if it's something as simple as giving a humorous quip after killing someone).
As long as the script, director, and actor handle it in that Bondian, minimal way as they've done throughout the series, it'll work. Those sorts of things humanise Bond. I like how in CR, for example, Bond is a bit of an arrogant b*stard to Vesper up until the shower scene (again, very simple scene and quite minimally done, nothing overdramatic about it). A little moment like that could do the same thing for a younger, more reckless/brash version of Bond.
Oh, I want Nolan too @DewiWynBond but it's looking like it's not going to happen. We don't really know that, though. But I think once Nolan announce his next film, we would know better.
Yeah just see this https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2024/8/14/rumor-christopher-nolans-next-film-set-for-july-17-2026-release
And to be honest, I think he's better off doing that than Bond. I think it may even actually be quite good. Never been keen on a Nolan directed Bond.
Would love if Daniel Craig starred in the lead role though! Don't know how suited he'd be to it (the extent of my knowledge about the The Prisoner is that episode of The Simpsons that parodied it).
He also seems to jump back and forth between sci-fi/action and historical projects, and with Oppenheimer being his last release, it makes sense he'd go with something like that for his next film.