It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!
^ Back to Top
The MI6 Community is unofficial and in no way associated or linked with EON Productions, MGM, Sony Pictures, Activision or Ian Fleming Publications. Any views expressed on this website are of the individual members and do not necessarily reflect those of the Community owners. Any video or images displayed in topics on MI6 Community are embedded by users from third party sites and as such MI6 Community and its owners take no responsibility for this material.
James Bond News • James Bond Articles • James Bond Magazine
Comments
The original Star Wars trilogy aged better than the prequel trilogy even though the latter came out 20 years later.
One is a subset of the other, yes.
If you can aim at kids (the Corgi toy) as well as adults (the golden girl) then you've cracked it. Same situation today. Blimey, they picked Billie Eilish to do the theme for the last one, it's not new thinking.
I think the question is more why wouldn't they want to aim it at Gen Z, and all the other gens too? Scara74 asked who cares, well the people who are putting hundreds of millions into the thing care.
To be honest I think NTTD already has quite a lot of that: Bond isn't horrendously sexist at any point in it really, doesn't do anything which anyone would describe as outrageously toxic or misogynistic. The character has already been tweaked, and all of these folk who get angry at the idea of him changing didn't even notice.
Who didn't notice? Everyone saw daddy Bond
Genuinely don't remember that. Mostly I just recall people wanting her to be in it more.
I don't think he's even that different from Spectre really. He's pretty caring and respectful in that. You have to go back to Skyfall where some workplace lawsuits would be flying about.
Isn't this based on the assumption that they will mention B26 when accepting the Thalberg Award in November?
It's kind of like how he changed over the course of Roger's films: the smoking faded out, he became less nasty, a bit more caring and respectful... still stayed James Bond. It was fine.
Yeah that was what Ajay said he thought would happen. I don't know if he had a source or that or it was just a hope.
I can imagine the next film having a much more 'traditional' Bond (ie. in his prime, bedding a few women, less jaded/reflective initially etc. Not dissimilar to how he came across in CR). But I also suspect there'll be a portion of people who'll complain about the next Bond regardless!
I can imagine a scenario where the next Bond film acknowledges that Bond can/has to be a bit of a b*stard in his profession and have him have to confront that. Something more or less like Bond coldly saying for that Natalya means nothing to him in GE, or his seduction of Agent Fields leading to her death in QOS.
I think that is assured.
Yeah I absolutely think a bit coldness is always a good element and I don't see why that would be going anywhere.
Although I'm not sure he was all that cold with Fields: he seemed to really regret that and even got a bit angry. Maybe more Solange's death, he was colder there.
I think the coldness with Sévérine threw people a bit: although it was just Bond trying to throw Silva off balance, his making a joke at her death was a bit of a lot to give to the audience in a short space of time. I don't think it went down great.
Yeah, he had to put on much more of a front with Solonge and Severine's deaths. But I do like his reaction to Field's death. It's very subtle but it's interesting seeing Bond have to face the consequences of some of his methods.
What do you people think he was doing for the five years in Jamaica? Do we think he was living like a monk? He might not have been globetrotting, but he was certainly living a relaxing lifestyle and evidently bedding lots of women if his initial vibes with Nomi were anything to go by.
They didn't remove anything. The new stuff was added on top of what exists in a way that made sense.
Maybe he had been living like a monk in Jamaica, though - at least relative to his earlier life. Fukunaga said that he even decided not to include Bond having a gardener because he wanted to emphasise just how isolated and alone he'd become in Jamaica. I'd've liked to have seen a bit more of that brooding Bond, tbh.
👍
CraigIsNotBond is a thing past 2006? Wow...
Yeah. Sounds great, right? Especially for a man in his 50s. I'd love it.
Absolutely, worked for Ian Fleming too. Zek obviously agrees as he said it was a way of adding new stuff to him.
Sometimes, visions that look 20/20 in the beginning, become blurred and incongruous over time. It happens more often than you think. The seemingly quick turnaround between the separation from Boyle and the hiring of Fukunaga heavily suggests that things were in motion well before the reporting. I believe QOS's original director either left the film a week or two before production started or a couple weeks into production.
If the character ever moves away from sex and death, then it’s no long a Bond film.
That's the point. People have noticed.
But yet the original Jurassic Park is still better in all respects than any of the sequels. I'd say the same of Raiders of the Lost Ark. Tech progresses but can't trump a classic story.