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Yes, that is stupid.
And when they refer to a need to "breathe new life into the franchise", I don't know what they're talking about. Bond is bigger than its been since 1965.
Sadly enough I think this idea will gain a lot of traction in today's climate. Remains to be seen if the producers capitulate. Based on what Babs has said before, I hope not...but as Bond fans we know to never say never.
Besides what is this tosh about Bond franchise needing "a breath of fresh air"? Apparently NTTD is doing tremendous business even when the pandemic isn't exactly over. I went to a lunchtime showing and it was packed.
My only worry about the future is that Barbara Broccoli's heart won't be in it as much as it has been in the Craig era. She clearly adores Craig (much more than she ever adored Pierce) and I'm a bit worried she will be less enthusiastic about the franchise when a new actor playes the role. Fingers crossed that won't be the case.
yes pierce was a good 007 in his time, and he wanted to made gritty movies after. maybe if they send him a good script, could be.
I'd also like a period set Bond film, but I don't even more that would happen.
They want to appeal to the mass general public. Which of course makes good business sense. We would, too, if we were in charge.
What would that mean? What would the general mass audience like?
- Somebody good at martial arts, who is fit - but better if not close to Daniel's exact physical type or fighting style, if possible. I don't want anybody trying to look like his clone.
- Someone who will appeal to men as well as women - and that means natural charisma that comes across on screen.
- Also a confident actor, who can not only portray confidence but who can portray a lot else even without dialog.
- Someone not in their late 50s or older; or who looks like a teenager.
Real charisma is the magic in a bottle that is rare, and good luck to them. I hope they find somebody who is strong in that regard.I'm hoping for a 30 yr old or so, not younger, new Bond. Someone that has not been mentioned yet on the other threads. I just don't care for the names mentioned.
So it is easier for me to say what I don't want the producers to go for:
a) the code name theory (ugh!), b) female Bond (all for similar one started, just not as actually Bond), c) anything veering toward camp, over the top humor, stupid humor, etc. A light touch always welcome, though.
I hope the series starts fresh. A truly great, exciting script is the best starting point I can think of. Nothing to do with Craig's Bond (or the situation NTTD left him in). No need to mention any of that. Just give us a new world of Bond, with an intelligent, charismatic actor who is a good actor, keep MI6 office as is, London at the heart of it, and make it a very high octane adventure that still has moments of thoughtfulness and mystery. But please do not make any MI6 person or family member be a traitor.
Where does Bond go from here? Anywhere with the right script and casting. Well, maybe not outer space.
And they should keep the DB5 - it could be explained way as his aunt Charmian's old car or something, which the Q department has spiced up.
The more I reflect on the Craig era, the more I think the next one should severely tone down the references to previous eras. As fun as the DB5 appearences in CR and SF are it has been overdone and I think they should leave it in the garage for a little bit and spend more time trying to establish new icons for the future. That might be a bit over-ambitious and it can of course go horribly wrong, but I don't think there is anything tactile (meaning not story or plot based) that the Craig era leaves behind for future generations to pick up again. Something like the V8 Vantage appearing in NTTD as a callback to Living Daylights/Dalton just cannot really happen for Craig, because his "hero car" has always been Connery's DB5. I would love it if Bond #35 in 2051 brought back a 2006 Ford Mondeo, but I am probably alone on that one. As beautiful as the DBS V12 is, I don't think people connect it to Craig's Bond the way they do the DB5. I certainly don't.
Dynamite are doing their own thing with Bond, and it’s in a separate medium, I don’t see how it would interfere with IOI.
Of course, there is also the option of Big Finish striking a deal with EON for the licence to produce new audios. Not to the blitzkrieg levels of their Doctor Who output, but new missions for Lazenby, Dalton, Brosnan, and Craig.
Never read the novels, then? :D
I don't think Bond is supposed to be cutting edge: the villains are the people at the cutting edge, Bond is the representative of the status quo and old school. The films even (accidentally I think, through a quirk of choice of direction for Desmond Llewellyn in GF) embraced that with Bond showing distain or at most disinterest towards his high-tech gadgets.
If they followed the books' principle he'd be driving around in a 20 year-old Bentley GT like a Brixton drug dealer :D
It shows that fans as a general rule will always look to the past.
That's not a surprise or a bad thing, they became fans because of what the thing used to be in the past. But it never really says much about the current state of anything.
It's not a bad thing to always look at the past but at the same time it shows a deep alienation from the actual reality. It's sad, I feel bad for them. It's sad to see so many long time fans being so triggered after this Craig run.
And driving a beautiful classic car is much more of 'thing' now than it was when Fleming was writing: back then old cars weren't classics, they were just old and not really worth anything.
It's a good point: Roger is actually probably the most modern man out of all the Bonds (maybe Lazenby), his flat is a little chinzy perhaps but he does have an up to date kitchen complete with coffee machine, digital watches and sliding doors!
I've often thought that if Roger hadn't happened, if they were to announce that Bond will drive a mid-engined, wedge-shaped very modern white Lotus in the next film, fans would go mad and complain that's not Bond's sort of car at all. I probably would too!
Perhaps she could team up with Benoit Blanc...
I personally can't see a spin off from such a small role. More likely to just pull a Maud Adams and get a meatier role in a proper Bond film in the future. Personally wouldn't be against that.
Same. Along with Rosamund Pike.
Spot on. Paloma was tremendous, but it's not a thing that can sustain a movie. A bubbly, inexperienced badass was a great choice for one long scene, but it's not something that would work for two hours.
If/when they bring back SPECTRE - what if it's lead by Irma Bunt? A female arch nemesis for Bond. Would be a nice twist, since he (the character) already has has a female boss.
The question is how much the audience/the filmmaker/the marketing make out of it being a spin-off. There are loads of examples in film history of characters being semi-officially taken into a different project or background characters connecting films or characters played by one actor in multiple films being so similar that people make the connection themselves (f.e. Sean Connery in The Rock).
Bringing it back to the example at hand: I think I would prefer it if someone - probably Amazon-MGM with the implicit blessing of Eon - made a spy action comedy about a female Cuban-American CIA agent played by Ana de Armas. No need to lean into the Bond iconography; no need to include the other background players; no need to harp on the events that unfold after Paloma exits from NTTD; hell, they don't even have to call her Paloma. We can do codename theory 2.0. Just take the great sketch of a character we have now seen and build a good film around it.
The only one I can think of which would work, and I've mentioned before, is The Man With The Golden Gun starring an updated version of Scaramanga as the central character. He can basically be a dark version of Bond, doing the same things as Bond and living in the same heightened world but not quite ripping him off and different enough to justify. Plus he has his own iconography too (and I guess can interact with Spectre etc. as well).
I'm not sure a Bond spinoff can work very well with another spy (especially an MI6 one) because Bond is the only one of those we want to see.
Yeah I like that idea a lot. We do need another female main villain, just for the sake of variety more than anything else.
Mid-1930s I think, but it's not important - I agree with your post and said much the same thing myself.