Where does Bond go after Craig?

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    Stamper wrote: »
    It would actually be a good evolution, to have a living dead Bond who can't be reasoned with, can't be bargained with, and will absolutely not stop, ever, until the enemy is dead.

    Sound like the Kyle Reese monologue to Sarah Connor lol 👍
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    Maybe we should get Fede Alvarez to direct that sort of James Bond.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    To the extent that Craig's era (loosely) adapted Fleming this way:

    CR-MR-YOLT-TB-YOLT/OHMSS

    Say the next actor does three movies, maybe four.

    Perhaps Eon with the next actor could plan ahead to adapt (what's left of, what's still usable of) Fleming in a certain order, combine stories a la FYEO, have some characters carry over, and give the series the feel of a preplanned arc.

    Say:

    MR-LALD/DAF-TMWTGG
  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
    edited November 28 Posts: 2,594
    There might be some clues as to where Bond is going after Craig in these clips ? or maybe not ?


  • edited November 28 Posts: 4,325
    Probably nothing in there to read into unfortunately. Even if the next Bond were in the room as Craig said (which is very possible but not a given) and Bond 26 took ‘risks’ (every new Bond film does to some extent) we won’t know the specifics until much later.
    echo wrote: »
    To the extent that Craig's era (loosely) adapted Fleming this way:

    CR-MR-YOLT-TB-YOLT/OHMSS

    Say the next actor does three movies, maybe four.

    Perhaps Eon with the next actor could plan ahead to adapt (what's left of, what's still usable of) Fleming in a certain order, combine stories a la FYEO, have some characters carry over, and give the series the feel of a preplanned arc.

    Say:

    MR-LALD/DAF-TMWTGG

    At the very least I can see them going back to Fleming and trying to get an idea of where Bond was at as a character during certain points in the novels (ie. He’s much more straight laced in CR and has a little crisis of faith in the Service and becomes more world weary by the end - which could be interesting to see played out, although it’s basically what we got in CR ‘06. You also have MR/DAF where he gains a sense of humour, but becomes much more introspective and even a bit reckless in how he operates as an agent, which is more the sort of characterisation I can see them going for. Maybe even evoke FRWL where he’s bored due to not being on duty for a while and having recently broken up with Tiffany Case).

    I think other than that they’ll use Fleming but not adapt it strictly (and it’s just as well - I don’t think any ‘unused’ book can be faithfully adapted now and so many ideas have been used anyway. I don’t see the point in using ‘what’s left of it’ anyway as if it’s some sort of finite tap and not the source material of a great character that can be revisited and reshaped into something unique every time).
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    Browsing through the last 20 pages to find some actual news about B26, but coming up short. Did I miss any?
  • JustJamesJustJames London
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    I wonder if, given some of the news stories and political elements around the military and their duties of late, that one of the reason for the delay on Bond is that the idea of a ‘license to kill’ operator for the government is a little too… risky, these days.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Zekidk wrote: »
    Browsing through the last 20 pages to find some actual news about B26, but coming up short. Did I miss any?


    Nope…
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Zekidk wrote: »
    Browsing through the last 20 pages to find some actual news about B26, but coming up short. Did I miss any?

    It's been 3 years and 2 months, but EON is still waiting to give us any actual news unfortunately.
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
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    JustJames wrote: »
    I wonder if, given some of the news stories and political elements around the military and their duties of late, that one of the reason for the delay on Bond is that the idea of a ‘license to kill’ operator for the government is a little too… risky, these days.

    Without wading into a political discussion, I've been thinking the same thing. And if truth be known, this is something that I've wondered about for the last 15 years or so.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,288
    It's up to EON then to make spying sexy again, with emphasis on the adventure and not too much on politics.
  • MaxCasino wrote: »
    What about a Silva prequel?

    I like it. But I’d prefer it as a book. Plus, I have some ideas written down on a modern day Alec Trevelyan origin story. Before he turns bad. [/quot

    Do your ideas on Trevelyan explain how his accent varies from Yorkshire to upper class? Ie Blaw them ta ell James to Closing time James. last call!
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    He couldn't keep his head about him.
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    talos7 wrote: »
    Zekidk wrote: »
    Browsing through the last 20 pages to find some actual news about B26, but coming up short. Did I miss any?

    Nope…
    Okay. I'll check back in 5 years time. See you on page 3788.
  • TuxedoTuxedo Europe
    Posts: 262
    Zekidk wrote: »
    Browsing through the last 20 pages to find some actual news about B26, but coming up short. Did I miss any?

    It's been 3 years and 2 months, but EON is still waiting to give us any actual news unfortunately.

    So what?
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Currently, MI6 are struggling to find Gen Z recruits, so expect Bond to be busier. More paperwork and tasks around the office. Sweeping floors, coffee runs etc.
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Being chauffeured by Tibbett
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    QBranch wrote: »
    Currently, MI6 are struggling to find Gen Z recruits, so expect Bond to be busier. More paperwork and tasks around the office. Sweeping floors, coffee runs etc.

    I heard he's also doubling up his time as a security guard at Harrods.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    Maybe he could be driving Uber on the side, if MI6 don't have enough spying for him to do.
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    Well, it’s Bond. For all we know his side hustle could be an Only Fans…

    Anyway, I doubt there’s anything political about Bond holding them back to be honest.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Dwayne wrote: »
    JustJames wrote: »
    I wonder if, given some of the news stories and political elements around the military and their duties of late, that one of the reason for the delay on Bond is that the idea of a ‘license to kill’ operator for the government is a little too… risky, these days.

    Without wading into a political discussion, I've been thinking the same thing. And if truth be known, this is something that I've wondered about for the last 15 years or so.
    007HallY wrote: »
    Well, it’s Bond. For all we know his side hustle could be an Only Fans…

    Anyway, I doubt there’s anything political about Bond holding them back to be honest.

    Well, either Purvis or Wade said writing Bond was tough because how much the Bond-Villain has become a reality with Trump and Putin alone. I don't know what to say to that. Other than that it proves that it may be time to move on from them. Bond can be (and often is) always a response to real-life threats. It depends how much EON wants to use satire to prove it.
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    What about a Silva prequel?

    I like it. But I’d prefer it as a book. Plus, I have some ideas written down on a modern day Alec Trevelyan origin story. Before he turns bad. [/quot

    Do your ideas on Trevelyan explain how his accent varies from Yorkshire to upper class? Ie Blaw them ta ell James to Closing time James. last call!

    Didn't think about it, honestly! I would go into more detail about it, but I like to write in private! It would be about him starting truly good, then slowly turning bad. Bond would be between a supporting character, but more than a cameo. It could end of course with a sequel tease. Preferably by another author than me. I try to focus on one main character at a time (particularly with Bond villains and stories).
    QBranch wrote: »
    Currently, MI6 are struggling to find Gen Z recruits, so expect Bond to be busier. More paperwork and tasks around the office. Sweeping floors, coffee runs etc.

    To paraphrase Deadpool in D & W: Gen Z is always acting traumatized, and doesn't want to work! It is a stereotype that seems to be becoming true. And in some ways, I don't blame them.
    Tuxedo wrote: »
    Zekidk wrote: »
    Browsing through the last 20 pages to find some actual news about B26, but coming up short. Did I miss any?

    It's been 3 years and 2 months, but EON is still waiting to give us any actual news unfortunately.

    So what?

    There are more important things going on in the world, @Mendes4Lyfe our fandom is truly lucky to have as much as we do. In particular compared to other people who are barely surviving in life in more ways in life. Happy Thanksgiving from the United States, by the way!
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited November 29 Posts: 6,403
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Dwayne wrote: »
    JustJames wrote: »
    I wonder if, given some of the news stories and political elements around the military and their duties of late, that one of the reason for the delay on Bond is that the idea of a ‘license to kill’ operator for the government is a little too… risky, these days.

    Without wading into a political discussion, I've been thinking the same thing. And if truth be known, this is something that I've wondered about for the last 15 years or so.
    007HallY wrote: »
    Well, it’s Bond. For all we know his side hustle could be an Only Fans…

    Anyway, I doubt there’s anything political about Bond holding them back to be honest.

    Well, either Purvis or Wade said writing Bond was tough because how much the Bond-Villain has become a reality with Trump and Putin alone. I don't know what to say to that. Other than that it proves that it may be time to move on from them. Bond can be (and often is) always a response to real-life threats. It depends how much EON wants to use satire to prove it.
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    What about a Silva prequel?

    I like it. But I’d prefer it as a book. Plus, I have some ideas written down on a modern day Alec Trevelyan origin story. Before he turns bad. [/quot

    Do your ideas on Trevelyan explain how his accent varies from Yorkshire to upper class? Ie Blaw them ta ell James to Closing time James. last call!

    Didn't think about it, honestly! I would go into more detail about it, but I like to write in private! It would be about him starting truly good, then slowly turning bad. Bond would be between a supporting character, but more than a cameo. It could end of course with a sequel tease. Preferably by another author than me. I try to focus on one main character at a time (particularly with Bond villains and stories).
    QBranch wrote: »
    Currently, MI6 are struggling to find Gen Z recruits, so expect Bond to be busier. More paperwork and tasks around the office. Sweeping floors, coffee runs etc.

    To paraphrase Deadpool in D & W: Gen Z is always acting traumatized, and doesn't want to work! It is a stereotype that seems to be becoming true. And in some ways, I don't blame them.
    Tuxedo wrote: »
    Zekidk wrote: »
    Browsing through the last 20 pages to find some actual news about B26, but coming up short. Did I miss any?

    It's been 3 years and 2 months, but EON is still waiting to give us any actual news unfortunately.

    So what?

    There are more important things going on in the world, @Mendes4Lyfe our fandom is truly lucky to have as much as we do. In particular compared to other people who are barely surviving in life in more ways in life. Happy Thanksgiving from the United States, by the way!

    The once-and-future leader of the US does have a whiff of Drax and especially Krest about him, and Putin is clearly Orlov. P&W were not wrong.

    CR was such a hard and bold course correction away from DAD and the rapidly diminishing returns of the Brosnan era. There were real stakes for Bond for the first time in a long time. And even for those who didn't love SP and NTTD, there were very real stakes there too.

    I don't see Eon veering too much from this direction with Bond #7. Just a younger version of it.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yes, I don't imagine B26 will be as big a course correction as it was from DAD, I suspect the tone will not vary that much.
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    mtm wrote: »
    Yes, I don't imagine B26 will be as big a course correction as it was from DAD, I suspect the tone will not vary that much.

    There has to be some update. Skyfall premiered 12 years ago.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    mtm wrote: »
    Yes, I don't imagine B26 will be as big a course correction as it was from DAD, I suspect the tone will not vary that much.

    There has to be some update. Skyfall premiered 12 years ago.

    I don't think he was talking about an update. It was more about Bond 26's direction.
  • JustJamesJustJames London
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    Dwayne wrote: »
    JustJames wrote: »
    I wonder if, given some of the news stories and political elements around the military and their duties of late, that one of the reason for the delay on Bond is that the idea of a ‘license to kill’ operator for the government is a little too… risky, these days.

    Without wading into a political discussion, I've been thinking the same thing. And if truth be known, this is something that I've wondered about for the last 15 years or so.

    It’s not the party politics situation, and certainly not US politics at all, it’s just the stories about special forces essentially… well, allegedly ‘taking no prisoners’ due to the legal and political ramifications. And that having been put in that position, the powers-that-be are then less than supportive of the serving forces after the event.
    For Bond to stay “realistic” and be a double O, licensed to kill, might not fly so well. (Though it’s arguably something they have danced around the edges of for a while. I don’t think we want a Bond courtroom drama, no matter how much people liked Skyfall and it’s middle scenes.)

    It would be a bit like putting out a Police Academy film in the middle of the ‘Defund The Police’ fracas a few years back.
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    mtm wrote: »
    Yes, I don't imagine B26 will be as big a course correction as it was from DAD, I suspect the tone will not vary that much.

    There has to be some update. Skyfall premiered 12 years ago.

    I don't think he was talking about an update. It was more about Bond 26's direction.

    I mean that too. The Craig's formula is dry at this point.
  • edited November 29 Posts: 4,325
    mtm wrote: »
    Yes, I don't imagine B26 will be as big a course correction as it was from DAD, I suspect the tone will not vary that much.

    The thing about NTTD is that it has such a spectrum of tone/ideas (ranging from dark/fatalistic to fantastical to moments of humour you’d expect in the Brosnan/Moore eras) that short of something radical one way or the other there’ll be some resemblance to it in Bond 26.

    But ultimately yes, I don’t think Bond 26 will be a hard course correction film like CR or DAF. Those are quite unique Bond films anyway, and usually new eras carry something over from the previous ones. And ultimately EON tend to revisit broad ideas so I’m sure there’ll be something recognisable from the Craig/Brosnan eras in there (and honestly, it’s really only fans that’ll complain about this if they do have issue with it).
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    mtm wrote: »
    Yes, I don't imagine B26 will be as big a course correction as it was from DAD, I suspect the tone will not vary that much.

    There has to be some update. Skyfall premiered 12 years ago.

    I don't think he was talking about an update. It was more about Bond 26's direction.

    I mean that too. The Craig's formula is dry at this point.

    Ok. Yeah, we're all waiting to see. But there's still a possibility that traits of Craig's Bond would be in Bond 26. I don't think Bond 7 would be radically different...even if he would bring his own take.
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    What even is ‘the Craig formula’ out of interest?
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