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What?
No. How is that even relevant?
Weren't the people who started the CraigNotBond sites, etc, ultimately proved wrong as DC and his films had massive financial and critical success? You sure that's the comparison you're looking to make here?
To Amazon, evidently…
It seems the little guy dug her/his heels in.
The monolith threw all kinds of threats of lawsuits, then, they sat back, put their feet up on their desk, and waited.
The little guy tried to fight, but the fight was already over; the Wall St Journal article didn’t move the needle, lawyers talk about fighting yourself into ruin, then—
EoN had little choice but to wave the white flag.
As some sources have been dropping to the recent Deadline article: the fights were a losing battle, and Amazon has money and time.
Very sad day, indeed.
Or, I would have made this face:
While I’m glad to see you back on the site, I wish it was under better circumstances @peter
And for those of us who live in the real world..................everyone has their price.
A new Bond film… two years in the making… a special event. The anticipation builds with the first trailer, the theme song, an early release of the score. Securing tickets for the premiere at our local theater, barely sleeping the nights before. That’s what Bond fandom was to me growing up. Even as the pace slowed in recent years, it still felt big—an occasion, a red-carpet affair with tuxedos and fancy drinks.
But what will it be now? "Oh, they dropped the second half of season three of The Young Bond Files today. Yeah, I’ll probably watch it at some point—maybe next week, or next month, when I’m in the right mood for it."
Maybe I’m being cynical, but that’s exactly how I, as a Star Wars fan, have been treating the Disney+ series—with reserved enthusiasm. It’s just… not the same.
@DarthDimi at least we have the Disney buying Star Wars example to go by. Everyone has their expectations appropriately reined in, because we know what is likely to happen (not saying it necessarily will). Imagine if we were going in blind, with our expectations that things will go well, or even reach new heights. That would be soul-crushing if things do go south fast.
The Disney/Star Wars gave us the Mandalorian. Good to go.
@DarthDimi I think this is called getting old ;)
A level of this is inevitable, but just look at how badly received Disney's TV spin offs have been received. 2 good Mandolorian series, and (apparently) Andor. The rest is a big red flag to people like Amazon looking on in. Same with Disney and the MCU. The early MCU TV shows had some quality about them - it should have ended way sooner, but Agents of Shield was good fun - but then they spaffed it up the wall with pretty much everything else.
I hope that while they are Amazon in name, there is still SOME amount of proper film-makers wanting to work at a name like MGM to see this and have some ideas outside of Disney copy-and-paste.
I would take the occasional offshoot, barely-relevant spin off TV shows for some more regular movies to get excited about. I can ignore the TV shows like I do with Star Wars. I can ignore the odd film too if they are terrible (*I will not start a DAD rant. I will not start a DAD rant. I will not start a DAD rant.*), I'd just like some to be made to at least find out! And when they are, I will still be excited the night before, after grabbing my tickets as early as possible. It will still be an occasion for me - not the same as it was for my early Bond cinematic experiences in the Brosnan era, but then again, I'm getting old as well ;)
I mean the CraigNotBond folks didn't have a leg to stand on once he became the highest grossing Bond ever. But you'll still come across those who claim the series ended in 2002. More often than you think.
“My respect, admiration and love for Barbara and Michael remain constant and undiminished. I wish Michael a long, relaxing (and well deserved) retirement and whatever ventures Barbara goes on to do, I know they will be spectacular and I hope I can be part of them.”
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/daniel-craig-amazon-james-bond-takeover-1236314500/
Hi, @peter!
I agree with you. I think Barbara Broccoli tried, and fought hard, but the odds were stacked against her.
Losing her second-best creative partner, Craig as Bond, likely took a lot out of her. Then her best creative partner retired.
Amazon just has more money and lawyers and time on its side.
I don't see a way to spin this as good news for Bond fans. "Content" does not equal creativity.
I think we need to try to be optimistic at least though it's out of everyone's control it's reality now and people are just going to have to just accept it and hope for the best.
Pretty much how I feel, with all three of you have said.
I think the deadline article mentioned that Jennifer Salke would he heading the creative side of Bond going forward.
That's from the first Deadline article. Salke isn't mentioned in that article, or their exclusive breaking the $1 billion figure. Valenti and Stuber are the names mentioned by Deadline, but that reads just like speculation based on an org chart on not actual reporting. The second piece does mention that they would be looking for "the right executive to steer Bond in Kevin Feige-fashion at Amazon MGM Studios".
Yeah I would think anyone on the Amazon side at the moment would be in a distanced executive role, not a hands-on creative.
Out of these two I guess I'd rather have Valenti... although I'd be cautious of either handling Bond based on what they've done in the past if I'm honest. Not outright worried (yet anyway), but cautious.
This!
Probably theatrereleases every 2-3 years and then to streaming 45 days later where it can sit in Prime's Bond library amongst the many spin-offs that went straight to streaming. "The adventures of Nick Nack", "Jaws versus Batman", the sitcom "The Blofelds" etc...
He’s too unserious of a director. I really disliked how he turned UNCLE into a pop song infused 60s romp instead of an earnest spy thriller. I don’t want to see Bond turn into that.
But he did capture the tone and style of UNCLE, which is not the same as Bond, unless you are including the song infested pop romp of Moonraker.
Notice Amazon mentioned Feige instead of the Broccoli's regarding what kind of producer they are looking for. Having worked with Feige directly, that is not a bad thing. I will say that ever since Casino Royale Eon's story chops have been rather uneven.