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  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    I don’t think ‘the old guard’ are going to have such an impact on the next Bond film as some people think.
    I have a feeling the next Bond adventure is going to look a lot different to what us Bond fans are used too.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited March 16 Posts: 8,719
    Amazon have had a stake in Bond since 2021, and in the past 3 years all they got was a crummy reality show. When you hear that Jeff said "just get rid of her" and the apparent celebrations at Amazon HQ when Babs agreed to quit "like we'd won a war", I suppose that signals that the frustrations about not taking advantage of the license have been around for along time. Come what may, I think we'll be getting Bond 26 sooner than expected. As recently as 25 years ago 2 years was considered standard between films, and if the deal is finalised in May that gives another 2 years and 7 months until 2028, more than enough time for a behemoth like Amazon to get to work.
  • 007HallY007HallY
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    It depends, but assuming they have to wait until May, two and a half years to develop a film seemingly from scratch, cast a new Bond, make it, and then find a suitable release date for it (all after securing the producers and talent who’ll continue this franchise on a long term basis) isn’t inherently easy for a big movie. It’s not impossible either, but just developing a script takes time.

    I can see Amazon attempting to go quickly, but for reference when Star Wars was taken over by Disney they started work immediately and that took 3 years and two months from the deal with Lucas being finalised to the film’s release. Perhaps they could scale things down for Bond/strip it back, or really go safe by using the broad story template of an existing film (which is not unusual and all Bond films do to some extent, but even then they need something fresh).
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,719
    007HallY wrote: »
    It depends, but assuming they have to wait until May, two and a half years to develop a film seemingly from scratch, cast a new Bond, make it, and then find a suitable release date for it (all after securing the producers and talent who’ll continue this franchise on a long term basis)

    But these don't happen sequentially. They can find a release date while production is underway, as is common practice, and they can be hiring talent in conjunction with developing a script. It's extremely rare to find a case where they only move into the next aspect once the current one is 100% completed.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    Posts: 3,243
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    apparent celebrations at Amazon HQ when Babs agreed to quit "like we'd won a war"
    While at EON, the news was met like there'd been 'a death in the family'. Have to say, my reaction was more like the latter than the former. Celebrate the removal of the people who gave us CR? Not me.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited March 16 Posts: 2,333
    I think Amazon must watch all of EON's 25 Bond films again and analyze it deeply. Then read all of Fleming's novels and do the same. Because I remember Paul Epworth saying he had to watch the first 13 Bond films to get the Bond sound, so he could produce Skyfall with Adele. So Amazon simply have to do something like that...to succeed.
  • 007ClassicBondFan007ClassicBondFan
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    SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ wrote: »
    I think Amazon must watch all of EON's 25 Bond films again and analyze it deeply. Then read all of Fleming's novels and do the same. Because I remember Paul Epworth saying he had to watch the first 13 Bond films to get the Bond sound, so he could produce Skyfall with Adele. So Amazon simply have to do something like that...to succeed.

    The question is will they? Wasn’t it Jennifer Salke who was mentioned as having not a single Bond film pre-Craig?
  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited March 16 Posts: 4,776
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    It depends, but assuming they have to wait until May, two and a half years to develop a film seemingly from scratch, cast a new Bond, make it, and then find a suitable release date for it (all after securing the producers and talent who’ll continue this franchise on a long term basis)

    But these don't happen sequentially. They can find a release date while production is underway, as is common practice, and they can be hiring talent in conjunction with developing a script. It's extremely rare to find a case where they only move into the next aspect once the current one is 100% completed.

    Not wrong, at least for the release date. I lumped everything in together in my paragraph. But it may well be the case that the best release date is outside that 2.5 year window anyway, and of course they need to get certain things in line before committing to it.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 2,333
    007ClassicBondFan wrote: »
    SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ wrote: »
    I think Amazon must watch all of EON's 25 Bond films again and analyze it deeply. Then read all of Fleming's novels and do the same. Because I remember Paul Epworth saying he had to watch the first 13 Bond films to get the Bond sound, so he could produce Skyfall with Adele. So Amazon simply have to do something like that...to succeed.

    The question is will they? Wasn’t it Jennifer Salke who was mentioned as having not a single Bond film pre-Craig?

    Oh, I think they must. They simply have to. They're now in charge of a huge name. Everyone around the world knows James Bond...even casual fans. So it's not something Amazon can just toy with. I think they're very much aware of that, because they must have read the negative reviews, concerning their take-over of 007.
  • 007ClassicBondFan007ClassicBondFan
    Posts: 2,417
    SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ wrote: »
    007ClassicBondFan wrote: »
    SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ wrote: »
    I think Amazon must watch all of EON's 25 Bond films again and analyze it deeply. Then read all of Fleming's novels and do the same. Because I remember Paul Epworth saying he had to watch the first 13 Bond films to get the Bond sound, so he could produce Skyfall with Adele. So Amazon simply have to do something like that...to succeed.

    The question is will they? Wasn’t it Jennifer Salke who was mentioned as having not a single Bond film pre-Craig?

    Oh, I think they must. They simply have to. They're now in charge of a huge name. Everyone around the world knows James Bond...even casual fans. So it's not something Amazon can just toy with. I think they're very much aware of that, because they must have read the negative reviews, concerning their take-over of 007.

    I agree that they must - I’m just not feeling super optimistic. I think the Bond brand has the potential to go the way of Marvel/Star Wars by way of over-saturation if Amazon exploits it in the way we all suspect - and that’ll be a sad day for me.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited March 16 Posts: 2,333
    007ClassicBondFan wrote: »
    SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ wrote: »
    007ClassicBondFan wrote: »
    SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ wrote: »
    I think Amazon must watch all of EON's 25 Bond films again and analyze it deeply. Then read all of Fleming's novels and do the same. Because I remember Paul Epworth saying he had to watch the first 13 Bond films to get the Bond sound, so he could produce Skyfall with Adele. So Amazon simply have to do something like that...to succeed.

    The question is will they? Wasn’t it Jennifer Salke who was mentioned as having not a single Bond film pre-Craig?

    Oh, I think they must. They simply have to. They're now in charge of a huge name. Everyone around the world knows James Bond...even casual fans. So it's not something Amazon can just toy with. I think they're very much aware of that, because they must have read the negative reviews, concerning their take-over of 007.

    I agree that they must - I’m just not feeling super optimistic. I think the Bond brand has the potential to go the way of Marvel/Star Wars by way of over-saturation if Amazon exploits it in the way we all suspect - and that’ll be a sad day for me.

    Yeah. That's true. But I'm just trying to stay optimistic. Because surely, Amazon wouldn't want to prove us right, because they already know we don't expect good Bond outputs from them. So I'm banking on them to prove us wrong. If Bond 26 makes us cheer loud, that means they've succeeded...and I hope that's the case.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    At this point I don’t really have expectations for what Amazon will do. It could really go either way.
  • delfloriadelfloria
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    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    At this point I don’t really have expectations for what Amazon will do. It could really go either way.

    Or a dozen different ways.
  • CrabKeyCrabKey
    Posts: 2,154
    Amazon: "Alright, we're going to do this, make Bond 26."

    How does that first conversation go?
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    Posts: 8,401
    “Remake GoldenEye”
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Being chauffeured by Tibbett
    edited 1:52am Posts: 725
    "...but set in the 50s or 60s and starring Henry Cavill."
  • CrabKeyCrabKey
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    I would love to see a ridiculously enjoyable Bond film with an immediately likable Bond. That may have been the idea behind Brosnan, but that didn't work for me. He seemed to work too hard at being Bond. Nor am I looking for an RM repeat. But neither am I looking for an actor already identified with a role. Could there be an unknown or little known actor out there who could easily slip into the role who oozes wit, style, danger, and charm? I've got to think so. Whether EON was involved or not, it was all going to be brand new, so let's get this party started. I am ready for Bond 26, Back in Action.
  • delfloriadelfloria
    edited 9:11am Posts: 1,917
    CrabKey wrote: »
    I would love to see a ridiculously enjoyable Bond film with an immediately likable Bond. That may have been the idea behind Brosnan, but that didn't work for me. He seemed to work too hard at being Bond. Nor am I looking for an RM repeat. But neither am I looking for an actor already identified with a role. Could there be an unknown or little known actor out there who could easily slip into the role who oozes wit, style, danger, and charm? I've got to think so. Whether EON was involved or not, it was all going to be brand new, so let's get this party started. I am ready for Bond 26, Back in Action.

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