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So, avoiding some totally static, silent plants then. I just don't think it's all that thrilling to see some nettles that you can just walk around. I avoid nettles regularly.
It was perfectly fine in the film, it worked as a character note on Safin and that he's the type of guy who has a poison garden, but it's not a source of tension.
Yeah sorry, I read the F&F list wrong there, not sure how I saw that. Personally I think they're trash with video game stunts, I'd prefer Bond to aim higher than that.
I don't think you can write off the SW being unpopular with having nothing to do with the short schedule though, and I've never heard the producers say they didn't like the material.
Fair point with the Avengers films, that is a decent comparison.
glad i am not the only one hoping for Hardy
I hope not lol Hardy would be so awesome
Either one would be fantastic. But yes, I love the cinematography of Roger Deakins.
Now THAT's where the series should go next!!!!
Just kidding, carry on...............
Glad you liked it. Unfortunately I didn't.
I wouldn’t say I particularly liked it or disliked it, it just met my expectations of what a garden in a film would do.
The whole Star Wars new trilogy is a nest of vipers that would take too long to get into it, but let's say Kathleen Kennedy's total disregard of Lucas's original screen treatments for the new SW trilogy being binned in 2014 and the decanonisation of all the Lucas-approved Star Wars books, comics and cartoons before the kickstart of the new Disney trilogy, certainly points to Kennedy and co not liking their source material. I guess the fan backlash speaks for itself.
Again, it's not about quality versus tighter release dates, as the Bond movies are still made and written within the same time period as if their long hiatus didn't exist. I can only think of two or perhaps three occasions where the long interruptions were put to good use for further story development—those being TSWLM, GE and latterly CR.
Eon have had almost 40 years to get used to not having any more Fleming books to adapt to the big screen, so it really shouldn't be trotted out as an excuse in 2021.
On another note, I'm willing to bet that Eon were using their downtime between SP and NTTD on a new reboot with another actor, and most of their work is already done.
It's for another thread, but Kennedy had been working with Lucas since before most people commenting on this stuff were born- I don't really accept that she doesn't respect for him or his work. There's way too much character assassination stuff out there about her and I don't really listen to it.
Yes, that's a fair point; they certainly don't seem to get straight back on it but I assume there are other things they're doing with managing Eon, I don't know. Slightly odd that there's still no sign on Ms Broccoli being a director of any sort Bond 26 Ltd on Companies House yet- they usually seem to open the companies pretty much before the release of the previous film.
Back to Bond 26. I don't believe for a minute that they haven't discussed Bond going forwards without Craig until now. All that "we're not thinking of a new Bond until next year" is just to get the media to focus squarely on promoting NTTD and not get too distracted. Anyway, a little birdy tells me they already have an idea who the next actor will be.
PS. I love @ToTheRight's comical suggestion with The Adventures of Andrew and Monique Bond. Bravo, dear sir.
I must add, I think the new Bond should return to Las Vegas for his casino scene. It would be a nice little update on the DAF connections.
I agree there’s a lot left to mine from the books, but I think that aspect of Fleming’s Bond we were discussing (someone who always follows orders, has faith in the establishment) is probably a thing of the past. I think they’ve updated it well. Bond still has his St George, British bulldog spirit. But his government doesn’t always share it, because people don’t have that kind of faith in them in anymore.
I do think we’re unlikely to ever see Bond saving Viv from rape though. I think that’s too dark for a blockbuster today, and it’s potentially problematic, since Bond is at its core a male power fantasy, and Viv wouldn’t be anywhere near as fleshed out as in the novel (they’re never going to devote a whole film to the girl’s life and perspective like Fleming did). Depictions of sexual assault tend to be a lot more sensitive now, and it’s not something you usually see in escapist action films. Can’t see it happening personally.
Yeah I wonder if they went ahead at all with developing thoughts about a new Bond for B25 after it seemed like Craig had had enough with Spectre. Seems like he was pretty serious about being done: did they spend their energies courting him or did they prepare for a new direction? I guess it depends when he agreed to come back: we only know when he announced it I think.
Plus I'm sure you're right about them having a bit of an idea about the next actor: Ms Broccoli is so across the British film industry (BAFTA Vice President) and theatre that it would be hard to imagine she doesn't have her eyes open constantly.
[laughs in Quantum of Solace]
I had completely forgotten that to be fair. But I think it’s a little different, since Camille is trying to kill Medrano, and then manages to later on. It’s her subplot that Bond isn’t all that involved in. I think that’s a bit different to TSWLM, where Bond just suddenly turns up and saves the vulnerable damsel in distress.
2008 was a while ago too, and I think they’ll probably avoid going anywhere like that altogether now (especially since they seem to be gradually veering towards a lighter direction again).
We got a pseudo-adaptation of Viv's story in QoS, kind of split between Oona and Camille, with a dash of Gala.
I seriously hope so. That would give me great comfort. I'd been honestly feeling they neglected Bond during those years to focus on other projects, and might do so again.
And a new Bond would undoubtedly find his own Vesper/Tracy/Madeleine. It's inevitable.
I'm looking forward to a fresh take, preferably with all new actors.
1) Just do a usual 'new Bond' (e.g. Moore, Dalton, Brosnan) where the new guy is basically the same guy, but different etc... All the supporting cast are mostly still there, but you have a new arc (I don't think this is possible given the ending of NTTD, though it would have been my preference prior to the last 10 minutes)
2) Do a complete reboot a bit like Casino Royale. Basically a new cast. You go hard on this new approach and try to give the new guy an 'arc' like Craig had. You probably avoid the more 'origin story' elements of Casino Royale, but essentially this is James Bond with no overlap with Craig's Bond. CR carried over Judi Dench's M, and you could probably get away with something like keeping Whishaw or Harris, but probably only one. (I like the supporting cast, so not a fan of this approach, but I feel like it's the only way you can keep doing an actual James Bond film).
3) You take everything from Craig's Bond as cannon, the next film is a new era but also a direct sequel. James Bond is dead. You carry on the whole 007 thing, maybe it's Lashana Lynch, maybe it's her and a new 007 (who will effectively be seen as the new 'Bond'), it's just a number etc... but he isn't James Bond. Maybe they give a new guy James Bond as a codename or something, whatever, it still isn't him. (Whilst interesting, not sure how I feel about that, would be strange, but maybe it's the best of the options available).
I feel the decision will probably come down to the director/actor they get for the next film(s).
If you can tie a Nolan or a Villeneuve to 2-3 films, maybe you let them do a reboot and start from scratch again i.e. 'option 2'. If not, you build on the successes of the Craig era with an 'option 3' (Ana de Armas, Lashana Lynch, Naomi Harris plus a new guy could have a decent bit of a potential and work really well, it just would feel a bit strange).
Nr 3 is not an option and will never happen. It's not a series about MI6 or the nr 007. It is a series about the character James Bond.