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I think that's a cool idea, but sounds very much like the personal/dramatic side of things which fans seem to keep saying they don't want.
While Bond has always had one foot in the future, an iteration of Bond set definitively in the future of 20-30 years from now (with those ever elusive flying cars and everything) could be an interesting way to shake things up. SPECTRE as a multinational sounds a bit like LexCorp, but I could see it. I like the spookiness of a future where the SPECTRE logo truly is "everywhere" as Mr. White would say—on cellphones, in store windows, in commercials playing on the subway. Even Austin Powers had Dr. Evil's organization branch out into so-called legitimate business schemes while he was in cryo. I'm a little surprised we haven't had the head of a fictional multinational as a Bond villain yet. The closest we've come to that was Elliot Carver, and that was a good 25 years ago.
I had forgotten this completely but vaguely recall it now. You may have something here after all!
Not if they stick to the mission. Maybe a little insight into younger Bond. The connection between the villain and Bond need not be overtly deep and personal. Just one that got away.
I’m mining it for my own creative project. ;)
I think it could work in any time period myself, but there was something cool about how WW2 loomed over the novels. All those different backstories for all those different bad guys, and Bond himself, all rooted in the same conflict.
But yeah, they’re the only ways I can see it working. Either cutting back and forth, or do it as another origin story (maybe the villain gets away, killing a few of Bond’s unit in the process, and he could persuade MI6 to recruit him and send him after him by witholding intel, or something?). I don’t think a whole film focused on the military angle would work. Just wouldn’t feel very Bond.
Yeah it’d be very different, but I do quite like the idea. They’d have more freedom than a historical setting, so even though it’s not set now, they could still easily make it feel timely and relevant. I like the SPECTRE corporate dystopia angle too, that could work. It’s weird really. We’re in the age of the billionaire. The wealth, excess and sci-fi gadgets of the super rich has genuinely gotten to Bond villains levels, and big business types are as common targets in films now as they were in the 80s, but Bond hasn’t gone there for a while. It’s been creepy psychos with remote hidden lairs for a few films now. So, it’d be nice to have a baddy like that again.
Taking that idea and applying it to a modern setting, maybe a story based on those doomsday climate change bunkers tech billionaires have in New Zealand? Building robot armies, using disciplinary collars to keep the armed guards in line, these are all very Bond villain suggestions that they’ve actually made
https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/23/tech-industry-wealth-futurism-transhumanism-singularity
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/feb/15/why-silicon-valley-billionaires-are-prepping-for-the-apocalypse-in-new-zealand
Maybe some cabal of super rich attempts to bring about an apocalyptic event early, to get the upper hand and literally take over what’s left of the world in the aftermath? Although that sounds a bit too similar to Kingsman now that I think about it.
Or going back to the future setting, if they wanted to go really big and bold with it, a new World War? Or the closest thing possible without a nuclear apocalypse happening. We haven’t seen Bond do any sort of war time espionage before, and doing that in the future could work as well as in World War 2.
I'd love that! Actually, TBH, setting it during WWII would be the MAIN reason I'd be interested in seeing a young Bond Navy era story.
Why does everyone thinks Cavill is not a good actor ? Because he never had an Oscar role ? He has a real screen presence and plays well.
I like that, yeah.
It's kind of hard to see how that couldn't be personal, though. Or if it isn't, what the point of doing it would be. Bond just being mildly frustrated he failed to catch the baddie the first time would seem a bit underwhelming.
He's wooden. An Oscar doesn't equate to good acting, or a good anything. I don't think "everyone" thinks Cavill isn't a good actor; I don't think he's a great actor because he isn't engaging. YMMV.
Because Cavill is horrible. At acting. No, really. He is.
https://www.eliteukforces.info/rumours/the-increment.php
For myself I can say I’ve only said he was wooden.
It’s not directed towards you, just towards the criticisms that I’ve seen from people on the Internet about Cavil’s acting abilities. I understand some people not liking him, but I can’t bring myself to agree with the criticisms of his acting. He’s put in good performances in the work I’ve seen him in, so this split opinion about his range of abilities just don’t hold much merit in my eyes.
I suppose I can meet you halfway and say that he's serviced the character's he's played adequately.
And in fairness, my pick Luke Evans hasn't been in too terribly much, and so hasn't had much of the chance to really stretch his acting muscles either.
I think part of why I go after Cavill is because he seems so ahead in the race of public opinion for "Next Bond", that if they end up going with him I'll be very disappointed because it seems so safe.
Fair enough, I get sick of hearing the likes of Cavil and Elba mentioned constantly, alongside Hardy, Hiddleston, etc... They’re too big names, and I say this as someone who likes those actors.
I don’t have a choice honestly, I just put my faith in EON, that way I can’t be disappointed or upset if it’s not someone who I want in the role, and although Craig has been the only Bond that’s been cast in the role during my lifetime (born in 97), I’m just naturally trusting of EON since they’ve done this for decades now.
Disagree on Snyder. Thought he was great with directing his stars, just his vision of the DC Universe isn’t one that gels with what should be done for a cinematic universe, and I say that as someone who loves his DCEU films.
The biography of Craig’s Bomd had him working at Defence Intelligence, which is sort of the military’s version of the secret service, so could be a good mid-point.
Intro to the new Bond is from TSWLM, rescuing Viv Michel from 2 gangsters in a motel, who are connected to the Spangled Mob. Back in London, Bond then gets introduced to a high ranking political figure who is corrupt, and associated with the gang via a game of cards at Blades by M, who suspects he is cheating (MR).
Bond then gets sent on an undercover mission as Mark Hazard to infiltrate their gang, with Pistols S (or someone similar) being their deadly hitman (DAF/TMWTGG). Loads of stuff can then be used from these books, including whorehouse intros, mud spa deaths, horse racing, Brooklyn stomping (DAF and TMWTGG), and the staged railway train finale, which appears in both books coincidentally.
If Babs wants to tick boxes and keep things right on PC correct, turn Kidd and Wint into 2 female lesbian killers. That's 2 boxes ticked right there (strong women, and lesbians). Make one of them black, and it's a third box ticked (now more resembling Bambi and Thumper).
Keep it tough, violent, edgy, hardcore. No more family angst crap or retcon garbage. Just Fleming and gangsters! This way they've used up all the best unused Fleming remaining scenes in one go, and given a different direction too for the next actor.
EON, you are welcome. Job done!
Also, I want Maggie Q in a Bond movie, in any capacity. But I was thinking of as an ally.
Great read and I agree that those are good ideas for B26.
Thanks. This would be my dream Bond film, and harkens back to the tougher, violent Bond films like LTK and CR.
I am wondering about the gangster aspect.
On the one hand, after a shadowy, almost state-like cabal of basically terrorists (SPECTRE/Quantum) and guys who are mainly out for personal revenge (Silva and Safin) they could return to a slightly more pedestrian (if that's the right word) villain who just really wants money and power. I am not against that.
But on the other hand, I don't really know what organized crime looks like nowadays and how do we get Bond involved.
What I mean by that is that I basically think of the Spangled Mob from the 50s or something out of the Godfather, when I hear the word "gangster". That doesn't really exist anymore, does it? So what's in that place and does that still work similar enough that you could just take the Spangled Mob and easily transfer it? I just don't know.
Plus, the part about involving MI6/Bond. What's the rationale for that in DAF? I can't recall at the moment. If it's something about colonies, or UK foreign dividends, that wouldn't really work anymore would it? I like the idea of a politician being involved or something like that, but again, why MI6 and not 5 or the police?
Those aren't hard things to overcome, but just transposing the Spangled Mob from 1956 might not be enough.