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Thing is Moore bowed out because of his age, making the point that he himself figured enough was enough. Personally I really love AVTAK, but that's another matter, I can understand why it lets people down. Still, I don't think it's Moore's worst, I think Moonraker is. So, things aren't that cut and dried after all.
It's true MR does get very near the bottom in lot of lists.
But also very high.
My personal bottom Moore is TMWTGG
in 2012 this was the list:
https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/interact_poll_results_2012_best_james_bond_film.php3
With AVTAK,DAD and Moonraker solidly at the bottom.
Yeah I think you nailed it. The only oomph in the film is Barry's score which is great as usual
Thanks for that link! Very interesting indeed!
Whilst we all agree that Rog was just too old in this film we have to be fair to him. He was 56 when he filmed the Ascot scenes. And he was still only 57 when the film was released. ;) .
http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/3526/the-actual-age-of-the-bond-actors-during-production
My mum is going to be 57 next birthday and my dad is already over 60. I don't like to think of them as "old". However, I think that the way Rog looked and acted didn't do him any favours. They stuck a leather jacket on him, which gave him a "geezer" look and dyed his hair in not a particularly flattering manner. Also, his face-lift and "leathery" appearance made him look even worse.
Indeed, he really did look bad. He looked well worn in FYEO and just about got away with it. He looked too old in OP and in AVTAK it was all beyond a joke. I love the guy but deary me.
A better haircut would have helped.
I agree, they did not do him any favours in this film. His performance was great as always, but they could have made him look more favourable. That leather jacket was the pits. Baking quiche, tucking in Stacy and hanging around a kitchen was also a problem imho because it just played into the fact that he was a little past it.
He may have looked a little long in the tooth in FYEO and OP but at least in those films he felt more like a seasoned spy.
I do too of course, but not that good :))
Edit: Nope I'm only 41 even worse :)
Damn, I will never complain about Craig's age again :))
But then Craig looks his age, Roger did not.
I do remember reading a review from the Radio Times (a well known television magazine in the UK) saying that Moore was his least convincing as 007 in Moonraker - a statement I'm not going to entirely disagree with.
It's worth noting that in both MR and AVTAK he wears some rather naff clothes too.
DAF. 12/23
LTK. 14/23
DAD. 20/23
You're right. I suppose it was the 70s/80s afterall. Its just that in MR/AVTAK I think his costumes are especially naff.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN...NAFF CLOTHES!?!?
URGHH....I SHOW YOU NAFF CLOTHES!!!!!
DAF was a triumph of epic proportions!!!
#FaveBondOfThemAll
carry on!
I feel you man, I feel the same about DAD, well not that enthousiastic.
But I can't ignore this thread...
...I started it for Heaven's sake :))
Somehow this picture worries me. It's his face. He really doesn't care beeing up there at all. Seems like he's been doing that all morning. And she's bored by it too...
Now that Spectre has run its course I'm "resurrecting" this thread to see if there is something new to discuss.
All of those 5 movies do have their fans of course.
DAF - certainly the least liked of Connery and often regarded to be the least good of the series.
AVTAK - probably Moore's last is also the least liked of his tenure and is found a lot near the bottom of lists.
LTK - while this certainly can be found in the upper half of rankings, often in the Top 10 even, I think it's fair to say it is less liked than TLD.
DAD - no mystery here. The least liked of Brosnan's tenure and often found at the bottom of rankings of the franchise.
SP - if you look at ratings by critics and audience SP is more or less on par with QOS just now, but ratings will rather go down than up with time and I believe in a couple of years SP will have the unlucky fate of being regarded as Craig's least good Bond movie.
This may all be coincidence of course, maybe not so much with Connery and Moore as it was their 6th respectively 7th movie and maybe the high point in an actor's Bond tenure happens in his earlier films.
GF (3rd)
TSWLM (3rd)
TLD (1st)
GE (1st)
CR (1st)
Don't be alarmed if you disagree, it is my assessment of things.
If you have other theories, it will be interesting to get to know them :)
I'm clairvoyant.
Or it is an educated guess.
OHMSS - 9/24
DAF - 24/24
AVTAK - 19/24
LTK - 12/24
DAD - 22/24
SP - 16/24
Yes none of them do too well for me except for OHMSS and that doesn't really count.
I would agree completely with that assessment. And so would the public, actually.