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Hence they include the film in the steelbook release and say it's one of the films that feature S.P.E.C.T.R.E.
That's a marketing call. Not a retcon. ;) A retcon would be EON suddenly coming out and saying Auric Goldfinger was a Member of SPECTRE and worked on his own preferably.
But in FRWL doesn't Kronsteen says he is an associate?
I tend to agree with Bill Koenig.
Precisely.
Yeah. All they're doing is acknowledging what everybody knew, but they weren't legally allowed to clarify. It's a film that features Blofeld. No retcon involved.
Exactly as I said.
Well, yes. Well put!
Also DN was a film centred around a SP operative, where FYEO isn't, so to include the latter and not the former makes a mockery of any suggested continuity. They should just stick to running fast and loose. Bond and continuity is fine in it's vagueness.
I just read the article again and noticed Dr. No wasn't in it. That is pretty odd. But they should just call it the "Blofeld appearence movies." or something. Whatever. It's just saying what we already knew.
Aren't you creating your own canon here? If Blofeld is in a wheelchair because of the end of OHMSS, then how is he getting around in DAF, are they ALL his 'doubles'? I've always figured this is them deciding he barely survived DAF.
It's a retcon. Eon snipped out a line where the villain says this was "the 10th anniversary of our last encounter." To leave it in would mean they'd no longer have "plausible deniability." The line stayed in the comic book adaptation.
I always thought the wheelchair was because Bond smashed him into the oil rig.
It's not a retcon, it had no impact canonically and it's clearly Blofeld. It's merely clarifying the fact.
That's exactly what I'm doing here a bit ;-). I just....think....DAF is great fun. But it falls so entirely out of place after OHMSS. FYEO imo is the best sequel to OHMSS. Continuity-wise and style-wise.
Yes, but then it can't be Waltz because that would make no sense at all and even be an absolute disaster story wise, Oberhauser is Bond's childhood acquaintance.
I still believe Andrew Scott will be revealed to be Blofeld, I just can't see any other way IF Blofeld does appear in Spectre.
Conspiracy theory time - Assuming the Blofeld of FYEO is the same one whose neck was broken and becomes wheelchair bound after OHMSS, then DAF's Blofeld could be an impostor. The real one pays the fake one(s) to go and do some Blofeld-like stuff since he knows Bond will be looking for him. So the real one is able to hide out for a decade constructing his master plan for revenge (er, which involves a wire that Bond just unplugs).
I think it would be an absolute disaster story wise too, but that doesn't mean it ain't gonna go down in that fashion.
I'm already thinking that this whole Craig reboot era is going to get filed under something like 'grand unified theory of Bond' phase when somebody does a 75th anniversary essaybook on Bond films.
It'll probably be the chapter SEPARATING WHEAT FROM CHAFF: Reconciling MI6's Jungian Archetypes with the Freudian Oedipal Dilemma Arising in PostColdWar 007 Screenjobs.
All I can say is '?'
CR and QS already involved an organization we know from the trailer that exist in the same world as SPECTRE. The only unfortunate would be Silva which like Gold finger should be left alone but nevertheless is mentioned in the SPECTRE list above. Maybe not idk.
I was just trying to make up something that was appropriately highfalutin' sounding, thass all.
I see. Jolly good. :)
Retcon. They tried to pretend it wasn't Blofeld for legal reasons. One more snipped line from the screenplay. After Bond drops the Blofeld-like guy down the chimney, Bond says, "Happy anniversary." That, too, is in the comic book adaptation, based on the script Marvel had at the time.
If you want to say it's not a retcon, fine. The fact is, Eon is now changing its story.
They never awknowledged or denied it was Blofeld. Roger Moore said it was Blofeld on the Ultimate Edition FYEO commentary. A retcon would be EON suddenly saying Goldfinger worked for SPECTRE. EON's just confirming what has been known as a marketing gimmick. The SPECTRE collection which is missing Dr. No in it for some reason.
I say tomato, you say tomato, let's call the whole thing off