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Daniel Craig with Silenced PPK

joshdeese93joshdeese93
edited August 2015 in Bond Movies Posts: 352
Would love to see Daniel Craig with a silenced PPK sometime soon.

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  • joshdeese93joshdeese93
    edited August 2015 Posts: 352
    Is he the only actor to not have screen time with one?
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Roger Moore never used a Silenced PPK.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    edited August 2015 Posts: 13,978
    There are a number where Bond does attach the PPK's silencer. But Lazenby also never used a silenced PPK.
  • Master_DaharkMaster_Dahark
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Roger Moore never used a Silenced PPK.
    Odd how it ended up that way, since he did the most movies. Moore finally got to use one in The Wild Geese (with a cigar in his mouth no less!)

    I'm scratching my head wondering if Lazenby did. I know I've seen him posing with one but I can't seem to remember if he used one in the actual movie. I'm getting old :D

  • ChrisMC36SSRChrisMC36SSR
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    It's also odd that Roger Moore never drove an Aston Martin in a James Bond movie.
  • DoubleOhhSevenDoubleOhhSeven
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    Moore never did a lot of things that were associated with Bond.

    -Never ordered a Vodka Martini (Shaken not Stirred).
    -Never drove an Aston Martin
    -Never used a silenced PPK.
    -Never smoked a cigarette.

    I'm sure it was all part of the filmmaker's attempt to distance his Bond from Connery's.
  • ChrisMC36SSRChrisMC36SSR
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    Pierce Brosnan never smoked a cigarette in a James Bond film either but you're right on the money! Roger Moore wanted to play a more light hearted version of Bond since we needed that at the time so Bond could survive the 70s. Roger Moore does have a bit more in common with Connery than most people think though. It's just that all six actors have their own unique styles and strengths to the role and no two Bonds were the same! :)
  • trevaniantrevanian
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    DoubleOhhSeven wrote: »
    Moore never did a lot of things that were associated with Bond.

    -Never ordered a Vodka Martini (Shaken not Stirred).
    -Never drove an Aston Martin
    -Never used a silenced PPK.
    -Never smoked a cigarette.

    I'm sure it was all part of the filmmaker's attempt to distance his Bond from Connery's.

    In Cinefantastique magazine, there was a very short piece about FYEO before it came out and Moore is pictured with a lit cigarette in hand at the casino in the b-t-s pic, listening to Glen I think. So I'm guessing they did have him with cigarette (not cigar) but cut it for some reason. Either that or Moore was just smoking cigarettes between takes.

  • MansfieldMansfield Where the hell have you been?
    edited August 2015 Posts: 1,263
    He uses one in the PTS of Casino Royale... and the hotel action set piece.

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  • DoubleOhhSevenDoubleOhhSeven
    edited August 2015 Posts: 1,778
    ChrisMC36SSR wrote: »
    Pierce Brosnan never smoked a cigarette in a James Bond film either but you're right on the money! Roger Moore wanted to play a more light hearted version of Bond since we needed that at the time so Bond could survive the 70s. Roger Moore does have a bit more in common with Connery than most people think though. It's just that all six actors have their own unique styles and strengths to the role and no two Bonds were the same! :)

    True but at the time both Connery and Lazenby had frequently smoked cigarettes as Bond.
    trevanian wrote: »
    DoubleOhhSeven wrote: »
    Moore never did a lot of things that were associated with Bond.

    -Never ordered a Vodka Martini (Shaken not Stirred).
    -Never drove an Aston Martin
    -Never used a silenced PPK.
    -Never smoked a cigarette.

    I'm sure it was all part of the filmmaker's attempt to distance his Bond from Connery's.

    In Cinefantastique magazine, there was a very short piece about FYEO before it came out and Moore is pictured with a lit cigarette in hand at the casino in the b-t-s pic, listening to Glen I think. So I'm guessing they did have him with cigarette (not cigar) but cut it for some reason. Either that or Moore was just smoking cigarettes between takes.

    That was during an interview. There's a funny story behind that. Tony Curtis had made Moore promise to quite smoking cigarettes as Curtis was an avid non-smoker. And it was this interview that proved that Moore wasn't completely true to his word.
    Mansfield wrote: »
    He uses one in the PTS of Casino Royale... and the hotel action set piece.

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    That's a P99 not a PPK.
  • MansfieldMansfield Where the hell have you been?
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    DoubleOhhSeven wrote: »
    That's a P99 not a PPK.
    Hmm, does he use the same model in the hotel sequence?

  • DoubleOhhSevenDoubleOhhSeven
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    Mansfield wrote: »
    DoubleOhhSeven wrote: »
    That's a P99 not a PPK.
    Hmm, does he use the same model in the hotel sequence?

    Craig doesn't use a PPK until QOS and he's stuck with it ever since.
  • MansfieldMansfield Where the hell have you been?
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    DoubleOhhSeven wrote: »
    Craig doesn't use a PPK until QOS and he's stuck with it ever since.
    I see, but even then, this is sort of a dubious distinction since he has used both just at separate times.
  • DoubleOhhSevenDoubleOhhSeven
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    Mansfield wrote: »
    DoubleOhhSeven wrote: »
    Craig doesn't use a PPK until QOS and he's stuck with it ever since.
    I see, but even then, this is sort of a dubious distinction since he has used both just at separate times.

    Silenced PPK.
  • MansfieldMansfield Where the hell have you been?
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    I don't think you got my last post. I mean it's trivial that he hasn't used a silenced PPK since he has used a silenced pistol in a film already. It doesn't say anything to his style or character in the same vein as Moore's character differentiations from Connery's portrayal. This is merely a technical oddity that came about from production decisions.
  • DoubleOhhSevenDoubleOhhSeven
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    Mansfield wrote: »
    I don't think you got my last post. I mean it's trivial that he hasn't used a silenced PPK since he has used a silenced pistol in a film already. It doesn't say anything to his style or character in the same vein as Moore's character differentiations from Connery's portrayal. This is merely a technical oddity that came about from production decisions.
    Mansfield wrote: »
    I don't think you got my last post. I mean it's trivial that he hasn't used a silenced PPK since he has used a silenced pistol in a film already. It doesn't say anything to his style or character in the same vein as Moore's character differentiations from Connery's portrayal. This is merely a technical oddity that came about from production decisions.
    Mansfield wrote: »
    I don't think you got my last post. I mean it's trivial that he hasn't used a silenced PPK since he has used a silenced pistol in a film already. It doesn't say anything to his style or character in the same vein as Moore's character differentiations from Connery's portrayal. This is merely a technical oddity that came about from production decisions.

    There's a huge difference between a silenced PPK and a silenced P99. The PPK is Bond's weapon. Pure and simple. The P99 is just some gun Bond used for a few movies. The PPK is such a huge part of the iconography of James Bond that seeing the current 007 posing the P99 just felt wrong. I'm clearly not the only one who felt that way as a conscious decision was made to go back to the PPK in recent films.
  • MansfieldMansfield Where the hell have you been?
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    DoubleOhhSeven wrote: »
    There's a huge difference between a silenced PPK and a silenced P99. The PPK is Bond's weapon. Pure and simple. The P99 is just some gun Bond used for a few movies. The PPK is such a huge part of the iconography of James Bond that seeing the current 007 posing the P99 just felt wrong. I'm clearly not the only one who felt that way as a conscious decision was made to go back to the PPK in recent films.
    There's no doubt the PPK is Bond's weapon. Considering Casino Royale is a reboot of the series, it opens up a can of worms in terms of continuity (not that it was perfect before that film). That was probably a factor in choosing to forgo the PPK in Casino Royale. When Bond has that first iconic briefing with M in Dr. No, he adds the PPK to his arsenal for the first time. Perhaps they felt like they would be contradicting that moment to bring it back in Casino Royale. The fact that he suddenly starts using it in Quantum Of Solace shows it was just a knee-jerk production decision since it's a direct sequel.

    That's why I'm kind of dismissive of the premise of Craig with a "Silenced PPK" since they gave him one to use, but it was without the iconic piece to match. Though, on second thought, I may have been a bit too dismissive of the impact it has on the tone of the Craig films. When Bond confronts Yusef in the conclusion of Quantum Of Solace, that's precisely the moment when he would desire a silencer and he didn't have it with his PPK. That could show intent not to pull the trigger and speaks volumes to the maturity he experiences over the course of the film.
  • michaelclarkemichaelclarke Onchan, Isle of Man
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    Interestingly enough, it pretty much every poster for Casino Royale he is pictured holding a silenced PPK. Yet it never turns up in the film...
  • joshdeese93joshdeese93
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    I really hope there's a sequence in Spectre where he uses one!

    Apparently, in the deleted footage from the ending of Quantum of Solace, where Bond assaults Mr. White and Guy Haines in their safehouse, Bond had a silenced PPK, while Mr. White has a Sig Sauer P226 with a silencer (there are photos of Mr. White holding his pistol in this deleted scene, but none of Bond.)
  • Seven_Point_Six_FiveSeven_Point_Six_Five Southern California
    edited August 2015 Posts: 1,257
    joshdeese93 wrote: »
    Apparently, in the deleted footage from the ending of Quantum of Solace, where Bond assaults Mr. White and Guy Haines in their safehouse, Bond had a silenced PPK, while Mr. White has a Sig Sauer P226 with a silencer (there are photos of Mr. White holding his pistol in this deleted scene, but none of Bond.)

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  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
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    Mansfield wrote: »
    He uses one in the PTS of Casino Royale... and the hotel action set piece.

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    You beat me to it!
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    As discussed above, it's a P99 not a PPK.
  • Seven_Point_Six_FiveSeven_Point_Six_Five Southern California
    edited August 2015 Posts: 1,257
    Just to clear the confusion for some of you guys.

    A PPK is only seen twice in Casino Royale. The only time Bond carries one is in the PTS fight with Dryden's contact. Another PPK is later seen carried by one of Obanno's men in the stairway fight. Neither of which are silenced.

    In Quantum of Solace, the PPK returns as Bond's primary sidearm though it is never silenced. However, in the deleted scene where Bond confronts White and Haines, he uses a silenced PPK. See the photos I posted above. Apparently the same resin prop gun he used in that scene was used for the cover of Empire magazine earlier this year:

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  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    Craig looks bloody fantastic in that photo....

    ...but then it's clearly photoshopped...too bad really.
  • joshdeese93joshdeese93
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    Seven_Point_Six_Five wrote: »
    joshdeese93 wrote: »
    Apparently, in the deleted footage from the ending of Quantum of Solace, where Bond assaults Mr. White and Guy Haines in their safehouse, Bond had a silenced PPK, while Mr. White has a Sig Sauer P226 with a silencer (there are photos of Mr. White holding his pistol in this deleted scene, but none of Bond.)

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    OH MY GOSH, YESSS!!!! I've never seen this before. Thanks so much for sharing!!
  • joshdeese93joshdeese93
    edited September 2015 Posts: 352
    Welp! I suppose my wishes have been answered!

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  • Seven_Point_Six_FiveSeven_Point_Six_Five Southern California
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    joshdeese93 wrote: »
    Welp! I suppose my wishes have been answered!

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    I'm fairly certain that the PPK seen in the poster is the same prop seen on the Empire cover, so it's possible that it is only being used for photo shoots.

    On the other hand, there is a particular scene in the trailer that makes me believe we may see a suppressed PPK in the film.
  • joshdeese93joshdeese93
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    Seven_Point_Six_Five wrote: »
    joshdeese93 wrote: »
    Welp! I suppose my wishes have been answered!

    bond-24-spectre-coming-soon-poster?t=&s=&id=03956[img][/img]

    I'm fairly certain that the PPK seen in the poster is the same prop seen on the Empire cover, so it's possible that it is only being used for photo shoots.

    On the other hand, there is a particular scene in the trailer that makes me believe we may see a suppressed PPK in the film.

    Which scene from the trailer do you think it would be in? The part where Lucia Sciarra is about to be shot from behind?
  • Seven_Point_Six_FiveSeven_Point_Six_Five Southern California
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    joshdeese93 wrote: »
    Seven_Point_Six_Five wrote: »
    joshdeese93 wrote: »
    Welp! I suppose my wishes have been answered!

    bond-24-spectre-coming-soon-poster?t=&s=&id=03956[img][/img]

    I'm fairly certain that the PPK seen in the poster is the same prop seen on the Empire cover, so it's possible that it is only being used for photo shoots.

    On the other hand, there is a particular scene in the trailer that makes me believe we may see a suppressed PPK in the film.

    Which scene from the trailer do you think it would be in? The part where Lucia Sciarra is about to be shot from behind?

    Yep, that's the one.
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