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We are clearly twins. Always thought TND was the least awful of the Brosnan era. Actually quite enjoy the first half. Shame about Hatcher.
The adoration for GE around here is bizarre. Totally flatulent film.
Same here. I was totally deflated by GE, the hackneyed dialogue and performances in the pre-titles alone put me off it...and then we had the 'cheat' stunt to compound it all.
I never found the film as action packed as some professed it to be, other than a lot of explosions and machine gun fire. For all the talk of LTK looking like a TV movie GE looks quite cheap in this day and age rather like a straight to video Segal film.
At least TND gave us another take on YOLT/TSWLM and a more comfortable performance from Brosnan which made things easier to accept him for the time being. A shame the film did indeed have Hatcher and also returned to machine gun antics for the finale.
Campbell did a great job on CR but I'll absolutely never forgive the man for so uncharitably taking swipes at Dalton during his promotion of GE. Craig's performance in CR suggests that Dalton was on the right track so Campbell's impression of what makes a good Bond had either changed or he was just submitting to promo hyperbole for Brosnan back in 1995. Even still, it seemed unsporting.
Campbell is of course praised for rejuvenating the series twice with two come back films and debutante Bonds but as no other Director had this opportunity to do so we can't fairly use this as a means to rate him above Young, Hamilton, Gilbert, Hunt and Glen.
Eh?
Entirely agree. Refreshing to hear from someone who isn't convinced GE was the second coming
What did Campbell say exactly about Dalton? Any quotes or online video to back this up?
For me CR is first class. But GE is just ok, mediocure, average.
What never ceases to puzzle and amuse on a personal level is when this film is rated highly by Bond "fans." Ultimately, it provides little more than a flashy, over-hyped, vapid, MTV-influenced pot-pourri of greatest hits moments which don't add up to a satisfying whole. It's like one of those mediocre compilation albums where you simply flick through to the songs you like, enjoying the few good bits, and arbitrarily disregarding the rest. Fleeting surface flash and gloss with no real heart or soul. A hollow Bond movie garnering hollow praise.
To try and be more objective on GE:
PTS: Excellent, despite the 'fake stunt'.
Title Track: Good.
Title Credits: Average.
Main Villain: Average.
Main Bond Girl: Forgettable.
Henchman: Excellent.
Overall Plot: Average. Satellites in space....yawn.
Dialogue: Average.
Score: The worst of the series. Disgusting.
Settings: Average.
Action: Average.
Humour : Average.
Cinematography: Excellent.
Benign Bizarre: Average.
Suspense: Average.
Minor Characters: Average.
Glamour: Good.
Bond Performance: Distinctly average.
As I though.....average.
As I said, played to death in disgraceful ways since. Enough.
What did Campbell say exactly about Dalton? Any quotes or online video to back this up?
I agree that the aston chase at the beginning, with it's cheesy dialogue and horrid music, was a step too far in winking back to the old days, but apart from that the film feels modern and alive.
My favourite Bond film since TLD.
Although some of the set-pieces are impressive, it's just greatest hits moments which don't add up to a satisfying whole.
Not helping in the least is the score which, it has to be said, is a truly dreadful thing of epic proportions. The worst and most offensive example takes place when Bond has a car race with Onatop. Was it purposely intended for use in screenings only for the deaf? Those notes meant to signify car horns are crushingly ugly and horribly grating. A musical travesty capable of inducing suicidal inclinations in hyenas and hypomanics.
As for Brosnan, he's just ok, he cosmetically smarmed and smirked through the movie with the clumsy over-confidence of an actor who thinks he's extending his range, when he's really showing off his limitations.
He looks the part, but he isn't quite the part.
For me, it's one of the iconic scenes in the series.
There was never horrible music in the old days though? It was class. The scene is nothing special though....it's an average scene, with a sub par Bond girl in the Aston trying to be like a classic.
Apart from DN, FRWL, GF, TB, OHMSS, TSWLM, GE, CR and SF, the rest of the franchise should be considered as 'shit' judging by how some dismiss these films.
I would swap out TSWLM and LALD on that list. Other than that, you got it right.
So, 'objectively', one of the most popular Bond films, is 'mediocre', but QOS, one of the least-liked of the franchise, is deserving of being near the top of most praised list?
Great point. Internal inconsistency abound!
Compared with GE.....QoS has a more Fleming tone, a more interesting plot (carrying on from CR), a better score, better action sequences, better supporting actors and a far better actor in the lead role who has the presence to carry the film.
I find most of the action in QOS fairly tedious and flat.
QoS terrible action.
Fair enough, but for me it's not efficient enough to justify it's existence. The main purpose seems to be to reassure the audience that this is the same old James we know and love, and at the same time introduce him to new fans. It's a nice demonstration of the characters various attributes, but story wise, it doesn't really do much. And it takes it's time not really doing much, too. Maybe if they chopped out some of the antics with the cyclists and just moved through it a bit quicker, it might work better.
Wow. I usually find your comments insightful and entertaining but the GE car chase is one of your favourite Bond scenes and you think it has old school Bond flair?
Are you taking the proverbial?
So funny how peope can have such diametrically opposed views. For me GE is a clunking catastrophe. A plodding, poorly acted and written fanboy fantasy of what a Bond movie is. I.e. an embarrassment from start to finish
No, I'm being serious. Of course there is an obvious camp element to the whole thing (as there was with Silva's introduction in SF), but that was EON's intention imho. They went serious with Dalton, had poor success in the US, endured the long break, and wanted to come back with a bang. What better way to do it than to play up the humour and fun aspects? After all, True Lies had just been a monster smash in the year prior with a similar light touch approach.