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We really won't probably know until the developement stages of B25 if Craig is indeed not returning.
Craig has not bashed the franchise per se ..in fact yes he has been supportive and appreciative overall.
The comments made though were not even though he tried to correct himself.
One bad comment or action or divorce can ruin a career. Just ask Mel Gibson as someone mentioned or Kevin Costner or even Harrison Ford who seemed to have lost his non-Indy audience when he left his wife.
Bond will survive after Craig ...but studios and financing are different now so curious how the impact of SP performing whether good or bad will have on Bond.
Craig's reckless comments may or may not impact the performance. Craig did introduce a lot of new fans to Bond I think ..so did Brosnan I'm sure.
I don't know ...we all have an opinion. I am very excited about the film ...not long now. We are all at each other's throats it seems.
Group hug lol
>:D<
Think about it. Bond is not meant to be 'nice'. If anything Dan is much better at promoting the franchise than any of his predecessors.
And then: don't expect DC to ever do an interview with Time Out again! LOL
Sure, if the movie is good, probably none of this will matter anyway. I sure hope so!
This is a forum to share opinions, so thats what we do, no point in trying to convice others that your opinion is better than any other.
None of us has a magic crystal ball, we are all just speculating
Very true. However, there has been (from my perspective) an overall pattern here with SP marketing....starting with the Sony Leaks (outside their control) to the song (definitely controversial and if they couldn't see that coming they are idiots) to Elba to DC's comments. The overall 'noise' from a marketing standpoint for this film has been a controversial one. That's one way to get your product out there I suppose. I hope it works. They did not do this for SF, that's for sure. That one was definitely top of mind with a lot of people but wasn't controversial.
Very true as well. Also, it's interesting that some have been censored on this forum for swearing and yet our hero is being forgiven by others for doing the same thing out there in magazine interviews that he should know (unless he has been living under a rock) would be picked up on the net. It's the 'front page of yahoo' thing that caught my attention yesterday, and not in a good way.....and precisely because I'm such a proponent of this franchise and want it to expand its audience. Bond is an institution......a global institution more than a British one these days (most of its money is made outside the UK). So whether we like it or not, I think it's helpful not to potentially offend more conservative sensibilities. What we on a forum think is largely irrelevant.
Don't be silly.
Since you brought those up, I have to comment, so here goes... (Apologies to others for OT.) Those two things (only a couple of days apart as well, so one probably contributed to other, among other things) have nothing to do with "fame". (Apart from the fact that we wouldn't even know about either if he wasn't famous, and nobody would care... especially over 7 years later.)
The details of the family issue are unknown, and a private matter (him defending his wife rings true though, even mum and sister mentioned that), but it's pretty telling that there were no charges, no evidence of wrongdoing on his part, and the ladies kept begging him to get in touch afterwards in multiple variations of the story sold to papers over the years.
As for the TS incident shortly afterwards, it didn't happen in a vacuum, obviously. (There was the above, the frustrating TS shoot - he knew the movie was going to hell, the TDK promotion - he was missing a tragically died friend, but had to keep talking about him over and over... even more fun than junkets in general, I'm sure... there were several interviews where he looked to be on autopilot... he hasn't looked like that promoting any movie since, seemed very happy also at TS junkets the following year... despite TDK being the one he enjoyed making and was proud of.) And the other guy wasn't some innocent bystander or a poor little crew member who didn't do anything wrong. You may wanna look at what people on set said. (And even many people in the industry who were not, from Darren Aronofsky to Ron Howard - whose daughter was there, so he got a fresh report.) Bale already felt miserable before it for various reasons (personal as well as work - he never said so himself, of course, but it's obvious) and miserable and embarrassed after it, and apologized to everyone on set.
Neither of those incidents was our business, but since they were made public, he handled both as well as possible. Never tried to explain either away, or make excuses to make himself look better, never commented on the private issue (not his style and no reason he should have), and took full responsibility and all blame for the other, not pointing fingers at other parties (the DP and the director), nor bringing up work or private circumstances. I don't respect him less for being vulnerable and imperfect and occasionally screwing up. It's not like it was something actually serious.
He isn't some superhuman or saint anymore than Craig is, but you are confusing issues. I'm not sure what your point or indeed complaint about those incidents was exactly, but neither had anything to do with what I was talking about earlier.
But, of course, if you just wanted to express horror at a person having a family row, and a few of days later having a row with one colleague (who was again doing what he had already been asked not to do) for a few minutes, on a several month shoot, on a 30 year career... fine. You might be a rare individual who never gets seriously angry at anyone in any any circumstances ever, and so never say stuff you regret. I'm a normal person, though, and I sympathize with normal people having stress, exhaustion, frustration, pain and helplessness piling up to breaking point. (Yes, I look at famous people ultimately as just people, I'm weird that way.) And it's not like any noses, or indeed lights got broken or anything, on either day, so... ;)
All at the same time, bookies will come out giving odds. Months ago it was Elba, Last week Damien Lewis was "apparently" told the gig was his, this week Tom Hardy.
Each time the bookies do this they take an influx of bets - Money in the Till.
If you then look at News Groups and Bookmakers and dig deep you find people like Rupert Murdoch's News International The Times, The Sunday Times and The Sun. As well as well as the Murdoch family running Sky, Which also owns Sky bet.
The media drives the stories and the Bookmakers make money off it. Between this and the who will sing the Bond theme, the bookies have made a mint out of Bond.
No what you said was that Bale was better at dealing with fame and PR than Craig was. When your wrong because he has behaved terribly in both his professional and personal life, on set his outburst was unprofessional and left him looking like a Diva. The incident with family, the police don't arrest you for no reason, something happened the police investigated he was arrested so there was something to it. Therefore your choice of which actor you chose to use as an alternative to the way Craig does things was a flawed argument. Bales a PR disaster. His image never recovered from those two incidents.
Must admit, prior to Craig's recent "only for the money" comment I never thought actors suggesting themselves for the part were doing it "only for the money." I assumed they had genuine desire to play the role. But now, after Craig's comments, I doubt it.
I guess no-one plays Bond for the genuine joy it brings. That is not how life works. Ho hum.
:)
i'm on the same page about that.
Brosnan once said, being Bond is like being an ambassador for a small state.
I just wish Craig would handle himself with more care instead of saying stuff like 'i would only do it for the money'. I don't even want him to do a 25th bond movie if thats true. I don't need another DAF.
And Bond is definitly a global institution.
i am a huge Bond fan since 1997 and i am not even British.
I'm sure a lot of it is indeed driven by money.
I wish you could use the same sensible brains you use arguing Craig's case when looking at Bale. First of all I like Craig a hell of a lot and wasn't putting him down in any way. Another poster brought up RDJ and Bale, and I only commented on the one I know about. I was talking about fame stuff, promotion, interviews, dealing with fans and press and paparazzi, all that, and yes I do think Bale has handled that better than Craig. That doesn't mean I think Craig is particularly bad on those areas like some here seem to. I think those actors have a lot in common, too. What you brought up different kinds of things, though. Private matters we shouldn't even know about.
Bale has not "behaved terribly" in either professional or personal life, I have no idea how exactly you look at those incidents - there certainly isn't anything else you might mean. He didn't look like a diva anymore than an utterly exhausted parent who has had a few miserable weeks or months is a diva when they yell at a kid who keeps doing what they're not supposed to be doing and the parent has to keep cleaning up. - I'm not making comparisons with people but the situations. Might as well be a spouse or a neighbor or something. Look at the whole situation, what was actually happening and why. Yes, he screwed up, too, but it wasn't serious, it was a one time thing, and he profusely apologized. Also, since when is being arrested the same as being guilty... and without even being charged in between? No evidence, charges or case means the person is guilty? It's not like police arrived on the scene, either, the ladies decided to contact them after going back home the next day. And such love and remorse from the "victims" afterwards. Right.
I'm not fully aware what the disaster was exactly (neither case was a happy one, but there was no major damage that I could see) and what needed recovering. He seems to be very popular and very much in demand. Hollywood and press certainly didn't seem to mind. Who the heck never has any issues with anybody? He won an Oscar (and tons of other awards) a year and a bit after the TS incident became public, seemed pretty public approval of the actor as well as his work. Directors and actors want to work with him and keep praising how great he is to work with. He certainly isn't lacking work and admirers and praise and is much liked and respected. Oh, but some people on the internet think badly of him? How is that important? It isn't.
Connery gets a pass because well it's Sean bloody Connery. He could slap your mother and you'll end up giving him a high 5.
Yeah in all seriousness it's thing being blown completely out of proportion. We're getting interviews taken at different periods being released however and people seem to be ignoring key bits of information that actually make sense and put his words into context but that's not good enough; people aren't happy unless their bitching like silly little school girls.
You're absolutely right. :)
You said it.
Yes well said. It would be nice if he could pull it together .....for F#**'s sake.( Just "Bonding" withDC)
The media and industry members chiming in on this are making themselves look like fools. Take the lead actress from Grey's Anatomy for example. She says, "He needs a reality check." Might she not feel the same as Dan if she ever had to sacrifice as much for her career? Please.
I can't see anyone saying that it is the media that he owes something to.
Who said that?
In meantime he will keep talking like he's had a few, which is kind of normal for him.
Maybe he does have a few belts before giving interviews.
Where the heck was his PR rep. She makes a fortune repping him. She is supposed to be present during all his interviews, particularly print, to catch and clarify this kind of stuff with the interviewer before it is published. She is supposed to be protecting him. It's her job.
I watch TV most nights for news, sports and stuff, and I have seen exactly two short SP TV trailers, weeks apart. I have seen literally tons and tons of Bridge of Spies trailers, also tons of spots for the Martian for weeks. I hope Sony isn't stiffing SP on promo $ because they know for Sony, Bond is a lost deal.
I'm glad that Dan hasn't changed his interview habits. None of our beloved actors have been "fake" in interviews and I wouldn't expect any less from Mr. Craig. Is he so seething with frustration from the grueling shoot or is he really ready to walk away from it all? Probably both but let's ask him again in a few months. Remember, this is the same attitude that landed him the role in the first place. It's rather like how Americans celebrate NFL players for their violence on Sundays but condemn them for that same behavior off the field.
He has dumped gasoline on the fire that is the negative driven media but if SP is a huge hit then no one will remember. My only fear is that his friendship with Mendes will prevent him from continuing on if a new director is brought on board. Personally, I'd like to see him stick around for a while.
He's being paid for the film. Or is he playing Bond out of the goodness of his heart? If he doesn't want to do it, i'm sure there are many actors who would jump at the chance to be the next Bond, and show a bit of gratitude for the chance, too.