Daniel Craig says he doesn't want to do another Bond; Spectre may be his last

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  • Posts: 486
    I quite like this bit from the Mirror interview:

    What do you love most about him?

    His inner conflict. It’s about, when he’s knocked down, how he gets up. He takes a lot of battering and so he should, he’s an agent. But it’s how he stands up against adversity because he’s one against many.

    That's the appeal of the Fleming Bond in a nutshell to me. Not the gentleman agent that some people think the metrosexual mannequin Brosnan got to a tee, but the lone agent who'd be battered and bruised but through sheer graft, ingenuity and a touch of benzedrine, would overcome the odds and adversities and bring the villain to heel.
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    I don't know if Craig just has a very sarcastic humor or if he generally hates publicity and interviews lol[/quote]

    Both are true - to the max. I've noted before that I'm a fan of his Bond, but I think this was a major blunder on Craig's part. He should have known better, and his PR rep who was unquestionably with him was totally incompetent for not picking up on the damage the quotes would cause when seen in print. The writer did Craig no favors, as he could have easily noted Craig was joking - had he been asked to by Craig or his PR rep, once Craig made the comments. The I'd only do Bond 25 for money quote, to me, was even more damaging than the slitting his wrists quote.

    This is not just a tabloid story, it is everywhere, worldwide, both in print and on TV. If SP hits near 1billion, Craig should escape mostly unscathed to do B25, if he wants to, with some explaining on his part. But if the film does considerably less, even if it clears its budget at around $700-$750m, Craig will be the goat, and he may have joked himself out of B25.
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    I don't know if Craig just has a very sarcastic humor or if he generally hates publicity and interviews lol

    Both. - Like I see @smitty just said as well.

    smitty wrote: »

    Both are true - to the max. I've noted before that I'm a fan of his Bond, but I think this was a major blunder on Craig's part. He should have known better, and his PR rep who was unquestionably with him was totally incompetent for not picking up on the damage the quotes would cause when seen in print. The writer did Craig no favors, as he could have easily noted Craig was joking - had he been asked to by Craig or his PR rep, once Craig made the comments. The I'd only do Bond 25 for money quote, to me, was even more damaging than the slitting his wrists quote.

    This is not just a tabloid story, it is everywhere, worldwide, both in print and on TV. If SP hits near 1billion, Craig should escape mostly unscathed to do B25, if he wants to, with some explaining on his part. But if the film does considerably less, even if it clears its budget at around $700-$750m, Craig will be the goat, and he may have joked himself out of B25.

    I assumed PR rep just wasn't there - that would have made more sense - but if you know otherwise... yes, anyone listening in should have realized how that would look like in print without context or anything else explained, so clearly a blunder on PR rep's part, too. Oh well.

    Well, the Sunday press was full of this story of Craig's unfortunate comments. If even every serious newspaper is reporting this, then this is not just "another tabloid story" that will be forgotten in a few months.

    Really everybody has read this by now, out of context and with many of the stories indicating that Spectre will probably be Craig's last.

    Once Spectre has run its course, this will come up again, regularly.

    EON better shut those rumours up with an official statement latest in early 2016 to confirm that Bond 25 is in the works with Craig.
    Otherwise the role will eventually get recast for Bond 25.

    Yes, it is indeed not just another tabloid story, but on the other hand it's too early to predict if it will or won't be given a rest later on. It is unlikely to be truly forgotten, of course, and the chances are something like that might be brought up at any opportunity even after he's no longer Bond. But it may not be given such importance in the future as it is given now - that's what often happens with these things; they're stories everyone picks up and comments on for a few days or weeks, then there'll be new things to be upset about and previous trivialities get put on the self, and just occasionally referred to as a journalistic routine.

  • edited October 2015 Posts: 725
    Agree with all your comments @Tuulia. It's dismaying to read all the stuff now being written about this mess. This New York Post article below just went online for tomorrow's paper. It's NY City's biggest tab, a Murdock paper with a huge readership. At least iti has some context in it. Some. I will kind of reverse myself an hope that Craig comes out swinging against Sony if this story is true, which of course it may not be. #1 it is false, as he is not bashing the film at all, #2 Sony has been responsible for a ton of misery inflicted on SP by the leaks including very damaging stories about the script, not to mention that disloyal Elba gush by the former studio head. Sony made many, many stupid decisions that let to the Sony leaks fisaco. I have to stop posting about this junk, and concentrate on SP and hopefully the great reception it will get. But there is so much damn press about this mess of a story instead of focusing on SP.

    This is the NY post article in full:

    "Daniel Craig, who griped he’d rather “slash his wrists” than do another Bond film just weeks before the new movie “Spectre” is to be released, has been told to shut up by execs at Sony, sources tell Page Six.

    Bond insiders said Craig’s cranky outburst to Time Out London was brought on by the tough shoot for the latest 007 installment.

    One source said, “They had problems initially with the script, Craig was injured on the set and needed knee surgery, and they were still doing re-shoots last month, even though the movie is out in weeks.

    It was a very difficult shoot, to say the least.” But Craig’s curmudgeonly comment hasn’t gone down well in Hollywood.

    Ellen Pompeo tweeted, “This dude needs a reality check,” indicating most actors would be thrilled with the high-profile gig. Another Hollywood insider told us, “Craig is pretentious and thinks he’s better than Bond, that it doesn’t give him the creative range he needs.

    Plus he hasn’t had a big hit movie outside of the franchise, and he blames that on Bond.” Sony reps declined to comment. Craig’s rep didn’t respond."
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    edited October 2015 Posts: 4,116
    I already expected backlash like this ...and the leaks and script rewrites getting revisited.

    Y'all told me to chill instead of at least listening to my fears.

    Look I am excited and looking forward to SP although all the drama associated with this movie has stifled a lot of it compared to all the positivity we had approaching SF.

    I'm angry at Sony, EoN, and Craig... and Mendes.

    Having said that I'm expecting the film to be good.
  • edited October 2015 Posts: 187
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    Once Spectre has run its course, this will come up again, regularly.

    EON better shut those rumours up with an official statement latest in early 2016 to confirm that Bond 25 is in the works with Craig.
    Otherwise the role will eventually get recast for Bond 25.

    An actor being done with the role comes up regularly anyway and always has after an actor's second movie, especially for Craig. The media have been talking about him leaving the franchise since after 2008; seven years of this BS. It's absolutely nothing new as long as the media can conjure up someone interesting enough to get website clicks; (see Idris Elba).

    EON don't have to say anything, the same reason they don't say anything confirming Craig's commitment every time the tabloids come up with "__________ in line for James Bond role." It's mainstream media BS and the simple fact of the matter is that they, nor MGM, comment on rumors...otherwise they'd be issuing press statements every week of the year.

    The simple truth is we already have the facts and them not saying anything has absolutely nothing to do with the role being recast nor does it allude to it at all outside of fanboy wishes or fanboy fears considering we already know, by Craig's own words, that he's contracted for another. Then also add to that Barbara Broccoli's words of letting Craig be Bond as long as he wants and desires to be. Both of those statements have now been confirmed time and time again, unlike the twisted drivel the media has been spinning for the past week or so.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Urgh! Was reading the metro newspaper on my way into work only to read about people griping about how ungrateful Craig is and how he's lost respect from his fans after the comments he made about slitting his wrists. What a way to start my bloody day.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    SPECTRE will shut everyone up when it's released. :)
  • Thunderball007Thunderball007 United States
    edited October 2015 Posts: 306
    This is odd. So, what to think? Should we be concerned about what Mr. Craig is saying?

    I am wanting him back for one more, myself.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Nothing about what he said bothered me. Craig is being Craig. that's nothing new. I want him to do one or how many more he likes.
  • JohnHammond73JohnHammond73 Lancashire, UK
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    Seems to be a lot being made out of what he said. At the end of the day, he is an actor and what he does on screen, for me anyway, is what counts; and he does a good job of being Bond so far. What he says/how he acts away from the movie cameras has no bearing on my thoughts about him being a good 007; I want him back for more, more than 1 more as well. Ok, so some of what he said doesn't come across well and I know he has to promote the movie etc and come across in a good light but, I'm a fan of people being themselves and it seems that DC certainly has been.
  • edited October 2015 Posts: 95
    When people see more footage of SP, new on-camera interviews with an undoubtably more agreeable and upbeat Craig air and the reviews are hopefully positive, this three month old story - dragged out now for whatever reason - can be seen in a positive light as a way of getting even more exposure on the film itself, which I really think looks like it has the quality to withstand a minor blip, such as some misconstrued humor by Craig said in July,

    I would try and keep in mind that he never said a single negative word about anyone but himself; not the role, not the film, not the franchise, the crew, just himself as an actor. Self deprecating humor to the max.

    I'm not going to let the negativity get in the way. Three weeks and this will be a non issue.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    All of this to me just proves that Craig is a master of sarcasm and misdirection and as such is the perfect person to play 007.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
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    This topic really brought out the Craig haters. DC is a fantastic Bond, a fantastic actor a hidden comedian who' dry wit is misunderstood by the pond life press.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3269037/Has-Spectre-cle-Daniel-Craig-told-shut-movie-bosses-claiming-d-slash-wrists-play-James-Bond-again.html disgusting press and their "anonymous inside source" the media are pressing really hard and the same time touting for Elba. Ridiculous. Daniel Craig is Bond, he will remain Bond until he is no longer Bond. The media should show some respect, than continue to too write headlines about Dan's replacement.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    edited October 2015 Posts: 2,138
    Would bloody love it if at the end of Spectre it came up Daniel Crag will return as James Bond in ...... announce the next film title and put all the stupid rumours of Elba, Lewis, Cavil and everyone else linked to the role for a few years.

    Daniel Craig: “I’m contracted for one more — but I’m not going to make predictions,” Craig said. - “I work myself to death,” the actor added. “It’s getting harder. But such is life. I’ll keep going as long as I’m physically able.” a interview 11 days ago and the only quote that matters.

    For those in the UK Daniel is on a special episode of Jonathan Ross to discuss Bond/Spectre on Saturday the 17th of October ITV. The two are friends, if anyone has seen the interview between them back in 2006 while promoting Casino Royale, you will see he is relaxed speaking to Jonathan Ross. Expect it to be a true reflection of how he feels about the role, the film and the future.

  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
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    It does not matter one iota to me what Daniel Craig says about the franchise or how he handles his press duties.

    The only thing Dan 'owes' us is his best work, ie. performance as Bond - he does not owe us his best behaviour and he bleedin' well doesn't have to pander to the corporate machine.

    For all I care he can say whatever he likes - as long as his graft,sweat & dedication is up there on the screen, which I'm pretty certain it will be.
  • edited October 2015 Posts: 725
    This topic really brought out the Craig haters. DC is a fantastic Bond, a fantastic actor a hidden comedian who' dry wit is misunderstood by the pond life press.

    But the problem isn't the Craig haters or the Craig lovers. They are a very small % of the general audience. EON wouldn't be arranging tons of cover stories and interviews world wide if they weren't trying very hard to influence the general audience. Craig's interview has reached lots of this film audience all right but in a very lousy way. Ellen what's her face is an idiot, but he's still getting bashed all over. It doesn't matter if his wit didn't work, it's his highly paid job to do effective promotion, and he blew it at the worst possible time.

    You don't have to be brilliant to know witty stuff doesn't work well in print and Craig has done 1,000s of interviews. He has also caused trouble for his co-stars who are all going to have to waste time trying to defend him in all their new interviews. He better walk this mess back and soon. Acting Bond is half the gig, promoting it intelliigently is the other half, or else why the huge promotion effort. If SP is a big hit, well then thank goodness for that, and I don't believe the Sony story, but I do think he has definitely damaged his reputation.. I'm a fan of Craig's Bond, but I'm not able to ignore the mess he made of this as it was so damn unnecessary.
  • Lancaster007Lancaster007 Shrublands Health Clinic, England
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    If this is his last - and I don't believe that, he'll probably do one more once he's had a bit of a rest - but when there is a new Bond I hope that we are done with RougeBond and have a secret agent on bone fide missions. Oh, and ending up with the girl at the end!
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    edited October 2015 Posts: 2,138
    smitty wrote: »
    This topic really brought out the Craig haters. DC is a fantastic Bond, a fantastic actor a hidden comedian who' dry wit is misunderstood by the pond life press.

    But the problem isn't the Craig haters or the Craig lovers. They are a very small % of the general audience. EON wouldn't be arranging tons of cover stories and interviews world wide if they weren't trying very hard to influence the general audience. Craig's interview has reached lots of this film audience all right but in a very lousy way. Ellen what's her face is an idiot, but he's still getting bashed all over. It doesn't matter if his wit didn't work, it's his highly paid job to do effective promotion, and he blew it at the worst possible time. He has also caused trouble for his co-stars who are going to have to waste time trying to defend him in all their new interviews. He better walk this mess back and soon. Acting Bond is half the gig, promoting it intelliigently is the other half, or else why the huge promotion effort. If SP is a big hit, well then thank goodness for that, and I don't believe the Sony story, but I do think he has definitely damaged his reputation.. I'm a fan of Craig's Bond, but I'm not able to ignore the mess he made of this as it was so damn unnecessary.

    Franchise would be dead on its A%73 if it wasn't for the fact he was "given a blank page" committed to sticking with it through all the problems with QOS, budget, Studio. Combined with Sony leaks cutting him out of promotion income. I think you should appreciate what he's given to the role rather than lambast him over a light hearted joke about how tiring the process has been on Spectre, that he wouldn't do another right away because “I work myself to death,” . “It’s getting harder. But such is life. I’ll keep going as long as I’m physically able". I don't think Dan gets enough respect for what he has put in to the role, Only in Spectre is he credited as a producer but if you ask all that have worked on CR, QOS and Skyfall will say his input and ideas have been key to the recent success as well as his acting.

    Where is the newspaper reports on this?, it doesn't sell papers, Dan leaving and a new Bond does, its simple, the press are using the possibility of Dan's departure to create hype to sell their rags.

    The comments are being giving to a magazine Journo in July!!! during a hectic schedule and they are asking him about, his replacement!, asking him he would do another film. Dan most probably annoyed that the line of questioning is not about the current film and more about delving in to whether he will stay or who's next for his job. The tone of the interview is light hearted but you can read it for yourself the answers become short and abrupt. The Mainstream tabloids have extracted text they have posted parts of his response without the questions which put the responses in context. But morons rather than read the article and have the intelligence to understand the context and humour of the response to a rude journalist would understand that rather than let what's being printed in mainstream media make their judgement for them. Trial by media.

    Dan will appear in the UK with Jonathan Ross, Graham Norton where he is popular with the audience, he will likely do The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon in the US. All of which he will talk about how proud he is of Spectre and that he and Sam Mendes have given it their all and feel they will struggle to better it.

    Spectre I am sure will be a roaring success. Probably set a new Box office records for pre sales, most successful opening weekend and will move in to the top 5 highest grossing movies at the box office of all time.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited October 2015 Posts: 23,883
    smitty wrote: »
    This topic really brought out the Craig haters. DC is a fantastic Bond, a fantastic actor a hidden comedian who' dry wit is misunderstood by the pond life press.

    But the problem isn't the Craig haters or the Craig lovers. They are a very small % of the general audience. EON wouldn't be arranging tons of cover stories and interviews world wide if they weren't trying very hard to influence the general audience. Craig's interview has reached lots of this film audience all right but in a very lousy way. Ellen what's her face is an idiot, but he's still getting bashed all over. It doesn't matter if his wit didn't work, it's his highly paid job to do effective promotion, and he blew it at the worst possible time.

    You don't have to be brilliant to know witty stuff doesn't work well in print and Craig has done 1,000s of interviews. He has also caused trouble for his co-stars who are all going to have to waste time trying to defend him in all their new interviews. He better walk this mess back and soon. Acting Bond is half the gig, promoting it intelliigently is the other half, or else why the huge promotion effort. If SP is a big hit, well then thank goodness for that, and I don't believe the Sony story, but I do think he has definitely damaged his reputation.. I'm a fan of Craig's Bond, but I'm not able to ignore the mess he made of this as it was so damn unnecessary.

    I agree 100% @smitty.

    Rather than hearing good marketing for this film, we are now enduring this nonsense day in day out because a 47 year old man who makes $millions for a living playing someone other than himself idiotically (given the Sony leaks and constant rumours of his successor in 2015 etc.) decided to be honest & himself (rather naively) and add fuel to the fire when doing what should have been a simple interview with a magazine in July.

    I'm a big proponent of DC as well, but if we're being honest, Dalton summarized it best in TLD:

    "That was damn stupid!"
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    Yes, the time to be honest is down the pub with his mates. He is not paid millions to be honest, he is paid to promote the movie and the brand. Its not rocket science. There will come an opportunity for a biography later and that's the time to be honest. But not to Time Out "on the record"
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    edited October 2015 Posts: 4,116
    Doesn't matter whether paid or not ...damage is damage. And he is in fact paid btw.. a lot and part of that responsibility is to promote the film.

    I'm not sure what to make of all of this or of the impact on the performance on the film ..but doesn't matter I still don't like it.

  • edited October 2015 Posts: 187
    LOL This is laughable. I can't honestly imagine how so many of you think so many give a crap about an actor's thought process. Guess what? Nobody cares about what a rich, British actor thinks, only the media do hence why it's getting picked up. The only reason this is getting as much spin as it is is because people love to complain and chastise others on the internet. Come the time this movie comes out, no one is going to care anymore and everyone will go see the movie because it's one of the most profitable and recognizable franchises in cinema history and everyone will leave happy because that's all cinema is; escapism.

    You all are acting like he's running for political office or something. Remember Tom Cruise being an ass and jumping on couches and being an all-around madman? And look at him now, still making hit movies.

    Fact of the matter is; You all are making a much bigger deal out of this than it actually is. This is not a PR nightmare, I've seen PR nightmares and this is far from it. This is a quote that was taken out of context and got picked up. Happens to dozens of actors every single day on big film projects and small. This is the bottom of the barrel of Hollywood problems, people. Let that reality sink in. If Justin Bieber of all people can spit at his fans, piss in a public restaurant, beat up a pap and still have a No.1 hit single, I think DC and 007 will be just fine for an out of context comment.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited October 2015 Posts: 23,883
    @km16, as I said before, I couldn't give a rat's a"" about it.

    It is unhelpful however, and that is fact, whether you like it or not. Look at @doubleoego's (someone who did not care and likely still does not care about it) reaction above to something he read in a paper today. It's just annoying because these kind of things take on a life of their own unless you shut it down.

    Try to be a little more objective and see the big picture here. If on the margin, it negatively affects a few people everywhere (casual fans that is), it will have an effect on how this film is perceived. That's the bottom line, no matter what a few irrelevant peeps (including myself and you) on this message board feel about it.

    He is not running for political office, but he is the 'point man' for a $1bn franchise (actually more when you consider video, licensing, etc. etc.), which is as big of a deal as political office if you ask me, with the same consequences for image. I don't think sponsors will take too kindly to this kind of garbage getting air time on major websites globally (this is not restricted to Time Out any more).

    As I said, unhelpful. That's all. It's his problem and he should walk it back......soon....to diffuse it and let everyone just concentrate on the film.

    If I was head of marketing for this film I'd release some spectacular diversionary rumour about B25 or SP to move the talking heads on to something else.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    edited October 2015 Posts: 4,116
    Cruise's only true hits are really the MI films. Tom's couch hop pretty much destroyed his credibility.

    Craig's interviews aren't near to that level of stupidity to destroy him but they aren't helping this film.

    The complaints are valid and not just Craig hate. I'm a fan and greatly appreciate his contribution to the series.

    Tired of the enlightened posters dismissing the ones with concerns as if we're crazy. We aren't. I'm not overreacting either just expressing my concerns.

    Don't forget the leaks and script drama are being brought up again thanks to Craig.

    And no it's not sofa bouncing but suicidal ideations aren't exactly safe subjects of sarcasm.

    Honestly none of us will know until the film has run its course.
  • RC7RC7
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    Let’s wait and see how the film does.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    The Craig haters argument is lame.
    I thought Craig is universally loved at least that's what I'm constantly told here.
  • edited October 2015 Posts: 187
    bondjames wrote: »
    Try to be a little more objective and see the big picture here. If on the margin, it negatively affects a few people everywhere (casual fans that is), it will have an effect on how this film is perceived. That's the bottom line, no matter what a few irrelevant peeps (including myself and you) on this message board feel about it.

    Unfortunately, my point IS the bigger picture. An out of context comment (which it entirely is) used by the press to paint an unfortunate picture isn't going to damage this film. It's pure bait-and-click. Case-in-point; Matt Damon and The Martian. He said some out-of-context stupid crap and yet look how well The Martian is doing at the box office. Because as long as the film is good, nobody cares. As I said, if pop stars can spit on fans and still get a Number One single, this will be just fine. Hell, rebooting the franchise and casting Blonde Bond potentially turned more people away than some actor's off the cuff comments would, I'd virtually guarantee that.

    Literally anything they do in a film could potentially turn people away. I saw people complaining about 'old' Bond women when Bellucci was cast. I saw people complaining about Seydoux not looking enough like a supermodel to be leading lady material. I've heard all sorts of crap from areas of the internet that potentially turned off more people from the film than these comments probably have.

    The point still stands; nobody outside of this fandom will ultimately give two craps about these comments once the movie is out, just as they didn't care about all the hubbub in the lead-up to Casino Royale and look how that turned out. This is exactly the same thing, only this time instead of the actor himself potentially turning people off, it's a twisted quote. That is the bigger picture here. It's a molehill turned into a mountain by us fans and the media. Everyone else could care less.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Know what? Haven t read a word about this nonsense over here.
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