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What is your favourite Bond score, is it Goldfinger; brassy and iconic, or You Only Live Twice, with it's Oriental themes, and sweeping melodies?
Give a score out of ten, to the Bond films;
DN – 6
FRWL – 9
GF – 10
TB – 10
YOLT – 10
OHMSS – 10
DAF – 8
LALD – 8
TMWTGG – 7
TSWLM – 7
MR – 10
FYEO – 7
OP – 8
AVTAK – 9
TLD – 10
LTK – 8
GE – 7
TND – 9
TWINE – 8
DAD – 8
CR – 8
QOS - 8
My favourite has to be, On Her Majesty’s Secret Service, simply wonderful.
:-), up to you, peeps!
What is your favourite Bond score, is it Goldfinger; brassy and iconic, or You Only Live Twice, with it's Oriental themes, and sweeping melodies?
Give a score out of ten, to the Bond films;
DN – 6
FRWL – 9
GF – 10
TB – 10
YOLT – 10
OHMSS – 10
DAF – 8
LALD – 8
TMWTGG – 7
TSWLM – 7
MR – 10
FYEO – 7
OP – 8
AVTAK – 9
TLD – 10
LTK – 8
GE – 7
TND – 9
TWINE – 8
DAD – 8
CR – 8
QOS - 8
My favourite has to be, On Her Majesty’s Secret Service, simply wonderful.
:-), up to you, peeps!
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FRWL – 10
GF – 10
TB – 10
YOLT – 10
OHMSS – 10
DAF – 10
LALD – 8
TMWTGG – 10
TSWLM – 6
MR – 10
FYEO – 9
OP – 10
AVTAK – 10
TLD – 10
LTK – 7
GE – 10
TND – 6
TWINE – 5
DAD – 5
CR – 1
QOS - 7
FRWL – 8
GF – 10
TB – 10
YOLT – 10
OHMSS – 10
DAF – 10
LALD – 9
TMWTGG – 7
TSWLM – 9
MR – 9
FYEO – 6
OP – 9
AVTAK – 10
TLD – 7
LTK – 6
GE – 8
TND – 5
TWINE – 5
DAD – 4
CR – 6
QOS - 8
Straight 10s from Goldfinger to Diamonds Are Forever, really was the golden age of Bond music.
FRWL – 9
GF – 10
TB – 10
YOLT – 10
OHMSS – 10
DAF – 10
LALD – 9
TMWTGG – 7
TSWLM – 6
MR – 10
FYEO – 7
OP – 9
AVTAK – 8
TLD – 9
LTK – 7
GE – 8
TND – 8
TWINE – 6
DAD – 6
CR – 6
QOS - 6
FRWL – 8
GF – 10
TB – 9
YOLT – 9
OHMSS – 10
DAF – 10
LALD – 8
TMWTGG – 7
TSWLM – 5
MR – 8
FYEO – 5
OP – 8
AVTAK – 9
TLD – 9
LTK – 7
GE – 1
TND – 8
TWINE – 6
DAD – 3
CR – 7
QOS - 8
@ royale65- stick to your guns. You are allowed to like what you like, it's your opinion that counts.
This isn't music, but noise and random notes.
Again, not worthy film music, but mickey-mousing what is happening on screen.
More filler noise, simplistic cue.
Now compare to this :
@DaltonCraig I suppose why I like the Casino Royale soundtrack, is because Arnold makes such a good use of the main title track; check out “I’m the money”. I always enjoy musical scores which reference the title track; it’s what Barry used to do.
FRWL – 9
GF – 10
TB – 10
*CR'67 - 8
YOLT – 9
OHMSS – 10
DAF – 8
LALD – 7
TMWTGG – 7
TSWLM – 7
MR – 9
FYEO – 8
*NSNA - 3
OP – 8
AVTAK – 8
TLD – 10
LTK – 7
GE – 7.5 - In the film; 5 standalone
TND – 4
TWINE – 3
DAD – 4
CR – 4
QOS - 5
FRWL – 9
GF – 9
TB – 10
YOLT – 10
OHMSS – 10
DAF – 10
LALD – 6
TMWTGG – 8
TSWLM – 6
MR – 10
FYEO – 8
OP – 9
AVTAK – 8
TLD – 10
LTK – 8
GE – 7
TND – 7
TWINE – 4
DAD – 6
CR – 7
QOS - 7
CR67 - 8
NSNA - 3
FRWL – 8
GF – 9
TB – 10
YOLT – 10
OHMSS – 10
DAF – 8
LALD – 7
TMWTGG – 7
TSWLM – 1
MR – 10
FYEO – 7
OP – 8
AVTAK – 8
TLD – 9
LTK – 7
GE – 9
TND – 6
TWINE – 5
DAD – 1
CR – 9
QOS - 6
In the action and suspense scenes in particular, there's a lack of compositional structure and restraint. Not enough repetition, and too much dull ambiance.
When you listen to and study John Barry's music, there's always a very disciplined economy to it. Small musical cells are shifted around and developed within a cue or throughout the entire score, with a fine balance between repetition and variation. He understood that the onscreen drama is always of prime importance. So if a scene is better served by a repetitive figure, sustained chord, or better yet - pure silence, he'd respect that. He'd cut to the heart of the drama like a blowtorch through butter. Any unnecessary fat would be removed.
In Arnold's CASINO ROYALE it's the opposite. The film is overscored with a kind of crap muzak that Arnold calls "continuing the spirit of John Barry while keeping it in the 21st Century." He always plays with the action, instead of scoring the mood or motivation under it. Almost like he's trying to compete with the sound effects department. Because of that, it ends up sounding more like some third-rate parody of Alan Silvestri, John Debney, Don Davis or John Powell = than anything like John Barry.
QUANTUM OF SOLACE and DIE ANOTHER DAY are the highlights of David Arnold's Bond career, if only because they've got a shitload of confidence and swagger. In these scores he's also experimenting and trying to find his own voice. It doesn't sound like he's playing it safe, and thanks to that they've some semblance of personality.
DN – 5
FRWL – 8
GF – 8
TB – 10
YOLT – 8
OHMSS – 10
DAF – 9
LALD – 7
TMWTGG – 8
TSWLM – 5
MR – 9
FYEO – 7
OP – 7
AVTAK – 9
TLD – 8
LTK – 6
GE – 8
TND – 4
TWINE – 4
DAD – 6
CR – 3
QOS - 6
Competing with sound effects? Yes
Im really not 'fighting' this but We have to appreciate that the set pieces as set up are much different to those experienced by Barry. The emotion of the scenes also depleted over the Brosnan era. Ultimately if the movie goes left, the music has to go left. White Knight for instance fits perfectly with each shot you see e.g. The all out action, the tension of the missile making its way to the target, the build up is great as we don't see bond until the cig is lit and the bond theme kicks in and we are then treated to the finale as the plane takes off above the oncoming.pilot. If 'surrender' had been the title track we may have all liked it that little bit more as it would have been more relevant. I'm going to shut up now as the thread is not really asking for this but there is more to Arnold than face value. The contributing factors shouldn't be underestimated. Let's hope he draws from that swagger of QOS where he does deal with emotion well and delivers (possibly) next time. I think we are all in agreement on that front. :-)
@Monsieur_Aubergine 'White Knight' from TND doesn't suffer too much from the mickey-mousing syndrome. CR has plenty of this issue, like 'African Rundown' and 'Stairwell Fight'
From Russia With Love- 10
Goldfinger- 10
Thunderball- 9
You Only Live Twice- 8.5
OHMSS- 9.5
Diamonds Are Forever- 7
Live And Let Die- 8
The Man With The Golden Gun- 8
The Spy Who Loved Me- 10
Moonraker- 9
For Your Eyes Only- 10
Octopussy- 9.5
A View To A Kill- 8
The Living Daylights- 9.5
License to Kill- 7.5
Goldeneye- 10
Tomorrow Never Dies- 10
The World is Not Enough- 10
Die Another Day- 10
Casino Royale- 9
Quantum of Solace- 8.5
Skyfall- 8
From Russia With Love- 10
Goldfinger- 10
Thunderball- 10
You Only Live Twice- 10
OHMSS- 10
Diamonds Are Forever- 10
Live And Let Die- 9
The Man With The Golden Gun- 8
The Spy Who Loved Me- 9
Moonraker- 10
For Your Eyes Only- 10
Octopussy- 9
A View To A Kill- 9
The Living Daylights- 9.5
License to Kill- 6
Goldeneye- 7.5
Tomorrow Never Dies- 8
The World is Not Enough- 7
Die Another Day- 7
Casino Royale- 6
Quantum of Solace- 5.5
Skyfall- 6.5
FRWL – 9
GF – 10
TB – 10
YOLT – 10
OHMSS – 10
DAF – 8
LALD – 8
TMWTGG – 7
TSWLM – 7
MR – 10
FYEO – 7
OP – 8
AVTAK – 9
TLD – 10
LTK – 8
GE – 6
TND – 9
TWINE – 8
DAD – 8
CR – 8
QOS - 8
Time to include Skyfall methinks....
Skyfall - 7
FRWL – 9
GF – 8
TB – 10
YOLT – 10
OHMSS – 10
DAF – 9
LALD – 8
TMWTGG – 7
TSWLM – 4
MR – 9
FYEO – 5
OP – 8
AVTAK – 9
TLD – 10
LTK – 7
GE – 8
TND – 9
TWINE – 7
DAD – 7
CR – 9
QOS - 9
SF - 8