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The line about all or most men wanting to be him is hyperbole. You think anyone really wants to be shot at? Of course not. It's the fantasy of being uber cool, suave, super confident, a master of vehicles, highly knowledgable, getting women and being desired by them, eating and drinking the best food to excess and somehow being in great shape and condition, driving awesome cars, travelling all over the world, living an extraordinary life...those select traits and a few otgers being tyrned all the way up to 10 that is appealing.
Can't disagree with any of this, the screenplay & story were too self indulgent.
Keep the PTS...but in the hotel room, as Bond is getting ready to execute Sciarra, he is shocked to see Mr. White in the room with Sciarra and Hinx. He overhears them talking...hears White say something to the effect of "I'd given all of this up years ago...World domination isn't all its cracked up to be, fellas." Then Bond hears some sort of clue. White is executed by Hinx. Bond pulls the trigger. Then the chase ensues. Hinx is seen watching the helicopter fight, from the ground and radios someone. And off we go.
Thus, Spectre is a whole new, rising entity, taking over from Quantum--but far more menacing. White's clues in that hotel room lead him to Madeleine...and so on. Voila! No Bond/Blofeld back story, no Spectre involvement in previous affairs.
He lost me at "world domination"
Makes too much sense, perhaps? Placing White in that hotel room would set the stage a little better imho.
Because you missed the words "something to the effect of..."
But I shouldn't hijack this thread with woulda coulda shoulda. We need a different thread for that. Apologies.
It's certainly going to be interesting to see what they do with the next bond. Are they going to go down the route of a partial OHMSS remake?, or is that going to be too dejavu with Vesper.
I would choose SPECTRE. To kiss and shag Monica Belucci I would endure the drilling into my brain gladly :))
I prefer how it was done to your suggestion, keeping The Pale King reference unknowing it to lead to White would have been great, but like everything else in this movie that surprise was ruined with that amount of trailers and spoilers. had it not been known Jasper Christensen was returning as Mr White this would have been a great moment. The promo ruined the film. The sony leaks that spilled in to the press ruined the surprises. Spectre is only obvious because key surprises were let our of the bag.
Those I can understand.
Yes, sense of duty is admirable.
No need to be condescending. Of course I don't think people want to be shot at. Or tortured and all that. I did say that "even if one ignores the job..." Otherwise, fine. So now you're saying that basically men don't want to be Bond, they just find a few aspects of his lifestyle appealing. That I obviously would understand, not the being Bond line.
I would have envisioned it that they have abducted him (against his will) and want intel. There is no more quantum...those involved have gone into hiding...but spectre has come along and wants to pick up that organization's broken pieces. They've found White and are going to get what they can from him. That's how I would have set it up, to introduce Spectre as a new organization, not one that oversaw things in the previous films.
I really wasn't trying to be condescending at all. But like I said, the line about men wanting to be Bond is hyperbole. It's the few aspects of his life that are attractive.
Don't think that's spoiler guys think that ok to discuss on this thread. I would agree he is still going. I think it is worth pointing out Bautista wrestling experience was probably invaluable to the fight scene realism and aggression. I would think they would want to tap more in to that with next one. He clearly wanted to impress ESB it would not surprise me if he is key to ESB's escape, which considering we have seen a million great escapes in film history will need to be unique and not cliché.
Hmm. I didn't sense that. Hinx is a muscle man. Blofeld introduced him as a challenger to Sciarra's open position, but I thought that was a line of BS.
I liked the MI6 ending, I thought it was reminiscent of something you might find in a Fleming or early cinematic entry. I can imagine Connery or Moore stalking through the building. Yeah, it was very abstract and was borne of fantasy/eccentricity, but that was present throughout. If you want straight down the line believability/reality I can see why you wouldn't like it. As it is the film has a definite spectral feel to it (a conscious directorial choice) and these elements of the bizarre/unreal work for me in this context.
Blofeld didn't introduce him. I thought it was clear he new Guerra (I think that was his name) was actually a bit of a weasel so opened the floor for a better candidate. Hinx then steps in.
At least SPECTRE does it whilst also having the decency to entertain you at the same time...
AMEN !!
Why was Avatar such a hit, is it Cameron's finest work?
Thats what my son does, answers a question with another question, not falling for that one , you first
:)
Why was Avatar such a hit, is it Cameron's finest work?
Yeah, my daughter is good at this too :))
SF without the 50th and the greatest hype ever around a movie would have grossed 750 million.
SF and Bond were constantly EVERYWHERE in the media for two months before SF arrived. IMO
Adele
Must be.