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Oh no. I hate the Brosnan Bond films but I love the Moore ones as Moore could do the comedy well, the films revolved around humour and they didn't try too hard like they did with the Brosnan movies.
From what I've heard about Spectre, it embraces the "Bond formula" far more than anything we have seen in the Craig era. If true, that worries me. Particularly because it strays from the tone and characterization of Bond in CR and QOS, which I really enjoyed.
Characters were thin (Hinx, Swann & Oberhauser), and the plot was a lot more 'leap of faith' than I thought we'd see from Craig & Mendes. Fun action, good lines, and a great performance from Craig.
For Craig's films I'd go:
CR: 9/10
QoS: 6/10
SF: 8/10
SP: 7/10
Yeah, to me it seems strange that we get a Bond who goes from having a fairly serious more Flemingsque personality to a comedian. I haven't seen the film so I won't say too much but it seems like a pretty unrealistic character arc. Why haven't they developed Oberhauser's and Swann's characters more after the decent characterisation that we got in CR and SF? Especially seeing this film is supposed to tie together all the Bond films. Well, if Ober is in the next one then maybe they'll develop him more. Why is it that the Bond team seem to think that to top the previous Bond film that they have to put in more and bigger, less realistic action and comedy instead of enriching the characters and the plot?
For me it's almost same
CR 9/10
QoS 6/10
SF: 9/10
SP: 7(.5)/10
It could have been better and that's what annoys me..it had a potential to be even better. I enjoyed it tho. If I like it after my second viewing..I might even round it up to 8 (or if I don't i'll make it a 7/10)
Spectre is the best of both worlds.
No problem with her acting, i just didn't find her appealing or very memorable...
- Look: nice cinematography, not as crisp and shiny as I would have liked sometimes
- Plot/Screenplay: fairy middle of the road, funny dialog
- Actors:
Waltz: realistic, (i.e. believably psychopathic) portrayal; knocks it out of the park
Craig: great, as usual, although I do love me some tortured Bond
Sedeoux: good but not great
Belucci: great, though only a small part.
Others: top of their game, especially Whishaw
Overall: fun, if not one to talk about for years; went fairly quickly; will see it again
Ah, @Sandy! Glad you enjoyed it. I look forward to reading your ruminations on Spectre.
I don't think that's the case ...not slapstick. More flippant. Craig's Bond has developed rejuvenated at the end of SF. Why not more flippant? He is more confident and the most experienced character as Mendes pointed out in one of the vlogs.
The cinematic Bond hides behind glibs and comebacks I believe. Not necessarily inconsistent with the character arc.
I haven't seen the film of course but just another possible way if looking at it.
Bond is not a comedian in SP.
Still an entertaining two-and-a-half hours that just fly by.
Barbara Broccoli suggests that the unnamed organisation we are aware of by the end of CR has SPECTRE written all over it. I agree with her and their decision to run with it once the rights issue was sorted.
Is Quantum a sub section of SPECTRE??? This is never explained.
It's an entity affiliated with SPECTRE, perhaps a South American branch. The specifics don't matter, whether they work with or for, they operate under the larger umbrella of SPECTRE.
My main grumble would be with the rather flat direction and some shortcomings in the Morroco scenes compared to the script.
Tone wise, it felt very similar to SF for me, really don't know where people are getting the idea that Bond is some sort of comedian in this. A few snarky comments here and there but nothing more. Out of the Craig-era films, I'd put it just behind CR but a country mile ahead of QOS and SF.
Er, spoiler tags?
It's not a spoiler. That is my assumption, not fact.
Quantum makes zero sense. Why would an organization like Spectre have a South American Branch? Everything goes through No 1.
Didn't realise you had a doctorate in asset management concerning evil organisations.
It's fiction. You don't keep Quantum just to please OCD fans when you can have SPECTRE. It's not even an issue.
Of course they ditched them, we all knew that, other than Scaramanga who seems to find it revelatory. It's merely common sense.
If everyone refers to it as differing names so no wonder it has remained a secret organisation for so long.
I feel too many hold on to things way too tightly and are prone to over analyse what is, whatever they may think, action entertainment not a Le Carré story