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When I was referring to "fast paced" Bond films I was referring to the Brosnan era that are too fast paced. While the films that precede these are relatively fast paced, they give you time to breath unlike in the Brosnan era. Spectre is an entertaining film but also disappointing in that there is no real down time like in CR for example, no character movement and just full of plot holes with no real story. We find out that Spectre are the masters behind everything that has happened to Bond and it seems to be executed in such a throw away manner. Honestly, what the hell is going on in the Bond writing department?!
Granted it does go downhill a bit in the third act but it doesn't fall off a cliff like Die Another Day does.
nitpicking aside It's a couple of hours of escapism and fun and i refuse to think that's a bad thing .
I have to say you´re right, @bondjames.
I'm pleased you enjoyed it and hope not too many people clamour to tell you you're wrong to have done so.
There are a few regrettable aspects but it's absolutely not the franchise killing disaster that some profess it to be.
Comments like the film being dirt that deserves to be swept under the carpet are making this a depressing forum as of late.
I have a feeling we got the kind of film we got this time precisely because that's what he wanted. I really don't see where he can go from here creatively without repeating himself.
It's just a matter of maintaining the character movement according to the story. Also, dialogue can be introduced regarding how Bond has developed some qualms regarding killing and without constant danger in his life he becomes bored. You know, stuff straight from the books. There are all sorts of new avenues that can be explored. I always thought that it would be good if some dialogue could be introduced where M accuses Bond of becoming too complacent in the job.
I hated that there was a personal connection between Bond and the villain. I thought that they went too far here. I actually think that it cheapens Bond's back story. It's too Hollywood/cliched.
I didn't expect it to bother me, but it sort of is a theme throughout the film with bond looking at the picture at the beginning and then madaline asking him about it. Like I said, I still really dont know with this one and will have to wait for blu ray
Meh... can't agree that Vienna was well used. It doubled as Bratislava quite well, but the scenes actually set in Vienna were limited to cliched tourist ideas of what the Austrian capitol is about...
Regarding Bratislava, they got the flavour down. It's understandable they didn't shoot there given it was part of the Soviet Union at the time.
Brother from another mother didn't bother me as much as it has others. It was ridiculous but everyone sort of brushed it off when it was revealed during the torture scene, as if it was a throwaway, so I can live with it no matter how contrived it may be.
More upsetting for me was the author of pain retcon. That reeks of TDKR, and so I can't buy it, especially after SF's parallels to TDK. The only difference was Silva was thrown in to the mix here (probably to avoid direct comments about plagiarism) while the Joker was left out of the League of Shadows.
I agree that the blu ray will be key for where this film will sit with me in the canon. I hope they give us something really great, with superior resolution and sound mix, to increase the excitement quotient.
I agree. Really IMO no Bond film is truly dark in tone.
And disagree but neither is any Batman film. Characters like the Joker maybe dark but the film itself not really.
That's just my opinion.
Mendes has said a lot of stuff. Let EoN leave him to talk to himself while we get in a new director who just gets on with doing what should be done instead of blabbing about shoulda, coulda, wouldas.
This. Mendes is an idea guy. He has lots of good ideas (and some less great ones), but for me he struggles to weave them all into a coherent Bond movie.
SF & SP are full of things where I find myself thinking "oh yeah, I see what he's trying to do there...", but they ultimately come across as poorly executed.
I can get on board with the Prater scenes - that is indeed a staple of Vienna and many Viennese go there for a good time. But the waltzing couples in front of Schönbrunn?? That was just plain daft.