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Sean Connery discussing women slapping

PrinceKamalKhanPrinceKamalKhan Monsoon Palace, Udaipur
edited August 2011 in Bond Movies Posts: 3,262


I loved 0:55!
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  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    No comment. Close this thread it's his birthday for crying out loud!
  • LudsLuds MIA
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    He should show how he uses his techniques on Bachmann and Palin ;)
  • BondBond
    edited August 2011 Posts: 503
    Poor Sean having to live through the PC revolution, it must infuriate him. Clint Eastwood recently did an interview where he called political correctness one of the worst things ever.

    I mean really, what's wrong with a man slapping a woman? I and most people have no problem at all with women slapping men when it's deserved, so what's wrong with the vice versa? As long as it doesn't go beyond that, I don't see the big problem aside from extreme feminism/over-reactionary PCness.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    It should be noted that James Bond has not slapped a woman since TMWTGG. BUT, he's been slapped twice in the last 15 years by women - in TND and TWINE.
  • j7wildj7wild Suspended
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    sometime women needs to be slapped, when deserved anything past that is abuse which is unacceptable; and no, I don't believe in PC anymore

    it started out to mean well and not it has gone overboard - like in some parts of the USA you can't even say Merry Christmas because some people will find that offensive

  • BondBond
    edited August 2011 Posts: 503

    it started out to mean well and not it has gone overboard - like in some parts of the USA you can't even say Merry Christmas because some people will find that offensive
    Tell me about it, that particular example is one of my biggest pet peeves. In America — the most religiously Christian of all Western nations — we use terms like "holiday tree" instead of Christmas tree and "Holiday 2011" instead of "Christmas 2011" to avoid acknowledging the word Christmas.

    I'm an atheist myself, but I still celebrate Christmas as a cultural holiday and it's ridiculous to suggest that it should be considered offensive or sectarian. Every Christmas season I feel like the nation as a whole is ignoring the elephant in the room and pretending that "all cultural holidays are equal and all of them happen at the end of December in a grand multicultural fest". :-))

    St. Patrick's Day has a Christian origin and connotation, but we don't say "happy March holidays" during that time, do we? PCness and euphemistic language is nothing but Orwellian word games that a bunch of bored upper middle class Americans came up with to pretend things like Christmas are offensive or oppressive so they could rile up controversy for no reason.

    And if you don't believe me when I say it's that extreme, just look at this Facebook post that Xbox USA made on December 25, 2009... CHRISTMAS DAY!!
  • j7wildj7wild Suspended
    edited August 2011 Posts: 823
    I have to remind my employees every year (I'm in retail) to tell the customers when they leave the store: Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas.

    I still say Merry Christmas BECAUSE

    It is actually the celebration of passing the midpoint of winter. It was a pagan holiday called Saturnalia that the church renamed in its attempt to convert the entire world to Christianity.

    then there is also now the issue of Thanksgiving where people will sue you if they get sick from your Thanksgiving dinner so.....

    use this:

    Thanksgiving Guest Liability and Indemnification Agreement


    ____________________ (hereinafter referred to as "Guest") has been given permission to eat at the table of _____________________ (hereinafter referred to as "Host).

    Guest acknowledges and understands that no warranty, either expressed or implied, is made by the Host as to the nutritional content of the meal. This document is offered in order to duly warn Guest that dangerous conditions, risks, and hazards may lurk in the turkey, stuffing, vegetables, cranberry sauce, fixings, drinks, desserts, appetizers, and any other comestibles that may be served.

    Guest is hereby informed that Host's food may contain any of the following: calories, carbohydrates, sodium (salt), fat, saturated fat, trans fat, polyunsaturated fat, monounsaturated fat, peanuts, sugar, alcohol, tryptophan, caffeine, and good cheer.

    Guest acknowledges that eating may incur risks including, but not limited to, satiation, indigestion, heart burn, dizziness, laziness, heart disease, holiday spirit, "food coma," and "that bloated feeling." Host's meal includes all items served, including those brought by other Guests (including "Grandma").

    If Guest has brought minors to Host's Thanksgiving table, Guest assumes the responsibility for monitoring said minors' eating habits and guarding against hazards at all times.

    As consideration for being allowed by host to enjoy a Thanksgiving meal, Guest hereby indemnifies Host from all liability for personal injury suffered by Guest-which may be caused, in whole or in part, by any element of Host's meal. Guest agrees that neither he/she, nor his/her heirs or personal representatives will sue Host or his/her associates for any injury that Guest suffers, in whole or in part, from consuming food on Host's premises. This indemnification includes an agreement not to haul Host into court on the basis of:

    Failure to provide nutritional information;
    Failure to warn of potential for overeating because food tastes too good and is provided at no cost;
    Failure to offer "healthier alternatives" or vegetarian "tofurkey";
    Failure to provide information about other venues serving alternative, "healthier" Thanksgiving meals;
    Failure to warn that dark meat contains more fat than white meat; and
    Failure to warn that eating may lead to obesity.
    GUEST INDEMNIFIES AND RELEASES OWNER FROM ALL LIABILITY.

    GUEST HAS READ THIS DOCUMENT AND UNDERSTANDS IT. HE/SHE IS SIGNING IT FREELY AND VOLUNTARILY, AND PROMISES NOT TO APPEAR AS A WITNESS IN SUPPORT OF JOHN "SUE THE BASTARDS" BANZHAF, ESQ., AT ANY TIME IN THE FUTURE.

    GUEST: ___________________________ DATE:______________________

    HOST: _____________________________

    WITNESS: __________________________________________________ _____

    WITNESS: __________________________________________________ _____
  • BondBond
    edited August 2011 Posts: 503
    So if you'd rather say Merry Christmas, why do you tell your employees to always say Happy Holidays?

    (sorry to the Brits reading this that have no idea why we Americans talk of such nonsense)
  • j7wildj7wild Suspended
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    So if you'd rather say Merry Christmas, why do you tell your employees to always say Happy Holidays?
    a couple of years ago we had a lady customer that got offended when one of my cashier told her, thank you and have a Merry Christmas.

    She made a big stink about it - she said she was Jewish and Jewish people don't say Merry Christmas.

    By saying Merry Christmas to her - she felt we were discriminating against Jews.

    So are we supposed to say Merry Christmas, Happy Kwanzaa, Happy Hanukkak or whatever float your boat to everyone?

    You can't tell if a person is Jewish just by looking at them!!

    Also, I am Italian and there are Italians who celebrate Epiphany instead of Christmas...

    It's absurd and ridiculous if you ask me!!

  • BondBond
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    Damn, that's unfortunate.... it's funny, because most of the secular Christmas songs from the 19th and 20th centuries were written by Jews, like "White Christmas" and "Silver Bells"...

    But now it seems that rampant PCness has given modern Jews a sense of entitlement about being "offended" by a national holiday that is about as religious as Halloween or New Year's to many Americans.
  • j7wildj7wild Suspended
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    I am not religious and neither is my wife.

    We only started putting up a Christmas Tree... excuse me, Holiday Tree 3 years ago for our kids to admire and look it so they will have their gifts underneath it.

    But in the 7 years we been married, we didn't have a Christmas Tree prior to having kids... excuse me again, Holiday Tree.
  • PrinceKamalKhanPrinceKamalKhan Monsoon Palace, Udaipur
    edited August 2011 Posts: 3,262
    He should show how he uses his techniques on Bachmann and Palin ;)
    Even better, on Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi. ;)

  • BondBond
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    Political and religious debates in this thread now, I love it... >:-)
  • PrinceKamalKhanPrinceKamalKhan Monsoon Palace, Udaipur
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    Political and religious debates in this thread now, I love it... >:-)
    Indeed. Back to the main video, they ought to include Connery doing the same thing to BabaWawa's cohorts on that waste of time and video space a/k/a "The View."
  • GeorgeLazenbyGeorgeLazenby
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    Pierce Brosnan deserved to be slapped by women. And lol at the final second of this vid :)
  • BAIN123BAIN123
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    The usual "I miss the days when men were men" crap has inevitably come up. Maybe it's just me but I always thought anyone slapping anyone should be avoided - ESP men slapping women. If I slapped a woman (and believe me I've come close to doing so) I'd feel bad. Sure some women may deserve to be slapped sometimes (like some men) but does that make it right?

    How many of us here, hand on heart, could slap a woman and not feel some guilt about it afterwards? Not that many id have thought. It's just macho talk.
  • Artemis81Artemis81 In Christmas Land
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    I always found Connery slapping women in the Bond films rather hilarious (and this is coming from a woman). I don't know, it was either the way he did it and how the girls acted on being slapped. The same being true when the women were slapped by the villains, but their reason was more so that they were being mean or the girl was just annoying *coughs* Bibi *coughs*.
  • SirHenryLeeChaChingSirHenryLeeChaChing
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    You have to put personal feelings aside to a degree and look at the context in which the slapping occurs. For one, the period of time. Back then, society didn't have the laws they do now. Women can now report abuse and the police and courts will do something about it. Same with administering corporal punishment to your child at home. Now kids use their phones and call the cops and the parent gets in trouble. Even worse, when it comes to children the law is a "one size fits all" concept in the U.S and doesn't distinguish between genuine abuse and parental discipline. Anyway, Connery's Bond doesn't slap women around because it's fashionable, he does it because sometimes it's necessary to get the information he needs. He clearly doesn't enjoy having to do it.

    I have been married 16 years and have never even thought about hitting my wife. Nor has she has never given me a reason. You don't hurt the people you love if you truly love them. You get mad, you walk away and settle down and discuss the problem rationally. Personally, I love women and I don't believe in hurting a woman unless she has a dangerous weapon and is trying to use it on me. That happened one time to me and and my friend, who was the bouncer at the bar when this occurred. I came out as a backup (in case he had a gun) when he needed to put a stop to this girl's a-hole boyfriend beating her in the parking lot and he refused to stop when my friend told him to. He was drunk and got his brave little pills with my friend and got stomped. Instead of thanking us, the stupid twit pulled a knife on us for helping her. Even then I didn't hit her. I just grabbed her arm and used Aikido (what Steven Seagal does) to twist it until she let go and begged for me to stop. Then she swung on me. I blocked her punch and just laughed, it was so pathetic. What is truly sad is that some women like this one seem to actually like being abused. What can you do?
  • timmertimmer
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    He should show how he uses his techniques on Bachmann and Palin ;)
    Even better, on Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi. ;)

    Both cheeks for Pelosi please, and a bum slap too (both cheeks again) :p
    About Sean and Barbara WaWa. I'll take Sean at his word, but that aside I really do think there was no way on earth he was going to cave for Wa Wa's sanctimonious tone. Not a chance. Sean doesn't roll over for twits like Wa Wa.

  • DoubleOhhSevenDoubleOhhSeven
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    This is another one of my favorites. (Obviously a fake)


  • DoubleOhhSevenDoubleOhhSeven
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    And this one is in honor of Sean's birthday. To the man who defined Bond during a time when movies were allowed to be what they were without the femists and liberals ruining everything.


  • timmertimmer
    edited August 2011 Posts: 4,622
    Notice how Sean mixes up his bum slaps. In FRWL with Tatiana, we see his right-hand, blind, back-hand technique, to indeterminate cheek. No doubt a tricky move to execute. It would seem to require precise timing, otherwise one could find oneself slapping at air, losing one's balance and face-planting. But Sean executes the move smoothly and effortlessly.
    In GF he demonstrates the more straightforward face-front right-hand forehand slap to the right cheek - much to Dink's amusement
  • DoubleOhhSevenDoubleOhhSeven
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    Notice how Sean mixes up his bum slaps. In FRWL with Tatiana, we see his right-hand, blind, back-hand technique, to indeterminate cheek. No doubt a tricky move to execute. It would seem to require precise timing, otherwise one could find oneself slapping at air, losing one's balance and face-planting. But Sean executes the move smoothly and effortlessly.
    In GF he demonstrates the more straightforward face-front right-hand forehand slap to the right cheek - much to Dink's amusement
    Well we are watching the master at work. I love how this is such a common topic. Find me any other film series where slapping women was not only a common occurance but cool at the same time. Damn I love being a Bond fan. We're a unique bunch.
  • SaintMarkSaintMark
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    I think slapping women is wrong, it has nothing to do with PC. Slapping anybody for that matter is not that smart, especially children since it teaches them that violence is a solution when words fail. I have kids so I know how hard it is NOT to smack them occasionaly. But it teaches them the wrong message.

    In the clip however where he gets baggered about slapping women he should most definately slapped that female interviewer she was asking for it. ;-) [-X
  • The_ReaperThe_Reaper
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    Men and women both need to be smacked sometimes. The sex doesn't matter. And go Connery. The guy is the freaking biggest stud ever.
  • timmertimmer
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    There is really no reason for men to slap women. It's not necessary and might also constitute battery.
    But in fairness to Sean as Bond, (as opposed to Sean in real life), he saves his slapping for fairly dire situations, like when people have been killed and he needs answers from seemingly duplicitious women. With men in the same situation, he just beats them up. Women he slaps.
    Sean's bum slapping is legend though :) It's his own friendly alpha male touch.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited August 2011 Posts: 11,189
    Sean's bum slapping is legend though :) It's his own friendly alpha male touch.
    Only Sean could do that and make it look cool. With the others it doesn't quite have the same effect IMO. It's not intended to be malicious or sexist, just fun. I bet the woman who played Dink loved it.

  • timmertimmer
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    And even Sean let it go post 1964. I can only recall the two bum slappies and only from the 2nd and 3rd films.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    About the films, I say this: anyone who takes offence in Connery's bumb slapping needs to lighten up. These women aren't in any physical pain because of it and I doubt they're humiliated. Give it the proper context and it's actually a good moment.

    When Katie Holmes slapped Christian Bale in the face twice in Batman Begins, I didn't hear anyone cry bloody murder. Vesper mentions Bond's arse in Casino Royale. So she noticed, huh? But a man can't comment on a woman's behind or front without accusations of sexism ensuing. And slapping a behind, while hardly any worse, seems totally unacceptable. Believe me when I say that a few carefully chosen words can cause a lot more pain than a Scotsman's firmly shaped hand on a woman's rear in a gesture of playfulness.

    I bet some people will be all over Duke Nukem Forever, where Duke gets to slap triplets of alien boobies...

    As for real life, I'd say it depends. I've taken a few slaps in the face as a kid but looking back on that, it helped. My dad gave me hell when I refused to do something. Talking wouldn't have helped, the slapping did. Wouldn't have dreamed of committing the same 'crime' twice. Would I, however, ever slap my girlfriend / future wife? In a state of sanity, I suppose not. For reasons beyond my capacity of explanation, I find myself too reserved for that. Call it a gut feeling. That said, in a state of absolute rage or fury, everybody's actions become dangerously unpredictable. I wouldn't firmly state that should it come to that, the reservations remain in control. In fact, I speculate that one good slap might be all it takes to cool off - it might be more effective in ending the hellish quarrel than a senseless dialogue full of insults that only fuel harsher insults. Obviously I hope it never comes to that. And I have a good mind never to let it come to that either. I'm just saying that not even the most civilised person is completely devoid of his or her savage moments.

    The playful bumb slapping, however, I have no trouble with. Sure it happens. And why not? It's an underestimated gesture of affection. Besides, most women like it when their man displays a raw physical desire in them. A nice and soft little kicking of the butt with the hands won't happen unless you're attracted to the woman. Don't ever believe what some magazines tell you. Women aren't only interested in pillow talk or sweet cuddles or gentle kisses on the cheeks. They need it confirmed time and again that they can still set their man on fire. You see, when a man gives in to feminist theories about how discussing sex is more important than practising it or about a woman not being an object of desire and whatnot, the flame eventually dies and around 40, the woman herself will end up questioning her own attractiveness. She may give you an angry face each time you smilingly work her bottom, but she'll take it as a compliment nonetheless. I'm not saying all women do. But more than one might think.
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    I loved 0:55!
    LMFAO!!! That was great! It was so serious and a part of me was agreeing with the man and then the very end came and I couldn't stop laughing! Thank you so much for that.
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