Replay! Is it time to remake a Bond film?

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  • Aziz_FekkeshAziz_Fekkesh Royale-les-Eaux
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    Quoth the Broz at the end of the bike chase in TND: "Never!"
  • Two films should be redone:


    'Bond is going through one hell of an action packed adventure, working closely with a Chinese agent (Michelle Yeoh) in order to find out why the British and Chinese are being played against each other.

    Finally, he comes face to face with Rupert Murdoch, I mean Elliot Carver, who explains his demented plan: if Britain and China go to war, he can get broadcast rights inside China.

    Read that out loud. Then shake your head.'




    'Die Another Day, it put Pierce Brosnan in his Bond grave and caused the whole creative team to head back to the drawing board.

    Let’s go down the list:

    a) Madonna theme tune
    b) Korean man has his face changed to that of a smug white British toff
    c) Invisible car
    d) Ice Palace
    e) CGI
    f) Madonna cameo
    g) Rip off of Diamonds of Forever
    h) Hilariously inconsistent laser beam power from satellite
    i) Halle Berry
    j) He’s doing it all to take over South Korea
    k) Makes no sense at all
    l) LOOK AT HIM HE’S GOT DIAMONDS IN HIS FACE. WHAT KIND OF DOCTOR WOULD LEAVE THEM THERE?
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    LeChiffre wrote:
    YES YES YES. Cant believe I've missed this thread! Remke OHMSS or Golden Gun with a proper actor as Bond ie Dan Craig and we may have something to top even Casino and Skyfall.

    I can't say that I'd want to see an outright remake of On Her Majesty's Secret Service, but I think that it might be worth bringing Tracy back to the series and working her into an original story that ultimately ends up with an ending similar to that of OHMSS, so that it can lead into an updated, but faithful version of You Only Live Twice. From there, I wouldn't mind them loosely remaking The Man With the Golden Gun and feature Bond going up against a highly trained assassin.

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    I honestly feel that DAD could be a great film if it was remade, and in a way SF actually took some of the elements of DAD and re-interpreted them.

    Both films essentially set out to de-construct Bond, in DAD we see Bond get tortured for 14 months and in SF he dies. The goal then of the film is see Bond rebuild himself and become Bond again. While DAD established this, it quickly forgot the idea once Bond got out of prison and he was his old self again in moments while SF improved on the idea by having Bond gradually become 007 again throughout the film.

    There are so many examples throughout the series where the filmmakers are taken key story ideas from previous films to essentially be considered loose remakes.

    Moonraker is very similar to TSWLM (less a remake and more of a lazy sequel - similar to to the second Hangover movie by just repeating the beats of the previous successful film)
    AVTAK is a remake of GF
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    A Bond film should not be remade it is totally pointless, but they could use material from a Fleming novel that was not used in the film of the same name and just give it another title?
  • Posts: 1,970
    You Only Live Twice is the movie I want them to remake and make it close to the novel.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I don't feel that there will ever be a good time to remake a Bond film. Look at the timeline: 50 years in, and SF is the highest grossing Bond film - why would we need to remake one? They're great how they are, leave them how they stand.
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    LeChiffre wrote:
    YES YES YES. Cant believe I've missed this thread! Remke OHMSS or Golden Gun with a proper actor as Bond ie Dan Craig and we may have something to top even Casino and Skyfall.

    OHMSS and TMWTGG are great films!

    I agree but would be even better with proper actors!

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    No. It's time to consider an adaptation of a John Gardner or Raymond enson novel. It's time to do something new.
  • I can see Craig ending his tenure with OHMSS...that would be an exciting proposition just like me in my silk boxer shorts.

    Having said that the Vesper story of did it but it could be Craig's bond finding his mojo to love again...I'd like him to do Thunderball..as well.
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    Revisiting FRWL, both the film and the novel, one is reminded that most of Fleming's novels remain unfilmed.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    007InVT wrote:
    The_Reaper wrote:
    MR, YOLT, DAF, TMWTGG et al, need to be adapted for the FIRST time on film. They haven't been yet, neither have a few of the short stories. Use up the rest of Fleming's writings, then think about remaking them.

    Yes, yes, yes.

    All these were not done justice at all and are nothing like the books.

    EON always say they are going 'back to Fleming' but it never really transpires.

    I would also do a faithful FYEO and incorporate the short stories.

    I really see Fassbender in Moonraker and YOLT.

    Fassbender will be too old by then.

    A lot of Bond look to previous ones for--shall we say--inspiration. YOLT/TSWLM is the most obvious, but there is also GF/AVTAK, DAF/MR/DAD, as well as more subtle ones like FRWL/TLD.
  • DB5DB5
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    A faithful "remake" of "The Spy Who Loved Me," based on the original Fleming novel. French Canadian Vivien Michel goes off to London, has two affairs, then returns to Canada and sets off on her Vespa for Florida, only to start working at a seedy motel in the Adirondacks where she encounters two hoodlums and is rescued by our hero, James Bond!
  • DB5 wrote:
    A faithful "remake" of "The Spy Who Loved Me," based on the original Fleming novel. French Canadian Vivien Michel goes off to London, has two affairs, then returns to Canada and sets off on her Vespa for Florida, only to start working at a seedy motel in the Adirondacks where she encounters two hoodlums and is rescued by our hero, James Bond!
    Didn't Fleming specifically forbid that?
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    DB5 wrote:
    A faithful "remake" of "The Spy Who Loved Me," based on the original Fleming novel. French Canadian Vivien Michel goes off to London, has two affairs, then returns to Canada and sets off on her Vespa for Florida, only to start working at a seedy motel in the Adirondacks where she encounters two hoodlums and is rescued by our hero, James Bond!

    I think SF's billion dollar haul could easily be surpassed by this.

  • DB5DB5
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    DB5 wrote:
    A faithful "remake" of "The Spy Who Loved Me," based on the original Fleming novel. French Canadian Vivien Michel goes off to London, has two affairs, then returns to Canada and sets off on her Vespa for Florida, only to start working at a seedy motel in the Adirondacks where she encounters two hoodlums and is rescued by our hero, James Bond!
    Didn't Fleming specifically forbid that?

    Last time I checked, Fleming was dead!

  • timdalton007timdalton007 North Alabama
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    DB5 wrote:
    Didn't Fleming specifically forbid that?

    Last time I checked, Fleming was dead!

    And he was dead when they made the film of Spy Who Loved Me in the 1970s but they still didn't go down that route then so I suspect they wouldn't try doing it now either.

    timdalton007
  • edited November 2013 Posts: 1,970
    I want them to remake YOLT and make it more like the novel was
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I don't want them to remake any Bond novel, ever, at all, for any reason.

    :-)
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    OHMSS AND Golden Gun would be superb with a quality actor such as Dan Craig. Wouldn't mind revisiting Live and Let Die without the humour. Sam Jackson as Mr Big anyone?
  • Posts: 15,105
    DB5 wrote:
    Didn't Fleming specifically forbid that?

    Last time I checked, Fleming was dead!

    And he was dead when they made the film of Spy Who Loved Me in the 1970s but they still didn't go down that route then so I suspect they wouldn't try doing it now either.

    timdalton007

    Even if he had allowed to use whatever they wanted of TSWLM... I don't think it could be adapted faithfully. I actually love the novel, but it is too atypical of other Bond novels and way too small scale for a movie. Bond appearing half way through the film? The Bond girl the main focus? Two low level thugs as villains? A lenghty time spent on the Bond girl discovering love and sex and trying to make a living? There is a great stuff for a movie here, ironically. Even a great movie. But I don't see a Bond movie.
  • I think all previous Bond releases, whether good or bad, should be left alone as they are. See no need for any remakes at this moment in time - if indeed at all

    Then again I thought of Moonraker as Bond didn't venture into space in the novel, but it's such a classic movie release, I don't think they could better it if they tried, so it's better left as we remember it
  • I think all previous Bond releases, whether good or bad, should be left alone as they are. See no need for any remakes at this moment in time - if indeed at all

    Then again I thought of Moonraker as Bond didn't venture into space in the novel, but it's such a classic movie release, I don't think they could better it if they tried, so it's better left as we remember it

    They've already adapted Moonraker in part with GoldenEye and Die Another Day. GE is worthy; DAD is not. There are still some elements (most notably Gala Brand & the ending) that they could adapt. I wouldn't support it during Craig's era, since he needs to get the girl sooner or later.
  • They are still making sequels to CR, but no retreading old films/books please !
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
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    A remake is highly unnecessary, just because the legacy of the franchise is too big and it would be very unwise to tamper with it.
    Sure, the producers can use unused elements from the novels. But no more than that.
  • Never remake any of them. They are great as they are. I want new films.
  • edited November 2013 Posts: 25
    Remake a Bond film? They've been remaking the same film for 50 years.


    Mod edit: Watch the language.
  • Posts: 15,105
    I think all previous Bond releases, whether good or bad, should be left alone as they are. See no need for any remakes at this moment in time - if indeed at all

    Then again I thought of Moonraker as Bond didn't venture into space in the novel, but it's such a classic movie release, I don't think they could better it if they tried, so it's better left as we remember it

    They've already adapted Moonraker in part with GoldenEye and Die Another Day. GE is worthy; DAD is not. There are still some elements (most notably Gala Brand & the ending) that they could adapt. I wouldn't support it during Craig's era, since he needs to get the girl sooner or later.

    There are also elements of the novel MR in SF, although there are more of YOLT and TMWTGG, I think.
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    After watching YOLT again last night, I am convinced more than ever that the time to make new versions of some of the Bond films is at hand. As much as I love the early Bond films and SC is still my favorite Bond, I can no longer dismiss the artistic and technical abuses as part of the charm of the original films. I have always been of the opinion there was a laziness on the part of the producers to overlook some of the problems in story telling and editing and continuity. What a mess this film is. From Henderson's 'stirred' line to flipping frames, a Blofeld plot dumber than anything cooked up by Dr. Evil, Bond miraculously having a Ninja outfit and accessories under his clothes, Blofeld's space cameras capturing the progress of his rocket. The list is endless. Some of these things bothered me the first time I saw the film. With repeated viewings, this film does not get better.

    At this point, only hardcore Bond fans would be upset. I don't think the majority of film goers would be the least bit bothered. Fleming's material is far superior to the original stories concocted by screenwriters. TB has been done twice. CR is in its third iteration.
    Sandwiched between YOLT and DAF, though not perfect, OHMSS is a miracle.

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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