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Filled with hate.
I'm just sick and tired that people imply that I ignore religion and falsely look for alternative motivations. It's.....sick...and that fact alone derails a previous post in which I tried to be very nuanced, by looking at all the aspects and how it's all interconnected. Context is lost. And only parts of my long posts are used and highlighted. Like I'm the 'wealth distribution devil'! Really, it angers me.
I mean come on! Qatar is full of Muslims. But they are insanely rich. And they don't cause terrorist attacks. Fact!
I'm not talking nonsense! I am entitled to have a say about this. But like so many people in here these days, once I do my uttermost best taking all nuances of this complicated discussion, I get slammed for it!
It. Is. Not. Fair.
I want, as anyone else in here, that these terrorist attacks STOP! I do! I woke up this morning and at first I had a bit teary eyes. Really! But then I ask myself the question: How can we make it stop!
Obviously we need to make sure people integrate into society much better! And in the case of France that's a huge problem. But...how?!!? We need to invest on this, especially financially.
Drug dealers, so I'd humbly suggest they didn't want to integrate in the
First place.
Yes, I agree. To a certain extend. I mean, do you really think drug crime and small crime flourishes in rich middle-class suburbs?
Well said sir. In an environment such as this, counterpointing or the expression of opinion is best done without recourse to such.
It is indeed.
Are we able to reason in any way shape or form with fanatics? If not what course of action do we take to safeguard ourselves?
This. In fucking spades.
And this.
And this one the most accurate of all. When Peter Sutcliffe said God told him to go round hammering prostitutes in the head they put him in Broadmoor forever. But the bit that made him insane was the voice in his head of an imaginary bloke sitting on a cloud telling him to commit murder not the fact he had the voice in his head the first place. And we are told that we should respect people who believe this magic cloud man who sits there overseeing the world? Fuck off I've had enough of it. Religion is a lassitude of the mind whether you are one of the peace loving ones or not. It's about time the non-believing majority started protesting and marching that religion be classified as a mental illness because we are sick of it.
Always our fault. Just give them more money, build a mosque on every street corner, translate every street sign into Arabic and implement sharia law and that will sort it.
Always an easy solution for the left - just pour billions of public money down a bottomless pit. If we are going to invest in anything it should be in hospitalising people who believe in God and taking children off religious parents and putting them into care before they get indoctrinated by this garbage.
View everyone in the West as a target, they hate our freedoms, rights and equality
That we all enjoy.
I hope the victims and their families can find some peace.
Obviously, this debate concerns Islam but there is an equal debate to be had re Blair's open admission that he sought devine guidance when dealing with Iraq. They are all equal on the bonkers scale IMHO.
And she supports bringing Sharia Law to the UK...
Let's stop blaming the victims shall we? They were not disgusting capitalist exploiters, they were not racists, even if they had been nothing could have justified or excused this cowardly crime. Their only crime was coming from a secular society proud of its secularism, which angered a celestial tyrant as petty as he's imaginary.
Bravo! =D>
Every time there is another attack, the left reacts with the 'no true Scotsman' fallacy, essentially saying that anyone committing terrorist acts, by definition, can't by a Muslim. Utter rubbish - they're the devote ones.
It's the rules of engagement PC stylee! Contradictory newspeak which attempts to appease & reassure in equal measure.
Unfortunately for all concerned terrorists aren't bound by convention nor do they respond to kind words.
I think you should limit your incompetence to box office predictions.
The cliche "they have nothing to lose" is dead wrong, and we learn that attack after attack, when information is given about the authors.
Stop thinking in terms of Hollywood movies from the 80s where the terrorists are poor guys who are black market dealers etc. Nowadays local terrorism is also "funded" by people asking for a loan of 8.000E from their banks, and who receive them because they have a proper job. And well, look at the profiles of the 9/11 terrorists...
Do I agree with religion? No, I do not. I think it is largely toxic, divisive, manipulative and above all, the greatest tool for fear ever created by man. Tell a bunch of people they'll go to an eternally burning pit if they misbehave, and watch them dance; I truly get the appeal of it as a social tool for order by madmen bent on controlling a populace, but it's grown into its own cancer over time, and quickly. How many people have we lost to fundamentalist, blinding religion in wars, in attacks, in acts of violence, hate and resentment?
With this all said, I do not think religion should be exercised into obscurity or shut down, and certainly not made to be illegal, as that is beyond ludicrous. It should never be that a minority of jackasses like those who orchestrate these attacks should ruin it for the good majority for have a faith that is unattached to this unique brand of hatred and terror. For as bad as the things it may cause are, there are still a majority who practice religion the way it should be done. There are many good people out there who just so happen to be religious, like most of my family, and those people feel a need to believe in a higher power to get them through the day. I think that alone points to how disorderly the world is and how they should be questioning their faith, but there you have it.
I completely get why people need to tell themselves that a man in the sky is looking out for them and doing his best to give them a greater purpose, preparing them for final judgement, and on and on and on. While I cannot believe this, simply because it fails every trial of logic I place in front of it, I would never ask a government to stop people from practicing something like religion as long as it was done correctly. What needs to change in religion are the tenets of the main religions, especially Catholicism, who is the face of it and how we can alter how organized religion is practiced overall. To take a western example, the Vatican shouldn't be the final say on who is a sinner, nor should they be their own private bank at this point who can pay off people to go hush hush on all the very non-Christian things that go on inside its walls so as not to hurt membership worse than it already is. The Vatican in the past was run by men who knew the bible was full of it, and they used their position to exercise their power in ways that made them gods among men and more rich in wealth, influence and control than any man in Rome, men who they brainwashed into believing everything they said.
Nowadays we've got that on a global scale, with popes raging wars against gays and other aspects of our humanity that are natural and born to us, and therefore not wrong. The Vatican thinks what God has given us is beautiful and pure and natural, except if you are homosexual or transgender, in which case it's not God who did that to you, and only your choice alone that needs to be "fixed" before judgement day. In addition, they are still pushing antiquated ideas that priests must remain celibate and not marry, then they act surprised and try to hide it when those very priests develop unhealthy ideas of sexuality and try to get it anywhere they can (like from altar boys) because the church has told them they can't partake in the act of sex, the most natural thing in our biological make-up.
Point being, don't focus on the majority of peaceful practicing religious people. Focus on the major organized centers of it that are brainwashing and leading divisive operations against those seen as different by their marching orders, express from "God." That's where the real change can begin.
O.k. extremism caused by...? Yes you guessed it: religious devotion. When you claim to a divine, revealed truth that should not be questioned, the core of the problem is that claim.
Yeah, you're right, the Vatican are probably behind it. #-o
Schengen only happened for the big companies. It has not brought us anything than trouble and made the rich even richer.
I even don't know anymore who is living in my neighborhood. It could be someone from the East slowly turning into a terrorist, living here since 5 years.
Is this sounding populist? Maybe.
I'm saying this as a social and economic liberal. But the EU overdid it with economic liberalism (it has turned neo-liberal at its core).
I'll never vote right-conservative, but I get why so many people do these days and there will be more and more countries turning far right.
It will do the EU in.
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This latest attack is too close for comfort. I know many people in Cannes and Nice. I'm there every Spring. I have friends there, I couldn't reach any of them up to an hour ago.
And now it has happened. Because now I know someone who is a victim.
I'm devastated and it feels not good. I'm angry beyond words and not sure how to handle my feelings.
My heart goes out to all the relatives of the many victims that were living in a place of harmony and peace in Nice/Cannes. Nothing will ever feel save anymore for most of them.
I'm really holding back on my anger here. Still, I'm glad I can write this down. It helps coping with my feelings.
The dead have to be mourned. But I know personally that being the one "that lived" is not an easy thing to process.
We have to care for the ones that survived and will be damaged for life.
Jason.
The sooner the human race outgrows this childish, naive, prehistoric attempt at philosophy and explanation of our world the better for all of us.