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  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    He wasn't
  • bigladiesmanbigladiesman
    edited March 2016 Posts: 1,009
    1. Implementation of the Theme Song – 7 (I gotta admit the two songs aren't that bad, especially the main theme)
    2. Use of Bond Theme – 0 (of course)
    3. Style – 2 (so, nice, they wanted to use classic jazz mixed with a bit of hodgepodge I'm not bothering to detail. Let me say only that it's an EPIC FAIL in so many levels)
    4. Romance – 5 (well, I guess we can say it's almost average in this)
    5. Excitement – 0 (nope, not an exciting song in all the score)
    6. Brass – 8 (brassy, it is)
    7. Suspense – 1 (if we call that noisy music for Spectre and its awful strings "suspense"... In Spanish, the joke would be easy, as the derived word "suspenso" can mean "fail on a test").
    8. Iconography – 0 (not a chance)
    9. Epicness – 0 (even less of a chance in a score devoid of any action)
    10. Timelessness - 0 (wasn't even appropiate for 1983)

    25/100: As much as I like NSNA even for several of its flaws, this is an unforgivable disaster. Only the two songs contain anything good to say about that.
    Seriously, when I read the producers wanted James Horner and then I hear DIS was Connery's choice... Not only un-bondian, but awful. Seriously, I always thought Legrand is overrated both as a score composer AND as a jazzman: I'd rather pick Claude Bolling any time.


    BLM's Rankings

    NSNA: 25 %
    DN: 35 %
    TMWTGG: 66 %
    FRWL: 79 %
    CR'67 and FYEO: 81 %
    TSWLM: 84 %
    TB and YOLT: 86 %
    DAF and LALD: 88 %
    GF: 91 %
    MR: 93 %
    OHMSS:99%
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited March 2016 Posts: 4,589
    The NSNA title song isn't too bad, very 80s. It certainly brings back memories. true story about my experience with NSNA:

    It's the only Bond film I ever saw in a drive-in, and the circumstances were bizarre. My mother's boyfriend at the time came over, and while she was out running errands after work, he said "Let's go to the movies." I figured this was all good and swell. We got some KFC and saw the movie. I remember that Porky's 2 was playing on the screen next to us, so I kept looking over at that, because there was a lot of T&A on that screen.

    Turns out, the boyfriend had technically kidnapped me. When we got home, the police were there. He was arrested! True story!

    I can't hear the NSNA title song without tasting the KFC!

    Sorry: a bit off track, but I had to share.
  • bigladiesmanbigladiesman
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    Wow, man, this is some story.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,266
    Never Say Never Again, 1983

    1. Theme Song – 5 (A different singer wouldn't have been a bad choice.)
    2. Use of Bond Theme - 0
    3. Style – 2 (What was Legrand thinking?)
    4. Romance – 6 (Though it does sound a lot more like an 80s porn flick.)
    5. Excitement - 1 (The motor - car chase... enough said.)
    6. Brass – 2
    7. Suspense - 1
    8. Iconography – 0
    9. Epicness – 0
    10. Timelessness – 0

    17%

    DD's Rankings

    Never Say Never Again - 17%
    Dr. No – 57%
    For Your Eyes Only - 60%
    Live And Let Die - 61%
    Casino Royale '67 - 66%
    The Spy Who Loved Me - 70%
    The Man With The Golden Gun - 75%
    From Russia With Love - 77%
    Moonraker - 81%
    Goldfinger - 82%
    Thunderball - 83%
    You Only Live Twice - 85%
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service - 89%
    Diamonds Are Forever - 93%

  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    @DarthDimi, did you watch a lot of porn flicks in the 80s?
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Rounding up at the weekend folks
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
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    I'm also going to sit this one out. I will join you again for OP.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Right then, let's get this aborted score, nay movie, out of the way.

    Community Scores -
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service – 95.08%
    You Only Live Twice – 89.72%
    Moonraker - 86.27%
    Goldfinger – 86%
    Diamonds Are Forever – 85.4%
    Thunderball – 85.08%
    The Spy Who Loved Me – 79.7%
    Live and Let Die - 79.6%
    From Russia With Love – 77.5%
    The Man With The Golden Gun – 72.4%
    For Your Eyes Only – 71.27%
    Casino Royale '67 - 70.87
    Dr. No – 51.45%
    Never Say Never Again – 29.75%


    Hopefully this will be the bottom dweller for ever more.

    See you later for the next 'un...

    James Bond will return in Octopussy!
  • vzokvzok
    Posts: 4,045
    Wow, not even close to Dr No
  • mepal1mepal1
    Posts: 1,098
    I liked NSNA but the music score from Michel Lamont was probably the worst, most inappropriate music score ever written for a film. I find it quite staggering that Legrand was Connery's choice of composer for the film, when the producer actually wanted James Horner (of Aliens fame, and many others) to of composed the music.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    edited March 2016 Posts: 4,423
    Octopussy, 1983

    1. Implementation of the Theme Song – 8
    2. Use of Bond Theme – 8
    3. Style – 8 (slight repetition)
    4. Romance – 9
    5. Excitement – 9
    6. Brass – 8
    7. Suspense – 10 (“there's a bomb in your cannon!”)
    8. Iconography – 7
    9. Epicness – 7
    10. Timelessness –9
    83/100

    royale's Rankings -

    On Her Majesty's Secret Service – 98%
    You Only Live Twice – 94%
    Goldfinger – 94%
    Moonraker – 90%
    Diamonds Are Forever 90%
    Thunderball – 89%
    The Spy Who Loved Me – 85%
    Octopussy – 83%
    From Russia With Love – 83%
    Live and Let Die – 81%
    For Your Eyes Only – 79%
    The Man With The Golden Gun – 69%
    Dr. No – 69%   
    Casino Royale, '67 – 62% 
    Never Say Never Again – 38%

    How fitting that OP's score is 83...
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,266
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    @DarthDimi, did you watch a lot of porn flicks in the 80s?

    @Thunderfinger
    Yes, I did. At age 6, I was already getting my share of Bambi Woods.


    Octopussy, 1983

    1. Theme Song – 7 (Slightly underrated IMO.)
    2. Use of Bond Theme - 7
    3. Style – 8
    4. Romance – 10 (One of the most romantic of the Bond scores though seldom credited as such.)
    5. Excitement - 8
    6. Brass – 7
    7. Suspense - 8 (I'll always give Barry a lot of credit for that wonderful suspense music we hear when Bond reveals himself to 8Pussy and the General in the circus.)
    8. Iconography – 8
    9. Epicness – 6
    10. Timelessness – 6

    75%

    DD's Rankings

    Never Say Never Again - 17%
    Dr. No – 57%
    For Your Eyes Only - 60%
    Live And Let Die - 61%
    Casino Royale '67 - 66%
    The Spy Who Loved Me - 70%
    The Man With The Golden Gun - 75%
    Octopussy - 75%
    From Russia With Love - 77%
    Moonraker - 81%
    Goldfinger - 82%
    Thunderball - 83%
    You Only Live Twice - 85%
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service - 89%
    Diamonds Are Forever - 93%

  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    Posts: 5,080
    Octopussy, 1983

    1. Implementation of the Theme Song – 10
    2. Use of Bond Theme – 8
    3. Style – 8
    4. Romance – 10
    5. Excitement – 10
    6. Brass – 8
    7. Suspense – 10
    8. Iconography – 8
    9. Epicness – 8
    10. Timelessness –9

    89/100

    Another Barry corker.

    MayDay's score ranking
    DN- 42%
    FRWL- 78%
    GF- 91%
    TB- 78%
    CR'67- 62%
    YOLT- 92%
    OHMSS- 98%
    DAF- 79%
    LALD- 82%
    TMWTGG- 74%
    TSWLM- 87%
    MR- 96%
    FYEO- 90%
    NSNA- 22%
    OP- 89%
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
    edited March 2016 Posts: 7,314
    Octopussy

    1. Implementation of the Theme Song – 7
    2. Use of Bond Theme – 8
    3. Style – 7
    4. Romance – 8
    5. Excitement – 7
    6. Brass – 7
    7. Suspense – 8
    8. Iconography – 6
    9. Epicness – 7
    10. Timelessness – 7

    Final Score - 72%

    This one provided the template for Barry's 80's output. You can definitely hear how parts of AVTAK and TLD developed from this score. The use of the Bond theme was more prominent due to the competition of NSNA. He really wanted to make a point that this was the authentic James Bond.

    The theme song is okay, I suppose, but it doesn't feel very Bond-like. It does give off a cheesy, "soft rock" vibe. I suppose with Barry and Moore getting older this was appropriate. Interesting how they decided to inject the youthful energy of Duran Duran next time around, but we'll discuss that later.

    Overall, it's another pleasing effort from Barry. Suspenseful, exciting, elegant etc... Many would be lucky to come up with something this good but for Barry it's not quite at the same level as his best work. He just set the bar so incredibly high during his 60's peak. That was his true "all time high." Sorry, I couldn't resist.

    pachazo's picks
    1) YOLT - 93%
    2) OHMSS - 92%
    3) DAF - 87%
    4) TB - 83%
    5) GF - 82%
    6) LALD - 80%
    7) MR -79%
    8) TSWLM - 75%
    9) FRWL - 73%
    10) OP - 72%
    11) FYEO - 71%
    12) TMWTGG - 67%
    13) DN - 52%
  • GBFGBF
    Posts: 3,198
    Octopussy

    1. Implementation of the Theme Song – 10
    2. Use of Bond Theme – 10
    3. Style – 9
    4. Romance – 10
    5. Excitement – 9
    6. Brass – 8
    7. Suspense – 10
    8. Iconography – 8
    9. Epicness – 9
    10. Timelessness – 9

    Final Score - 92%

    How can people not give this score a 10/10 for romance and suspense. I think this film has the most romantic and most suspensefull score of all Bond films. The adaptation of "all time high" in the film is just amazingly beautifull.
  • GBFGBF
    Posts: 3,198
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    @DarthDimi, did you watch a lot of porn flicks in the 80s?

    1. Theme Song – 7 (Slightly underrated IMO.)

    Shouldn't we rate the adaptation of the theme song here? I don't think the song is very great but its adaptation in the film is among the best in the whole franchise.
  • vzokvzok
    Posts: 4,045
    Octopussy

    1. Implementation of the Theme Song – 8
    2. Use of Bond Theme – 8
    3. Style – 8
    4. Romance – 10
    5. Excitement – 9
    6. Brass – 8
    7. Suspense – 9
    8. Iconography – 8
    9. Epicness – 8
    10. Timelessness – 8

    Final Score: 84%


    vzok ratings:

    OHMSS - 93
    Moonraker - 92
    Diamonds - 89
    You Only Live Twice - 84
    Octopussy - 84
    Live And Let Die - 81
    Spy Who Loved Me - 79
    From Russia - 76
    CR67 - 75
    Thunderball - 75
    Goldfinger - 73
    Golden Gun - 67
    FYEO - 64
    Dr No - 56
    NSNA - 17
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,423
    Boom! Last chance to vote peeps!
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    Octopussy

    1. Implementation of the Theme Song – 8
    2. Use of Bond Theme – 8
    3. Style – 9
    4. Romance – 10
    5. Excitement – 10
    6. Brass – 9
    7. Suspense – 9
    8. Iconography – 9
    9. Epicness – 9
    10. Timelessness – 10

    Final Score: 91%
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 7,222
    Octopussy

    1. Theme Song – 7
    2. Use of Bond Theme – 6
    3. Style – 9
    4. Romance – 8
    5. Excitement - 9
    6. Brass – 7
    7. Suspense – 9
    8. Iconography – 7
    9. Epicness – 7
    10. Timelessness – 8

    Overall: 77%

    On Her Majesty's Secret Service: 97%
    You Only Live Twice: 93%
    Thunderball: 85%
    The Spy Who Loved Me: 82%
    Moonraker: 81%
    From Russia with Love: 78%
    Diamonds Are Forever: 78%
    Goldfinger: 77%
    Octopussy: 77%
    The Man with the Golden Gun: 77%
    Live and Let Die: 75%
    For Your Eyes Only: 68%
    Dr. No: 49%
  • tanaka123tanaka123
    edited April 2016 Posts: 4,325
    Octopussy, 1983

    1. Implementation of the Theme Song – 7
    2. Use of Bond Theme – 7
    3. Style – 9
    4. Romance – 8
    5. Excitement - 8
    6. Brass – 7
    7. Suspense – 9
    8. Iconography – 7
    9. Epicness – 7
    10. Timelessness – 8

    77%

    Tanaka123 Rankings

    You Only Live Twice - 89%
    Goldfinger - 86%/ On Her Majesty's Secret Service - 86%
    Thunderball - 81%/ Moonraker - 81%
    Diamonds Are Forever - 79%
    Octopussy - 77%
    Live and Let Die - 75%
    From Russia with Love - 74% / For Your Eyes Only - 74%
    The Spy Who Loved Me - 73%
    The Man with the Golden Gun - 66%
    Dr. No - 52%
  • bigladiesmanbigladiesman
    edited April 2016 Posts: 1,009
    Octopussy

    1. Theme Song – 8 (not bad, but not memorable. Miss Coolidge was one of the great female voices of the era and shows: she croons well. However, as an instrumental love theme, works much better).
    2. Use of Bond Theme – 6. (I don't remember hearing it very often, but Vijay using it as passcode is a comical treasure).
    3. Style – 8 (Following MR's sountrack conventions, Barry does an orchestral score: not as epic as MR's, but much more down-to-earth and average listener-friendly).
    4. Romance – 9 (as stated before, the main theme is a wonderful love theme)
    5. Excitement - 8 (your typical adventure movie score, but by john Barry. Guaranteed)
    6. Brass – 7 (as brassy as orchestral scores go)
    7. Suspense – 9 (again, it's Barry and "suspense" goes with him: the music where Octopussy thinks Bond has died eaten by crocs is a good proof)
    8. Iconography – 7 (not that memorable despite being a notable score)
    9. Epicness – 9 (just a bit less epic than MR's, shows it has moments of grandeur)
    10. Timelessness – 10 (as I always says, an orchestral score very rarely gets old)

    Overall: 77%: Don't let the lower position fool you. OP score seems to grow on me: at first I thought it was derivative and forgettable despite its good execution and sounded like a demo for the mesmerizing Out Of Africa score. However, I learned to value its merits over time).

    NSNA: 25 %
    DN: 35 %
    TMWTGG: 66 %
    OP: 77 %
    FRWL: 79 %
    CR'67 and FYEO: 81 %
    TSWLM: 84 %
    TB and YOLT: 86 %
    DAF and LALD: 88 %
    GF: 91 %
    MR: 93 %
    OHMSS:99%
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    The theme song here is the fourth ballad performed by a female artist in a row. I remember thinking in 1983 that this was what it had come to for all eternity. Glad I was wrong.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,423
    Right then, let's get this aborted score, nay movie, out of the way.

    Community Scores -
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service – 95.08%
    You Only Live Twice – 89.72%
    Moonraker - 86.27%
    Goldfinger – 86%
    Diamonds Are Forever – 85.4%
    Thunderball – 85.08%
    Octopussy - 81.09%
    The Spy Who Loved Me – 79.7%
    Live and Let Die - 79.6%
    From Russia With Love – 77.5%
    The Man With The Golden Gun – 72.4%
    For Your Eyes Only – 71.27%
    Casino Royale '67 - 70.87
    Dr. No – 51.45%
    Never Say Never Again – 29.75%


    Rather varied - the scores ranged from mid-70's to mid 90's .

    See you later for the next 'un...

    James Bond will return in A View To A Kill!
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,423
    Round about now in fact....

    A View To A Kill, 1985

    1. Implementation of the Theme Song – 10 (I love it as a romantic piece.)
    2. Use of Bond Theme – 8
    3. Style – 8
    4. Romance – 9
    5. Excitement – 9
    6. Brass – 8
    7. Suspense – 9
    8. Iconography – 7
    9. Epicness – 7
    10. Timelessness –9

    84/100

    royale's Rankings -

    On Her Majesty's Secret Service – 98%
    You Only Live Twice – 94%
    Goldfinger – 94%
    Moonraker – 90%
    Diamonds Are Forever 90%
    Thunderball – 89%
    The Spy Who Loved Me – 85%
    A View To A Kill – 84%
    Octopussy – 83%
    From Russia With Love – 83%
    Live and Let Die – 81%
    For Your Eyes Only – 79%
    The Man With The Golden Gun – 69%
    Dr. No – 69%   
    Casino Royale, '67 – 62% 
    Never Say Never Again – 38%

    Just squeaking in ahead of OP
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    Posts: 5,080
    A View To A Kill, 1985

    1. Implementation of the Theme Song – 10
    2. Use of Bond Theme – 8
    3. Style – 10
    4. Romance – 10
    5. Excitement – 10
    6. Brass – 8
    7. Suspense – 10
    8. Iconography – 10
    9. Epicness – 10
    10. Timelessness –9

    95/100

    MayDay's score ranking
    DN- 42%
    FRWL- 78%
    GF- 91%
    TB- 78%
    CR'67- 62%
    YOLT- 92%
    OHMSS- 98%
    DAF- 79%
    LALD- 82%
    TMWTGG- 74%
    TSWLM- 87%
    MR- 96%
    FYEO- 90%
    NSNA- 22%
    OP- 89%
    AVTAK- 95%
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,266
    A View To A Kill, 1985

    1. Theme Song – 10 (A powerhouse of a song.)
    2. Use of Bond Theme - 6 (A bit on the cheap side to have the Bond Theme play during the Paris traffic mayhem scene...)
    3. Style – 9
    4. Romance – 9 (I love the romantic renditions of the theme song.)
    5. Excitement - 9 (Oh!)
    6. Brass – 8
    7. Suspense - 9 (Some flutes, given the magic Barry touch, deliver all you need.)
    8. Iconography – 9 (Jup, great!)
    9. Epicness – 9
    10. Timelessness – 9

    87%

    DD's Rankings

    Never Say Never Again - 17%
    Dr. No – 57%
    For Your Eyes Only - 60%
    Live And Let Die - 61%
    Casino Royale '67 - 66%
    The Spy Who Loved Me - 70%
    The Man With The Golden Gun - 75%
    Octopussy - 75%
    From Russia With Love - 77%
    Moonraker - 81%
    Goldfinger - 82%
    Thunderball - 83%
    You Only Live Twice - 85%
    A View To A Kill - 87%
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service - 89%
    Diamonds Are Forever - 93%

  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    A View To A Kill, 1985

    1. Theme Song – 11 (The best song ever, even outside the Bond franchise)
    2. Use of Bond Theme - 10
    3. Style – 10
    4. Romance – 10
    5. Excitement - 10
    6. Brass – 10
    7. Suspense - 10
    8. Iconography – 10
    9. Epicness – 10
    10. Timelessness –10

    100% (and one)

    Unparalleled, unmatched, perfect.
  • tanaka123tanaka123
    Posts: 4,325
    A View to a Kill, 1985

    1. Implementation of the Theme Song – 9
    2. Use of Bond Theme – 6
    3. Style – 8
    4. Romance – 8
    5. Excitement - 8
    6. Brass – 7
    7. Suspense – 6
    8. Iconography – 7
    9. Epicness – 8
    10. Timelessness – 8

    75%

    Tanaka123 Rankings

    You Only Live Twice - 89%
    Goldfinger - 86%/ On Her Majesty's Secret Service - 86%
    Thunderball - 81%/ Moonraker - 81%
    Diamonds Are Forever - 79%
    Octopussy - 77%
    Live and Let Die - 75% / A View to a Kill - 75%
    From Russia with Love - 74% / For Your Eyes Only - 74%
    The Spy Who Loved Me - 73%
    The Man with the Golden Gun - 66%
    Dr. No - 52%
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