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Well, I'm afraid I'm beyond remaining polite when your comments are beyond absurd. Gee, if you're insulted by a half serious comment on an Internet forum, good luck in life, my friend.
Again, your haven't made any point. You have been proven wrong, take it on the chin, and bow out gracefully.
The usual rule is that whatever it looks like, Bond is only shown to get hurt if it's a plot point. So if he's not smarting from landing badly on his right shoulder, that's just Bond.
I agree completely with this. QoS's pretitle is a work of art on many levels. Sometimes I think that movie is ahead of its time or on a different plane. There is some genius to some of the sequences, but like all work of genius it's difficult to fully fathom immediately.....it grows on you......a real slow burner. The same applies to the Opera sequence.
The first time I saw the pretitles in the theatre I was nearly cursing at the editing choices. Now when I see it I understand what Forster was trying to achieve. It's visceral. Almost like you're in a fight. It's immediate. It's exhausting.
The opening shot of the Italian lake to the mountain to the Aston's bonnet to the wheels spinning to the revs of the Aston's V12 are a masterclass in audio/visual work. It starts off like a beautiful quiet dream and.......then you're awoken by a brutal, violent, vicious nightmare. Craig does a magnificent job of acting Bondian while his car is ripped to shreds and spun around, and the shooting angle from inside his car adds to the drama.
These guys really don't get the credit they deserve for being inventive with that sequence. It is genius. Maybe they should have inserted a few more wide long range shots from time to time for a second or two to take us away from the sheer brutality of the events on the ground....that may have helped to improve perceptions.
It's such a shame that this work of art segues into that unmelodious, mangled title track. It deserved so much more. Perhaps they were trying with the title track to create the same discomfort as the opening scene had. If that was their objective, they succeeded. I become very uncomfortable every time I hear it. Thank goodness for 'fast forward'
Again, your haven't made any point. [/quote]
Actually I have. Since Bond did not bounce when he landed, nor did the ground give when he rolled downward, it's a solid enough of a surface for him to get injured. It's completely inconsistent, whether he then 'hurt' his shoulder subsequently seems to be not thought out clearly at the very least.
I can look at and enjoy Bond films through an objective perspective, not a sycophantic filter.
The opening of QoS is pretty amazing, and my esteem for that picture grows. Is it perfect? Nope, and they do seem to run out of story in the second act, but lots of poignant stuff to enjoy and the impressive action set pieces.
I think it's fair to state that at the very least the result of the action simply was not explained very clearly, during the action and afterwards.
Appreciate that, Chris.
I can look at and enjoy Bond films through an objective perspective, not a sycophantic filter.[/quote]
I can enjoy Bond films and critique them without piping up blithering comments about so called continuity errors.
Bond falls from rope. Bond lands on back. Bond rolls down the dome, injures left shoulder on cable. End of. I find it curious that none one, at least on this forum, has never had a problem making out what happens in this scene...apart from you.
When he lands on the dome without injuring his shoulder first, we can assume that this is because he is...uhm, Bond??
Funny you don't have a problem with Craig turning up perfectly fine in Greece after a 100ft fall from a bridge into a river. But no, it's probably because it's a Brosnan film...
In fairness @doubleohdad, your comment was referring to the Q boat, not the police boat.
And I did have an issue with the Craig stuff in Greece despite that his 'death' is explained in the subsequent MTS both literally and metaphorically. It's a statement of theme, but I certainly would have preferred he not fall from that height, but the quality of each picture is a different matter from whether an individual plot point or stunt is worked out to maximum efficiency.
And it's 'Bond falls from rope…lands on shoulder'.
After the baddies car crashes, look carefully, you'll be able t osee one of the bodies falling out of the car. Just an awesome sequence.
Nope, I put the *Blu Ray on because all this talk made me want to watch it ;) To be honest, I haven't watched a Bond film since two weeks ago, so I needed to be replenished.
Looking at YouTube footage, it seems he actually falls on his left arm, with his elbow hitting first.
Oh, and the splitting hairs comment is a little rich...
Anyway, add me to the list of the few people who like the YOLT PTS. John Barry, nuff said.
Other than your dislike of OP overall @Birdleson what about the PTS of OP do you feel makes it so bad.
Even if you dislike the film as a whole, the PTS of say DAD, DAF, AVTAK, TWINE, LALD would surely rank lower.
"Shocking" opener in GF
The ski chase in TSWLM
The meeting with Dreyfus (in glorious B&W) in CR
I love the bungee jump in GE, but the sequence ends with a ridiculous free-fall into an unmanned airplane. No go.
The worst?
The ski chase in AVTAK...ugh, that Beach Boys music. Gag.
Gimme a break.
PTS-wise, I'd rank them like this:
Classic: TB, GE
70's, '80's: TLD
Modern: GE, CR, SF
1. GE
2. TWINE
3. TMWTGG
4. SF
6. CR06
7. TND
8. DAD
9. TLD
10. OHMSS
Honorable Mentions: AVTAK, TSWLM, MR, YOLT, OP
Least favorites: LTK, FYEO, DAF
1. TWINE
2. GE
3. TND
4. TLD
5. OP
6. LTK
7. DAD
8. TSWLM
9. MR
10. DRNO...joke...AVTAK
Least good:
1. CR
2. SF
3. DRNO...joke...(I'm probably drunk :P ) FYEO
least favourite, is either LALD or TMWTGG.
Is it because they don t feature Bond?
at least a little weird a bit Flemingesque, so it may be as you
point out, No Bond.
I agree with you that FYEO is up there. It's actually really impressive and executed brilliantly.
For me the best are:
1. TSWLM
2. MR (despite Jaws joke)
3. TND
4. TLD
5. OP
6. GE
7. OHMSS (Barry's absolutely wonderful score plays a big part)
8. CR
Bottom of the pile are
1. DAF
2. LALD
3. TMWTGG
4. TWINE
5. DAD