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  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    edited September 2011 Posts: 13,999
    Claiming the top spot: The Living Daylights

    A bit of intrigue, suspense, action and the classic 'Exercise On Gibralter' track from Mr Barry. =D>



    That makes me want to watch the film right now. But no, I have a Bondathon to stick to.
  • JWESTBROOKJWESTBROOK
    Posts: 5,745
    Idk. Ive always thought dalton looked funny when he runs. In all of his movies. This is definitely a classic pts though!
  • 00Beast00Beast
    Posts: 4,762
    1960's
    Goldfinger (despite it being #21 on my list, I always enjoy the PTS)

    1970's
    Moonraker

    1980's
    A View to a Kill (I've always loved that ski chase!)

    1990's
    GoldenEye

    2000's
    Die Another Day
  • JWESTBROOKJWESTBROOK
    Posts: 5,745
    00Beast wrote:
    2000's
    Die Another Day

    Better than Casino Royale?!
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    I don't understand how GF's PTS is rated so high for many. It makes absolutely no sense, considering we have no idea what Bond even did when he set off the explosion. The only parts that escape the convoluted are the great dinner jacket and fight near the end.
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    Goldfinger
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    As for me, I am a stickler for noir, so CR is an easy choice, it alone being a great succession of shots full of great dialogue and action. FRWL is great to see your first time, as you think it is actually Bond dying, until you learn otherwise, so that is always fun. I love TB. The great fight, the escape by jet pack and then the DB5 making a classic return. YOLT is equally interesting to see your first time, and the intrigue following with a mystery over Bond's fate is interesting. TLD and LTK are also very good. I love TLD's fast and frantic end car chase, with Bond fighting from the roof of the car, and seeing Smiert Spionam is chilling as the haunting message carries through the film. LTK is pretty great as well, with a naive Felix and company risking their lives on his bloody wedding day of all things. Bond's retrieval of Sanchez's plane and his drop with Felix straight in front of the church is awesome.
  • SirHenryLeeChaChingSirHenryLeeChaChing
    Posts: 3,494
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    I don't understand how GF's PTS is rated so high for many. It makes absolutely no sense, considering we have no idea what Bond even did when he set off the explosion. The only parts that escape the convoluted are the great dinner jacket and fight near the end.

    He set a timer to detonate the plastic explosives. Then he nonchalantly lights up a smoke when the timer was due to go off so it didn't look like he was waiting for something to happen. It's fairly obvious that Ramirez was aware of his presence there and watching him. I'm surprised you missed all this, you're usually much more observant.

    So many great PTS' in this series, I'll have to recall them. MR, GE, and DAD for sure won't be among them.

  • SharkySharky
    Posts: 266

    1960's
    Goldfinger (but i also like From russia with love's)

    1970's
    Moonraker (but close call with the spy who loved me)

    1980's
    The living daylights

    1990's
    The world is not enough

    2000's
    Casino royale
  • 00Beast00Beast
    Posts: 4,762
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    00Beast wrote:
    2000's
    Die Another Day

    Better than Casino Royale?!

    Sorry, but yes! I've always been a fan of the longer pre-title sequences, and Die Another Day delivers on that note. Also, the hovercraft chase is pretty sweet! Brosnan is ultra-cool in the DAD PTS! I also rather like the short fight between Bond and Colonel Moon aboard the big hovercraft towards the end.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    I don't understand how GF's PTS is rated so high for many. It makes absolutely no sense, considering we have no idea what Bond even did when he set off the explosion. The only parts that escape the convoluted are the great dinner jacket and fight near the end.

    He set a timer to detonate the plastic explosives. Then he nonchalantly lights up a smoke when the timer was due to go off so it didn't look like he was waiting for something to happen. It's fairly obvious that Ramirez was aware of his presence there and watching him. I'm surprised you missed all this, you're usually much more observant.

    So many great PTS' in this series, I'll have to recall them. MR, GE, and DAD for sure won't be among them.

    No, that I understand perfectly. What I find convoluted is what he blows up. Something about morphine flavored bananas or something?
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    Posts: 11,189
    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    I don't understand how GF's PTS is rated so high for many. It makes absolutely no sense, considering we have no idea what Bond even did when he set off the explosion. The only parts that escape the convoluted are the great dinner jacket and fight near the end.

    He set a timer to detonate the plastic explosives. Then he nonchalantly lights up a smoke when the timer was due to go off so it didn't look like he was waiting for something to happen. It's fairly obvious that Ramirez was aware of his presence there and watching him. I'm surprised you missed all this, you're usually much more observant.

    So many great PTS' in this series, I'll have to recall them. MR, GE, for sure won't be among them.

    What's wrong with those two?
  • 00Beast00Beast
    Posts: 4,762
    BAIN123 wrote:
    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    I don't understand how GF's PTS is rated so high for many. It makes absolutely no sense, considering we have no idea what Bond even did when he set off the explosion. The only parts that escape the convoluted are the great dinner jacket and fight near the end.

    He set a timer to detonate the plastic explosives. Then he nonchalantly lights up a smoke when the timer was due to go off so it didn't look like he was waiting for something to happen. It's fairly obvious that Ramirez was aware of his presence there and watching him. I'm surprised you missed all this, you're usually much more observant.

    So many great PTS' in this series, I'll have to recall them. MR, GE, for sure won't be among them.

    What's wrong with those two?

    He dissed the GoldenEye pre-titler sequence.......oh my goodness.....my rage meter is rising rapidly!!!!
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited July 2012 Posts: 11,189
    00Beast wrote:
    BAIN123 wrote:
    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    I don't understand how GF's PTS is rated so high for many. It makes absolutely no sense, considering we have no idea what Bond even did when he set off the explosion. The only parts that escape the convoluted are the great dinner jacket and fight near the end.

    He set a timer to detonate the plastic explosives. Then he nonchalantly lights up a smoke when the timer was due to go off so it didn't look like he was waiting for something to happen. It's fairly obvious that Ramirez was aware of his presence there and watching him. I'm surprised you missed all this, you're usually much more observant.

    So many great PTS' in this series, I'll have to recall them. MR, GE, for sure won't be among them.

    What's wrong with those two?

    He dissed the GoldenEye pre-titler sequence.......oh my goodness.....my rage meter is rising rapidly!!!!

    The GE PTS does conclude in a pretty silly manner (as does MR) but surely the opening stunt makes up for it?

    (Actually the last minute of the PTS in TLD is quite silly when you think about it)
  • SirHenryLeeChaChingSirHenryLeeChaChing
    Posts: 3,494
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    I don't understand how GF's PTS is rated so high for many. It makes absolutely no sense, considering we have no idea what Bond even did when he set off the explosion. The only parts that escape the convoluted are the great dinner jacket and fight near the end.

    He set a timer to detonate the plastic explosives. Then he nonchalantly lights up a smoke when the timer was due to go off so it didn't look like he was waiting for something to happen. It's fairly obvious that Ramirez was aware of his presence there and watching him. I'm surprised you missed all this, you're usually much more observant.

    So many great PTS' in this series, I'll have to recall them. MR, GE, and DAD for sure won't be among them.

    No, that I understand perfectly. What I find convoluted is what he blows up. Something about morphine flavored bananas or something?

    Ramirez likely had raw opium in the drums. That's what Bond means by his quip about him "selling heroin flavored bananas to finance revolutions". The bananas are a reference to that part of the world such as when Killifer refers to Isthmus as a "banana republic" in LTK.



  • BAIN123BAIN123
    Posts: 11,189
    The opening to GF is awesome. Anyone that disses it is an imbecille ;)

    The shot of Connery calmly smoking while his explosion goes off in the background is cracking.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    Posts: 12,837
    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    So many great PTS' in this series, I'll have to recall them. MR, GE, and DAD for sure won't be among them.

    GE I thought was amazing, I can understand why some didn't like it because of the plane chasing and the plot hole with 006 dying, but still, the bungee jump, the chemistry between Brosnan and Bean, the machine gun battle, epic.

    DAD is pretty good too, I thought. The PTS is praised alot as one of the high points in a bad film and I agree. James Bond does a cool stunt (surfing, done for real), cooly takes another guys identity (when he takes the sunglasses, little things like that make me smile), Moon (unlike when he became Graves), seemed pretty threatening, especially when he was attacking the punchbag with a guy in it. Then it finishes with Bond using a gadget to escape and leaping onto a hovercraft, followed by an epic chase.

    MR, really don't get why you wouldn't like this, other than the circus tent bit at the end. The skydiving is really impressive, and done for real. Bond is getting off with hot girl, baddy points gun at him, Bond does cool stunt and fights OTT but threatening henchman. Classic.

    Anyway, my favourites are

    TWINE Starts of cool but low key with the bit in the bankers office, with Bond doing a classic escape, then later there's the EPIC boat chase. My favourite PTS.

    TLD When Dalton turns around, it was the first time I ever saw James Bond. The idea of a training mission gone wrong is really well done, the skydive is great, Bond jumping onto the roof and fighting the villian is a classic stunt/fight sequence, then he destroys the veichle, parachutes out and cooly lands on a boat and gets off with the hot chick.

    GE Already said my reasons for liking it.

    LTK The shootout with Sanchez and his men is cool, then there's the epic plane fishing, and I love the way Bond and Felix casually parachute in for the wedding.

    GF Nuff said.

    TSWLM Again, nuff said.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited July 2012 Posts: 11,189
    LTK The shootout with Sanchez and his men is cool, then there's the epic plane fishing, and I love the way Bond and Felix casually parachute in for the wedding.

    Noticed this recently, the altitude to the plane changes in a few seconds when they patachute :))
  • largo2largo2
    Posts: 469
    Goldeneye has to be my number 1 all time, just because it is the one that got me back into Bond. It introduced us to a new Bond and it was something that no one has done before
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,231
    GF, OHMSS, TSWLM, TLD, GE, TND, TWINE, CR & QOS are all great ones. Don't think I could pick a favourite, although if I were forced, either TLD or TND would get my vote.
  • SaintMarkSaintMark
    Posts: 7,653
    How Shocking that my choice must be the best of them all: Goldfinger. O:-)
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,359
    ALL OF THEM! :D
  • SirHenryLeeChaChingSirHenryLeeChaChing
    Posts: 3,494
    00Beast wrote:
    BAIN123 wrote:
    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    I don't understand how GF's PTS is rated so high for many. It makes absolutely no sense, considering we have no idea what Bond even did when he set off the explosion. The only parts that escape the convoluted are the great dinner jacket and fight near the end.

    He set a timer to detonate the plastic explosives. Then he nonchalantly lights up a smoke when the timer was due to go off so it didn't look like he was waiting for something to happen. It's fairly obvious that Ramirez was aware of his presence there and watching him. I'm surprised you missed all this, you're usually much more observant.

    So many great PTS' in this series, I'll have to recall them. MR, GE, for sure won't be among them.

    What's wrong with those two?

    He dissed the GoldenEye pre-title sequence.......oh my goodness.....my rage meter is rising rapidly!!!!

    Settle down Jesus boy, it's OK. You just think I'm out to get GoldenEye, don't you? You would be wrong. The only two things that I dislike about GE are the soundtrack (except the title theme, the rest I've discussed ad nauseum), and the PTS. Otherwise it's an excellent film and I am always happy to watch it with my boy.

    Regarding the PTS for this movie, it is very well done until Bond and the plane go over the cliff. Not only is Bond catching the plane here as implausible as Bond catching the pilot in Moonraker, it's even more implausible for him to pull it out of that nosedive and out of the gorge. Bond movies were supposed to be based on some level of reality no matter how fantastical the situation was. Things like this, Jaws surviving a freefall through a circus tent, when people scream about the QOS parachute scene into the sinkhole it's minor and far more believable compared to the PTS seen in MR and GE. They both go beyond what they should. It would have been much better for Bond to catch the plane when it went over the edge in GE rather than repeating what didn't work in MR.

    DAD, just too many machine guns and flying bullets during the hovercraft chase and not enough cover for Bond to explain how he escapes without a hit. It makes the villains seem highly incompetent. At least in the archives scene in GE, it was plausible for Bond and Natalya to hide behind bookcases and there was a tight metal walkway where many bullets might not make it through to the target.

  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    00Beast wrote:
    BAIN123 wrote:
    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    I don't understand how GF's PTS is rated so high for many. It makes absolutely no sense, considering we have no idea what Bond even did when he set off the explosion. The only parts that escape the convoluted are the great dinner jacket and fight near the end.

    He set a timer to detonate the plastic explosives. Then he nonchalantly lights up a smoke when the timer was due to go off so it didn't look like he was waiting for something to happen. It's fairly obvious that Ramirez was aware of his presence there and watching him. I'm surprised you missed all this, you're usually much more observant.

    So many great PTS' in this series, I'll have to recall them. MR, GE, for sure won't be among them.

    What's wrong with those two?

    He dissed the GoldenEye pre-title sequence.......oh my goodness.....my rage meter is rising rapidly!!!!

    Settle down Jesus boy, it's OK. You just think I'm out to get GoldenEye, don't you? You would be wrong. The only two things that I dislike about GE are the soundtrack (except the title theme, the rest I've discussed ad nauseum), and the PTS. Otherwise it's an excellent film and I am always happy to watch it with my boy.

    Regarding the PTS for this movie, it is very well done until Bond and the plane go over the cliff. Not only is Bond catching the plane here as implausible as Bond catching the pilot in Moonraker, it's even more implausible for him to pull it out of that nosedive and out of the gorge. Bond movies were supposed to be based on some level of reality no matter how fantastical the situation was. Things like this, Jaws surviving a freefall through a circus tent, when people scream about the QOS parachute scene into the sinkhole it's minor and far more believable compared to the PTS seen in MR and GE. They both go beyond what they should. It would have been much better for Bond to catch the plane when it went over the edge in GE rather than repeating what didn't work in MR.

    DAD, just too many machine guns and flying bullets during the hovercraft chase and not enough cover for Bond to explain how he escapes without a hit. It makes the villains seem highly incompetent. At least in the archives scene in GE, it was plausible for Bond and Natalya to hide behind bookcases and there was a tight metal walkway where many bullets might not make it through to the target.

    Is that really called for? No need to be derogatory, especially when you are attacking @00Beast's beliefs. I am by no means religious, but respect his faith.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    Posts: 11,189
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    00Beast wrote:
    BAIN123 wrote:
    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    I don't understand how GF's PTS is rated so high for many. It makes absolutely no sense, considering we have no idea what Bond even did when he set off the explosion. The only parts that escape the convoluted are the great dinner jacket and fight near the end.

    He set a timer to detonate the plastic explosives. Then he nonchalantly lights up a smoke when the timer was due to go off so it didn't look like he was waiting for something to happen. It's fairly obvious that Ramirez was aware of his presence there and watching him. I'm surprised you missed all this, you're usually much more observant.

    So many great PTS' in this series, I'll have to recall them. MR, GE, for sure won't be among them.

    What's wrong with those two?

    He dissed the GoldenEye pre-title sequence.......oh my goodness.....my rage meter is rising rapidly!!!!

    Settle down Jesus boy, it's OK. You just think I'm out to get GoldenEye, don't you? You would be wrong. The only two things that I dislike about GE are the soundtrack (except the title theme, the rest I've discussed ad nauseum), and the PTS. Otherwise it's an excellent film and I am always happy to watch it with my boy.

    Regarding the PTS for this movie, it is very well done until Bond and the plane go over the cliff. Not only is Bond catching the plane here as implausible as Bond catching the pilot in Moonraker, it's even more implausible for him to pull it out of that nosedive and out of the gorge. Bond movies were supposed to be based on some level of reality no matter how fantastical the situation was. Things like this, Jaws surviving a freefall through a circus tent, when people scream about the QOS parachute scene into the sinkhole it's minor and far more believable compared to the PTS seen in MR and GE. They both go beyond what they should. It would have been much better for Bond to catch the plane when it went over the edge in GE rather than repeating what didn't work in MR.

    DAD, just too many machine guns and flying bullets during the hovercraft chase and not enough cover for Bond to explain how he escapes without a hit. It makes the villains seem highly incompetent. At least in the archives scene in GE, it was plausible for Bond and Natalya to hide behind bookcases and there was a tight metal walkway where many bullets might not make it through to the target.

    Is that really called for? No need to be derogatory, especially when you are attacking @00Beast's beliefs. I am by no means religious, but respect his faith.

    It's an expression
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
    Posts: 12,526
    GE
    CR
    TLD
    3 great PTS to get you in the mood! :-bd
  • Lancaster007Lancaster007 Shrublands Health Clinic, England
    Posts: 1,874
    Got to be The Living Daylights - excellent sequence, brilliant introduction to the new Bond, and he ends up with a tasty woman on a yacht. Excellent.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    BAIN123 wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    00Beast wrote:
    BAIN123 wrote:
    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    I don't understand how GF's PTS is rated so high for many. It makes absolutely no sense, considering we have no idea what Bond even did when he set off the explosion. The only parts that escape the convoluted are the great dinner jacket and fight near the end.

    He set a timer to detonate the plastic explosives. Then he nonchalantly lights up a smoke when the timer was due to go off so it didn't look like he was waiting for something to happen. It's fairly obvious that Ramirez was aware of his presence there and watching him. I'm surprised you missed all this, you're usually much more observant.

    So many great PTS' in this series, I'll have to recall them. MR, GE, for sure won't be among them.

    What's wrong with those two?

    He dissed the GoldenEye pre-title sequence.......oh my goodness.....my rage meter is rising rapidly!!!!

    Settle down Jesus boy, it's OK. You just think I'm out to get GoldenEye, don't you? You would be wrong. The only two things that I dislike about GE are the soundtrack (except the title theme, the rest I've discussed ad nauseum), and the PTS. Otherwise it's an excellent film and I am always happy to watch it with my boy.

    Regarding the PTS for this movie, it is very well done until Bond and the plane go over the cliff. Not only is Bond catching the plane here as implausible as Bond catching the pilot in Moonraker, it's even more implausible for him to pull it out of that nosedive and out of the gorge. Bond movies were supposed to be based on some level of reality no matter how fantastical the situation was. Things like this, Jaws surviving a freefall through a circus tent, when people scream about the QOS parachute scene into the sinkhole it's minor and far more believable compared to the PTS seen in MR and GE. They both go beyond what they should. It would have been much better for Bond to catch the plane when it went over the edge in GE rather than repeating what didn't work in MR.

    DAD, just too many machine guns and flying bullets during the hovercraft chase and not enough cover for Bond to explain how he escapes without a hit. It makes the villains seem highly incompetent. At least in the archives scene in GE, it was plausible for Bond and Natalya to hide behind bookcases and there was a tight metal walkway where many bullets might not make it through to the target.

    Is that really called for? No need to be derogatory, especially when you are attacking @00Beast's beliefs. I am by no means religious, but respect his faith.

    It's an expression

    I don't care what it is. That doesn't make it excusable.
  • Alan007Alan007
    Posts: 406
    In no particular order

    FRWL
    GF
    OHMSS
    TSWLM
    OP
    TLD
    LTK
    GE
    TND
    TWINE
    DAD

    Could also add in CR and QOS but I thought that was enough for a best of :D
  • SirHenryLeeChaChingSirHenryLeeChaChing
    Posts: 3,494
    BAIN123 wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    00Beast wrote:
    BAIN123 wrote:
    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    I don't understand how GF's PTS is rated so high for many. It makes absolutely no sense, considering we have no idea what Bond even did when he set off the explosion. The only parts that escape the convoluted are the great dinner jacket and fight near the end.

    He set a timer to detonate the plastic explosives. Then he nonchalantly lights up a smoke when the timer was due to go off so it didn't look like he was waiting for something to happen. It's fairly obvious that Ramirez was aware of his presence there and watching him. I'm surprised you missed all this, you're usually much more observant.

    So many great PTS' in this series, I'll have to recall them. MR, GE, for sure won't be among them.

    What's wrong with those two?

    He dissed the GoldenEye pre-title sequence.......oh my goodness.....my rage meter is rising rapidly!!!!

    Settle down Jesus boy, it's OK. You just think I'm out to get GoldenEye, don't you? You would be wrong. The only two things that I dislike about GE are the soundtrack (except the title theme, the rest I've discussed ad nauseum), and the PTS. Otherwise it's an excellent film and I am always happy to watch it with my boy.

    Regarding the PTS for this movie, it is very well done until Bond and the plane go over the cliff. Not only is Bond catching the plane here as implausible as Bond catching the pilot in Moonraker, it's even more implausible for him to pull it out of that nosedive and out of the gorge. Bond movies were supposed to be based on some level of reality no matter how fantastical the situation was. Things like this, Jaws surviving a freefall through a circus tent, when people scream about the QOS parachute scene into the sinkhole it's minor and far more believable compared to the PTS seen in MR and GE. They both go beyond what they should. It would have been much better for Bond to catch the plane when it went over the edge in GE rather than repeating what didn't work in MR.

    DAD, just too many machine guns and flying bullets during the hovercraft chase and not enough cover for Bond to explain how he escapes without a hit. It makes the villains seem highly incompetent. At least in the archives scene in GE, it was plausible for Bond and Natalya to hide behind bookcases and there was a tight metal walkway where many bullets might not make it through to the target.

    Is that really called for? No need to be derogatory, especially when you are attacking @00Beast's beliefs. I am by no means religious, but respect his faith.

    It's an expression

    Thank you Bain. You get it.

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