In time, will SP be more or less appreciated?

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  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    chrisisall wrote: »

    You're the Thunderball fanboy here. I mean how can any sane person believe SP has to be ranked next to TB. That's like saying Toronto is next to Mexico City.

    Thunderball is just wrong on all levels. First that name, then a Bond girl named Domino? Will the next one be called Chinese Checkers?

    Also those underwater sequences....soooooo boring and unoriginal. Totally copying from FYEO!
    COPYING??? Did you land on your head when you got born? Look I love SP too, but it's not my damned religion boy! Why don't you sit yourself down and watch CR'67 and have some REAL quality Bond time? And speaking of TIME, how about wasting no more of MINE?
    I should flag your a*s.... monkeyboy
    :(|)

    Here is my new Bond ranking, just for you!

    1. SPECTRE
    2. DNFRWLGFYOLTOHMSSLALDTMWTGGTSWLMMRFYEOOPAVTAKTLDLTKGETWINEDADCRQOS
    3. SF























    23. TND








    in a galaxy far, far, away........










    24. THUNDERsucksBALL

    EAT THIS YOU FANBOY
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    @BondJasonBond007, how about you take you lame adolescent opinions, your insane insults & your antagonism and shove them up your alimentary, Doctor Leiter.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I must be as screw loose as they come.

    TB - 2
    SP - 17

    This won't be changing any time soon, I can assure you.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    @BondJasonBond007, how about you take you lame adolescent opinions, your insane insults & your antagonism and shove them up your alimentary, Doctor Leiter.

    You like CR'67, did I read that right. Oh boy, did I even misjudge you? I mean CR'67 is the epitome of a Bond movie, I will never understand how such garbage as produced today can even compare to it.
  • First time posting!

    In the medium term Spectre's fate is more or less sealed: the wider public see it as the disappointing follow-up to Skyfall.

    My sister was underwhelmed by Spectre, literally telling me 'it just didn't feel like a Bond movie.' Her knowledge of what a Bond movie is like? Skyfall. That's the only other one she had seen. As other people have pointed out, Skyfall worked as the perfect zeitgeist-y movie (where MR and DAD were maybe less than perfect zeitgeist-y movies). It meant a lot of people saw it that might not otherwise be interested in a Bond film, and when they came to Spectre, which was so much more throw-back in its content and tone, they were disappointed that it didn't give them the same feels.

    In the longue durée, whether Spectre is appreciated or not is going to depend on what you want from a particular Bond film in a particular moment. When it's just one of many on a shelf, its going to be all about your mood and your proclivities as you're thinking about what you want to watch.

    For me, I've already filed it alongside DAF as my ideal Bond movie: campy, chilled out, knowing, with some cool shit to look at and a handful of vicarious thrills. But I'm a Sunday afternoon after a few beers Bond-watcher.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    First time posting!

    In the medium term Spectre's fate is more or less sealed: the wider public see it as the disappointing follow-up to Skyfall.

    My sister was underwhelmed by Spectre, literally telling me 'it just didn't feel like a Bond movie.' Her knowledge of what a Bond movie is like? Skyfall. That's the only other one she had seen. As other people have pointed out, Skyfall worked as the perfect zeitgeist-y movie (where MR and DAD were maybe less than perfect zeitgeist-y movies). It meant a lot of people saw it that might not otherwise be interested in a Bond film, and when they came to Spectre, which was so much more throw-back in its content and tone, they were disappointed that it didn't give them the same feels.

    In the longue durée, whether Spectre is appreciated or not is going to depend on what you want from a particular Bond film in a particular moment. When it's just one of many on a shelf, its going to be all about your mood and your proclivities as you're thinking about what you want to watch.

    For me, I've already filed it alongside DAF as my ideal Bond movie: campy, chilled out, knowing, with some cool shit to look at and a handful of vicarious thrills. But I'm a Sunday afternoon after a few beers Bond-watcher.

    Happy landings, old boy! May I compliment you on your taste in Bond! I'm absolutely loopy about DAF, too. Very underrated IMO.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    @BondJasonBond007, how about you take you lame adolescent opinions, your insane insults & your antagonism and shove them up your alimentary, Doctor Leiter.

    You like CR'67, did I read that right. Oh boy, did I even misjudge you? I mean CR'67 is the epitome of a Bond movie, I will never understand how such garbage as produced today can even compare to it.
    Why am I even talking to you? I mean, like, when I should be introducing you to GRAVITY or something? CR'67 & you have something in common; you're both stupid.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    @chrisisall
    You are talking to me because I'm intelligent, eloquent and well-informed about Bond.
    SP and TB ranking close together....ha ha....best joke ever.
    When everybody knows, TB is Moore's worst Bond by far.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    @chrisisall
    You are talking to me because I'm intelligent, eloquent and well-informed about Bond.
    SP and TB ranking close together....ha ha....best joke ever.
    When everybody knows, TB is Moore's worst Bond by far.
    The reason you live many many miles from me is the sole reason you will live to die another day, friend.
    :-@
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    @chrisisall
    You are talking to me because I'm intelligent, eloquent and well-informed about Bond.
    SP and TB ranking close together....ha ha....best joke ever.
    When everybody knows, TB is Moore's worst Bond by far.
    The reason you live many many miles from me is the sole reason you will live to die another day, friend.

    Well I have to put you to sleep now...I mean I have to sleep now. You know, sleeping as in giving your brain (as little as there might be) a well-deserved rest.
    Maybe tomorrow you wake up and realise what an imbecile you are to rank TB next to SP.
    Really, Brosnan is so much better than Moore.
    SP rocks, Brosnan has never been better. Ha!
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    I still say Spectre is better, Skyfall is great but the plot is too thin for me.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    @chrisisall
    You are talking to me because I'm intelligent, eloquent and well-informed about Bond.
    SP and TB ranking close together....ha ha....best joke ever.
    When everybody knows, TB is Moore's worst Bond by far.
    The reason you live many many miles from me is the sole reason you will live to die another day, friend.

    Well I have to put you to sleep now...I mean I have to sleep now. You know, sleeping as in giving your brain (as little as there might be) a well-deserved rest.
    Maybe tomorrow you wake up and realise what an imbecile you are to rank TB next to SP.
    Really, Brosnan is so much better than Moore.
    SP rocks, Brosnan has never been better. Ha!
    You guys make cheese like you argue- lots of holes.
  • SuperintendentSuperintendent A separate pool. For sharks, no less.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    I must be as screw loose as they come.

    TB - 2
    SP - 17

    This won't be changing any time soon, I can assure you.


    I don't have the exact ranking, but I'm around there somewhere, too.

    The underwater scenes in TB tend to become boring as the number of viewings increases, but the rest of the film is perfect, IMO. Connery is effortlessly great.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited March 2016 Posts: 9,117
    chrisisall wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    @chrisisall
    You are talking to me because I'm intelligent, eloquent and well-informed about Bond.
    SP and TB ranking close together....ha ha....best joke ever.
    When everybody knows, TB is Moore's worst Bond by far.
    The reason you live many many miles from me is the sole reason you will live to die another day, friend.

    Well I have to put you to sleep now...I mean I have to sleep now. You know, sleeping as in giving your brain (as little as there might be) a well-deserved rest.
    Maybe tomorrow you wake up and realise what an imbecile you are to rank TB next to SP.
    Really, Brosnan is so much better than Moore.
    SP rocks, Brosnan has never been better. Ha!
    You guys make cheese like you argue- lots of holes.

    Any sign of a mod intervening in this childish tit for tat?

    Although for the record TB is a dull plod of a film. For the definitive SPECTRE meeting scene, anything with Fiona and Sean in the Shrublands scenes not to mention its technical accomplishments TB manages to scrape together enough points to get out of the relegation zone but SP is a long way clear in solid midtable territory although never troubling the Champions League spots.

    A Crystal Palace and a Stoke, respectively if you will.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    @chrisisall
    You are talking to me because I'm intelligent, eloquent and well-informed about Bond.
    SP and TB ranking close together....ha ha....best joke ever.
    When everybody knows, TB is Moore's worst Bond by far.
    The reason you live many many miles from me is the sole reason you will live to die another day, friend.

    Well I have to put you to sleep now...I mean I have to sleep now. You know, sleeping as in giving your brain (as little as there might be) a well-deserved rest.
    Maybe tomorrow you wake up and realise what an imbecile you are to rank TB next to SP.
    Really, Brosnan is so much better than Moore.
    SP rocks, Brosnan has never been better. Ha!
    You guys make cheese like you argue- lots of holes.

    Any sign of a mod intervening in this childish tit for tat?

    Although for the record TB is a dull plod of a film. For the definitive SPECTRE meeting scene, anything with Fiona and Sean in the Shrublands scenes not to mention its technical accomplishments TB manages to scrape together enough points to get out of the relegation zone but SP is a long way clear in solid midtable territory although never troubling the Champions League spots.

    A Crystal Palace and a Stoke, respectively if you will.

    Who is leicester?
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    @TheWizardOfIce
    Any sign of a mod intervening in this childish tit for tat?

    Now if every time some posters engage in childish tit for tat (let's say for instance: SP good/bad or SF better than SP or not), the mods would have to intervene, they would have a full time job at their hands with lots of extra hours.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    @TheWizardOfIce
    Any sign of a mod intervening in this childish tit for tat?

    Now if every time some posters engage in childish tit for tat (let's say for instance: SP good/bad or SF better than SP or not), the mods would have to intervene, they would have a full time job at their hands with lots of extra hours.
    Hey man, sorry about that crack about your cheese... it's really good.

  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    @TheWizardOfIce
    Any sign of a mod intervening in this childish tit for tat?

    Now if every time some posters engage in childish tit for tat (let's say for instance: SP good/bad or SF better than SP or not), the mods would have to intervene, they would have a full time job at their hands with lots of extra hours.
    Hey man, sorry about that crack about your cheese... it's really good.

    Yes, I'm sorry too about calling you a twit.

    TB is such a fine movie, really. SP as well and they go hand in hand.
    In fact they should be married.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    @BondJasonBond006, c'mere ya big lug!
    *virtual hug*
    We're Bond fans, man!
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited March 2016 Posts: 9,117
    chrisisall wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    @chrisisall
    You are talking to me because I'm intelligent, eloquent and well-informed about Bond.
    SP and TB ranking close together....ha ha....best joke ever.
    When everybody knows, TB is Moore's worst Bond by far.
    The reason you live many many miles from me is the sole reason you will live to die another day, friend.

    Well I have to put you to sleep now...I mean I have to sleep now. You know, sleeping as in giving your brain (as little as there might be) a well-deserved rest.
    Maybe tomorrow you wake up and realise what an imbecile you are to rank TB next to SP.
    Really, Brosnan is so much better than Moore.
    SP rocks, Brosnan has never been better. Ha!
    You guys make cheese like you argue- lots of holes.

    Any sign of a mod intervening in this childish tit for tat?

    Although for the record TB is a dull plod of a film. For the definitive SPECTRE meeting scene, anything with Fiona and Sean in the Shrublands scenes not to mention its technical accomplishments TB manages to scrape together enough points to get out of the relegation zone but SP is a long way clear in solid midtable territory although never troubling the Champions League spots.

    A Crystal Palace and a Stoke, respectively if you will.

    Who is leicester?

    Very difficult to say. I'd have OHMSS and FRWL as Liverpool and Utd - true classics and with a solid history behind them.

    DN - Arsenal: Another classic but not quite up to the standard of the big two.

    TB = Spurs: Thinks of itself as one of the elite but always just falls a bit short.

    CR = Chelsea: Modern day success and these days has to be regarded as a big hitter up there with the classics.

    SF = Man City: Far from universally popular but the sheer money involved makes you sit up and take notice.

    But Leicester? A film that was thought to be shit but is now almost universally liked? QOS maybe?



  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    A most worthy set of analogies there Wiz. I particularly like your Spurs/Thunderball comparison.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    @BondJasonBond006, c'mere ya big lug!
    *virtual hug*
    We're Bond fans, man!

    Yes, totally. I can't believe the fight we had over stupid things like that.

    I mean we all agree that Brosnan just rocks in SP and TB has the best underwater scenes since GF.

    XOXO ^:)^ :\"> :D
  • GBFGBF
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    Nice comparison. Leicester is a phenomenon. It could also mean that you don't need so extremely much money to make a good Bond film.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Silly silly British Swedish man. :)>-
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    GBF wrote: »
    Nice comparison. Leicester is a phenomenon. It could also mean that you don't need so extremely much money to make a good Bond film.

    Good point. Would that actually make SP the current Man U team? Spent a shitload to achieve distinctly average results.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    @BondJasonBond006, c'mere ya big lug!
    *virtual hug*
    We're Bond fans, man!

    Yay!! No more fighting. You both rock. And I like cheese.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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  • GBFGBF
    edited March 2016 Posts: 3,197
    GBF wrote: »
    Nice comparison. Leicester is a phenomenon. It could also mean that you don't need so extremely much money to make a good Bond film.

    Good point. Would that actually make SP the current Man U team? Spent a shitload to achieve distinctly average results.

    Since I am not a Spectre lover, I'd say probably yes. One could also call it the Man City, some may even call it the current Chelsea.
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    SP will be more appreciated with time, because the hate-inducing elements tend to be forgiven and overlooked the more one gets used to the film. What stays is a psychedelic Sergio Leone vision of what Bond dreams of at night, during rehab.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    boldfinger wrote: »
    SP will be more appreciated with time, because the hate-inducing elements tend to be forgiven and overlooked the more one gets used to the film. What stays is a psychedelic Sergio Leone vision of what Bond dreams of at night, during rehab.


    This is the perfect review of SP.
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