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The True Crime Discussion Thread

DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
edited July 2020 in General Discussion Posts: 18,281
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I see we've never had one of these here on MI6 Community so I thought that I would start a thread for the discussion of true crime in the UK, the US and around the world. It can encompass any crime from any era, the details, how the criminal was caught, if the criminal was caught etc.

We can discuss anything from Jack the Ripper to Oscar Pistorious and from Fred West to Dr Harold Shipman.

Here is the place for True Crime discussions and analysis.

I'm particularly interested in how True Crime has influenced the James Bond novels and films over the years if this is of interest to anyone else?

So what will we discuss to get the ball rolling?

How about the recent Oscar Pistorious Trial and the changing of the lesser culpable homicide conviction to that of murder for killing his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp whom he shot through a locked bathroom door in his house on 14 February 2013?

What are our thoughts on that case? I have to say they have finally delivered the correct decision as the culpable homicide sentence was far too lenient for what was a reckless disregard for life when Pistorious fired through that bathroom door at his girlfriend on that fateful night.

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  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    Who did he say he thought was behind the door? Also, looks like I'll follow this thread closely. I love reading about murderers and such. What a wonderful idea.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Yes, I'm a fan of True life crime stories. Used to buy the magazines
    and books.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Perverts, all of you.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited December 2015 Posts: 18,281
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Perverts, all of you.

    I've seen your computer at Curry's. Some grim stuff on there. I thought you'd have had the sense to destroy the hard-drive. :D
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    Who did Oscar Pestorious say he thought was behind the door?
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    It lies at the bottom of the river. I have a new one.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited December 2015 Posts: 18,281
    PropertyOfALady wrote: »
    Who did Oscar Pestorious say he thought was behind the door?

    A burglar/intruder apparently. If you believe that etc...
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    It lies at the bottom of the river. I have a new one.

    Glad to hear that I have trained you well.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    It lies at the bottom of the river. I have a new one.

    The FBI, CIA, Interpol, NSA, IRA, ISIS, MI6, MI5, Scotland Yard, NYPD, Carabinieri, and Gendarmerie Nationale are all on the hunt for you now, @Thunderfinger.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    PropertyOfALady wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    It lies at the bottom of the river. I have a new one.

    The FBI, CIA, Interpol, NSA, IRA, ISIS, MI6, MI5, Scotland Yard, NYPD, Carabinieri, and Gendarmerie Nationale are all on the hunt for you now, @Thunderfinger.

    Especially their combined scuba diving team. @Thunderfinger - our Last Hope against PRISM.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Pffft...they need some more friends.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I shot J.R.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    I shot first.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Pffft...they need some more friends.

    Are you referring to the nefarious PRISM?
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    The True Crime here is derailing your own thread. Wisen up, killerboy!
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    The True Crime here is derailing your own thread. Wisen up, killerboy!

    Yes, agreed, let's get back on track please everyone. :)
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Not me, of course.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Not me, of course.

    Well I'm going to blame you anyway as you are a well known troublemaker. ;)
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    Anybody excited about the new movie starring Tom Hardy as the Kray twins? Care to discuss them?
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    I watched the first Krays film, with those terrible pop stars, this is probably better.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    PropertyOfALady wrote: »
    Anybody excited about the new movie starring Tom Hardy as the Kray twins? Care to discuss them?

    Yes, and interestingly this new Krays film is based on the book by none other than Fleming and Bond biographer John Pearson. :)
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    Has anybody been on Netflix and watched "Making a Murderer"? What are your thoughts on Steven A. Avery?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    PropertyOfALady wrote: »
    Has anybody been on Netflix and watched "Making a Murderer"? What are your thoughts on Steven A. Avery?

    I watched the entire thing in a day or two after it premiered; mentioned it elsewhere in hopes of sparking up a discussion, but no luck.

    Personally, I think he's innocent. Yourself?
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    I think that he's most definitely innocent. I think that whole thing is messed up honestly. Defense lawyers Dean Strang and Jerry Buting had an airtight case, I thought. Especially with the lack of blood anywhere in Avery's trailer. And why would Teresa Halbach's blood be found in the back of her RAV4 if she had just been dragged out from the garage? You don't kill someone and then load her into the back of her car just to drive her body five feet, dump it out, and burn it. Although, I'm sure the series left out some information, it'd be hard for me to read the stuff that was left out and do a switcheroo and proclaim that he's guilty. I don't believe that there is solid concrete proof that Avery is definitely guilty. As for the Manitowoc County Sheriff's Department, I fully believe that Lieutenant James Lenk planted the key in Steven's bedroom. It seemed to me that whenever they were asked a tough question it was always, very conveniently, "I don't recall" or "I don't know."

    As for Brendan Dassey, that whole thing was stupid as well. I do not believe that they should have convicted him. Obviously, the kid did have some cognitive issues, which is what makes it all the more heartbreaking. He should not have stood trial. If you listen to the phone calls, he has no clue what he's saying or doing. He changes his story like eight or ten times.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    That's exactly what I said about the blood in the back of the RAV4: would only be there if she was transported from a location much further away, which she wasn't.

    You're right, Dassey had no idea what he was doing. So sad that he now has to spend the rest of his life in jail because of that reason.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    It's kind of scary to think that things like this actually do happen.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    @Dragonpol This new Netflix documentary series may interest you:

  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited July 2020 Posts: 18,281
    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    @Dragonpol This new Netflix documentary series may interest you:


    Thank you very much for bringing it to my attention, @DaltonCraig007, and for reviving this rather forgotten thread of mine!

    You're right in surmising that this documentary series would be of interest to me. Some years ago I conducted a little research into the New York Mafia for a Bond article I've yet to complete.

    Unfortunately I don't subscribe to Netflix but if this series ever becomes available to buy on DVD or whatever I'd be very interested in purchasing it. :)
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