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What? CR and MR were depressing as hell, especially the former which the latter can't even compete with. And FRWL is an up in the air ending which is also not happy at all.
I believe it's in The Man with the Golden Gun.
had a long summer and re-read all Fleming, Colonel Sun, The Spy Who Loved Me (Movie Tie in), Moonraker (Movie Tie in), all Benson (except the movie tie-ins) and the first 6 Gardner. Started to work on August 1 again and have the next Gardners at the nightstand. Looking forward to eventually also reading the Young James Bond and Miss Moneypenny Books til the end of the year. Those would be complete new too me. I love the literary Bond so much better than the movies. Still Connery will always be the Bond for me even while reading the Books, but Craig's new character like Lazenby's in OHMSS are truer to the literary one.
PS:If someone could help me out finding copies of the 2 Moneypenny Diaries short stories, I would be very thankful, cause at the time they got out I had no chance to order them, cause I live in Austria and it was only available for UK/US shipping.
Yep, Gardner was really trying to force a round peg into a square hole with his novelization of LTK. He brushes past Bond's age by saying that despite a "few grey hairs" he felt as alive as he ever did. And IIRC he has Bond pick up a woman at Felix's wedding for a one night stand - I can't recall how he reconciles this with Bond (at first) refusing Della's garter, then leaving alone presumably with thoughts of Tracy.
But most ridiculous of all was his handling of the SECOND shark attack against Felix. I seem to recall that:
Thanks! I've been waiting for it as I reread but I'm only up to OHMSS.
Yes, that was definitely a WTF moment! Talk about suspension of disbelief. I have also noted that Gardner gives his Bond some very un-Bond like dialogue. Shan't be seeking out anymore Gardner's after this, back to Fleming and what was my favourite when I first started reading the novels as a teen - Dr No.
"Downer ending" aside, I still think it's the best Bond novel.
I agree.
Back to Fleming and one of my all time favourites Dr No, I loved this one so much that I attempted to write (aged 14 or 15) my own spy novel which was basically a rip off of this book…wonder what happened to that 'manuscript'?
Decided to give Gardner another shot. Two chapters into "Icebreaker."
What a coincidence. Just finished DMC too. I don't consider it as a Bond novel even. It's a Bond parody, a pastiche.
Anyway, I've finished half of Death Is Forever. Another of intricately plotted ones along with The Man From Barbarossa. Gardner decided to take on Len Deighton or Robert Ludlum in here rather than Ian Fleming. Liked it, so far.
Since you mentioned Len Deighton, I was wondering if anyone has read the Harry Palmer novels (The Ipcress File, Funeral in Belin, Billion Dollar Brain). I remember seeing the Michael Caine films when with my parents when I was a child but I was too young to appreciate the films at tht time. I saw "The Ipcress File" for the second time on VHS about 20 years ago. At any rate, let me know if Deighton is worth a read.
I did read all of the Unnamed Spy novels, but unfortunately I only own four Deightons (IPCRESS and the first Bernard Samson trilogy). I do reccomend it @DB5. The writing style is somewhat an amalgamation of Le Carre and Fleming.
Finished DIF anyway, so I'll probably give the worsts of the lists another read to see if they really deserve my hatred. Starting with Dr. No. Fleming's worst, IMO.
That's interesting, I actually enjoyed Dr. No. I didn't care much for Moonraker. I read Gardner's Nobody Lives Forever and hated it. Thanks for your advice on Deighton, I think I'll see if I can get a copy of The Ipcress File from the library.
My favorite installment. Enjoy :)
How many have you read?
Well.. three. >:P So far my favorite.
Is that your first stab at Gardner? If so dont give up on John as Icebreaker is one of his weakest efforts.
Get hold of Nobody Lives Forever, Licence Renewed or Win Lose or Die and you will have some great fun. Not Fleming admittedly but light years ahead of the likes of Benson and the DAD of the literary Bond, Devil May Care.
I read Gardner's first two, Licence Renewed and For Special Services when originally published in paperback and swore I'd never read anymore. Recently I noticed that the Gardner's were re-released (nice covers) and bought the novelisation of Licence To Kill. My opinion of his novels haven't changed. I don't know if I'd call them awful but I just don't like them, LTK had some very odd dialogue for Bond and some information wasn't so much spoon fed as shoved down ones throat. And we were expected to believe that Felix suffered a second shark attack. Actually, yes bloody awful.
More praise for Gardner! Anybody with me... anybody?
Mmm, nah.
The trouble I find with Gardner's books - those that I've read is that he seems to be trying to please the fans of the books and the fans of the films, and this just doesn't work for me. To start he would be near pensionable age and then he has a dalliance with Felix's daughter, yuk, and we Q'ute (wtf). I have also read DMC, which I actually quite liked, even though it is more of a pastiche than a proper Bond novel, and Carté Blanche, which I though was okay but definitely not Bond. For me ONLY Fleming's novels are Bond.