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Absolutely agree @Creasy47!
I'm not saying he didn't cross the line, I'm saying he crossed the line about 300 miles ago, and it's just shocking that so many have been able to put his comments in the back of their minds for this long without finally saying to themselves, "Wait, this guy might not be all right."
Of course I think it's important to stand up to people that degrade and bully genuinely, which is why I've said from day one that something needed to be done about him so that his effect wasn't spread, but that was a year ago and the rest of the American people who stand behind him have only served to lend credence to his legend and "brand." I'm sorry I can't control the masses. If I could, I would, and make all of us walk hand in hand off a precipice into extinction as punishment for allowing Trump to get this far, in addition to all the other cruelties we perform between ourselves each day.
No other things exist in nature that are just as beautiful as they are cruel like human beings, and this past year and many years in addition only serve to prove that. How about we balance things a bit more in favor of the "beautiful?"
He crossed over the line long before he was running for President, he's said so much reprehensible statements that support of him was a joke when some of you attempted and you know who you are
It's the fact that such a man is in this position and America you have to ask yourself this question?
If Nigel Farage had got to this point in my country and he's Diet Trump at best I'd be so ashamed that my fellow countrymen had rallied round this bigoted, racist chancer.
The rise of UKIP in the UK is very worrying but it pales compared to the awful, hateful types that have crawled from under their rocks in the U.S and now think they have valid reason to be so inhuman to other individuals, the uninformed talk of immigrants is just beyond a joke, Jack White said it best in Icky Thump.
White Americans, what?
Nothing better to do?
Why don't you kick yourself out?
You're an immigrant too?
Who's usin' who?
What should we do?
Well you can't be a pimp
And a prostitute too
Refreshing to know there was a line for Trump to cross at least... At some point it felt like Americans could live with absolutely anything...
Not gonna happen though with all those idiots around.
As you know, Harry Enten works for FiveThirtyEight.com. And the editor in chief of that site a while ago wrote this:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/will-the-trump-tape-have-a-bigger-effect-on-the-race-than-past-controversies/
We should start tally the forummembers who still support Trump :|
Probably still a larger number than it should be. They're also more likely to remain quiet.
It was wrong, of course it was, but why should it automatic disqualify him from Presidency? If we had a full tape of all Obama's private comments, or anyone's for that matter, I'm sure could find equally reprehensible comments.
He has apologized. I think these comments, awful though they are, are being blown out of proportion.
At what point during this campaign do you think he has not shown the same disdain to women as he did do in 2003.
If you cannot see that he has not changed that much, which I do not think he has done since people do not change that much after their fifties, then please do not make yourselves look stupid by trying to defend him. Even his own wife has nothing good to say about these remarks and does not try to defend them.
I am not defending the comments. But there is great hypocrisy going on here
He has not been very flattering to women period, if you missed that much you are not a very critical person.
Well I haven't been following it avidly but I haven't heard anything offensive during the campaign. Only bringing up his past. Now Trump is going to bring up the Clinton's past, which is only fair when his past is being dragged up again and again.
I just want the people so outraged that they think he should step aside to declare that they have never said anything awful in private.
Sometimes you should just accept that certain behaviour is not acceptable and should not be defended, which you clearly are doing. So perhaps that says enough about you and what you stand for.
One thing is for sure, whatever happens and whoever wins, American democracy has been damaged, as there will be a large portion of the population that will be disgusted by the result and will see it as illegitimate. Whoever wins.
The result of fighting an election in a no holds barred manner like it's a war will have far reaching consequences and we are about to witness the implications in the next four years.
what part of 'The comments are highly offensive ' (my words) don't you understand. I am not, repeat not, defending the comments.
@bondjames agreed.
US citizens are voting for the leader of the western world, whose polices affect most people on the planet.
Over the last 20 years we have seen the rule of the Neocons, who have increasingly centralized power and money towards a global elite. Enriching themselves, through political corruption, they caused a wake of wars, mass migration, and debt crisis.
Hilary Clinton is a continuation candidate. Trump appears to be something else.
I cannot understand why people are not debating the important issues, but care worrying about first-world problems of how rude Trump is.
This to me is the tyranny of the internet. We are all human and make mistakes. And the the ruling elite use this to trash anyone who stands up to them.
I still haven't seen on this forum any rational discussion of why trump will be a disaster
Can you please elaborate? A while back I was criticizing the American electoral system and the media for turning the election away from politics and onto a juvenile track of insults and personal attacks. When it suited your candidate you defended it for being a "just system designed to favour the strongest candidate". Now that it has worked against your favourite its "filth" and a sign of a crumbling democracy. Who are you blaming for this except Trump himself? Because criticizing him is obviously hard for you, you had a perfect opportunity now but are instead talking nonsense.
The GOP is in crisis, oh sure, "descending into the gutter". First for jeopardicing the country with Bush, then for boicotting Obama in eight years so they could put the blame on him for the mess and (relative) lack of progress during his period. Then for choosing this candidate, then for having its most respected members endorse him while hypocritically defending Republican core values. A political washing up is indeed needed in the GOP. Is American democracy any worse of than it was already because of this? No.
I think the public expected more discussion of the issues and have been let down.
I stand by my prior post. If you want to call it nonsense, that's your prerogative. Watch and learn.
You've got your favourite in this race and I have mine. The difference between you and I is I don't hold your view against you. It's your right. I may disagree, but I don't judge you for it.
Thank you. Yes indeed.
Hardly surprising at this point.
Also, here:
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