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Any Bernie Sanders supporter who turns around and votes for Trump is basically p*ssing on everything Sanders stands for.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2016/06/06/7ed101b2-2c15-11e6-9b37-42985f6a265c_story.html?tid=hybrid_collaborative_1_na
On top of that, the investigation into the fraud surrounding Trump University is becoming heavier and more frequent:
http://www.npr.org/2016/06/06/480948631/trump-university-customer-gold-elite-program-nothing-but-fools-gold
This seems to be 'Sarah Palin' all over again, with some traces of Barry Goldwater. The only difference this time is this: Trump is already a presidential candidate...for the GOP. Now Trump gets scrutinized more and more, even the problems surrounding Hillary Clinton's email behavior seem to be mild as compared with his.
I'm willing to bet that in the end Hillary Clinton could actually get a higher electoral college vote count than her Democratic predecessor Barack Obama (365). What do you all think?
In all fairness to those individuals, they can just shut up at this point. Most of them literally just endorsed the man within the span of the last week, knowing full well that he was a racist and a bigot, so what did they expect, for him to change all of a sudden because they graced him with their endorsement.
If the GOP had any guts about them whatsoever, they'd take the nomination away from Trump. They won't, though, so I hope history remembers these cowards well for standing by and allowing the destruction of conservatism in the United States because they were to afraid to call out a racist bigot when they had the chance.
As for Trump, the GOP created this bastardized, gorilla of a Frankenstein's monster and they don;t know what to do. They stand to lose some seats in both Congress and the Senate if the leardership decides to endorse this moron.
I urge my fellow Sanders supporters out there: do not be so disillusioned with Clinton clinching the nomination. The Bern has opened a fault line in the electorate that many of us Progressives had feared was long dead. We may have lost the battle but we will win the war.
Now is the Time is to keep working and lets send some progressive, socialist democrats to congress in two years and in another six we put forth a young and vibrant candidate to take up the torch and bring this country out of the darkness.
I don't disagree, except that I don't view Clinton as the evil villain you and Chris do.
Indeed, if the country is going to continue to move left, it is going to need federal judges and a SCOTUS that is sympathetic to its cause. Clinton can put those judges in place.
*blows nose*
Sorry- looking like I'll have to purchase a hat to eat here...
*wipes tears*
I will offer some sympathy. Sanders' message is an important one, just bad timing and perhaps wrong messenger. IMHO, Elizabeth Warren may turn out to be the one who picks up the torch, 6-8 years from now, and runs with it, especially if she becomes VP--which is entirely possible.
In order for the country to turn in a more progressive manner, more judges and members of congress (and legislators at the state level) have to be in place first, passing legislation that paves the way for things like a $15/hr minimum wage hike. The infrastructure just isn't there yet to support what Sanders wanted to do.
Thanks.
*blows nose again*
Now back to Bernie Sanders. I actually like his ideology. And I truly hope his ideology will become part of Clinton's presidency. Sanders is the man who had the guts to let democratic socialism rise again from the dead. It's not a dirty word again. Those same young people who massively voted for Obama, now vote for Sanders. It's great to see the youth being so self-empowered. They are our future, our long-term future.
But, for someone who is intended to always use 'democratic' in front of the word 'socialism', let's not forget that Bernie Sanders is using the Democratic Party platform to make his case. For me as a Dutchman I always wondered why Sanders did that. The Democratic Party's ideology doesn't meet the principles of Sanders. So why not making your own movement? Why not creating a new political party? I know that the Democrats also consists of many socialist minded people. But then please have the balls to use all necessary means that real democracy has to offer you: Start a new political party. But the fact is, Bernie Sanders didn't do that. If you use the Democratic Party platform, then be always aware that more people are part of that party, even moderates and progressive minded centrists. Even some mild right-wing leaning people. The sheer ignorance of that fact makes me a bit angry.
Secondly, earlier this year Bernie Sanders talked about how undemocratic the system of superdelegates were. And he has a valid point there. But in order to change that, did he really try other ways of doing something about that? He has been senator for so many decades. Then why not fighting for change of this undemocratic way of selecting a presidential candidate. Sanders didn't do that. On the contrary, he is now openly saying that he wants to convince all superdelegates to vote for him. So suddenly Sanders accepts and embraces the undemocratic system of superdelegates? Because he really needs the presidency that hard? Sorry, then you are 'playing' a bit with the very essence of democracy. I'm not surprised that, because of what Sanders has been saying about superdelegates, suddenly more and more superdelegates tend to vote for Hillary Clinton.
You know, change comes with small steps. But the way Bernie wants change for me is a bit too radical. And too often he uses the instruments of democracy only to support his case for becoming president, and not for looking at the bigger picture. I find that a bit dangerous. Bernie supporters accuse Clinton for being an undemocratic oligarch. But let's not forget that real democracy starts with yourself. And if I already see some cracks with that among Bernie supporters, I am a bit worried.
Still, the overall ideology of Bernie Sanders is a good one. And I strongly urge Hillary Clinton to include Bernie's voice in her policy if she becomes president.
I know that nowadays having a long career in politics isn't a very positive thing anymore. But please ask yourself what you like more: A real estate mogul as president, a reckless guy who believes the USA can be led as an LCC real estate company, and who doesn't mind executing a default on 'company USA'? Or do you at least prefer a continuation of 8 more years of Obama? A man who was in 2008 very similar in his ideology as compared to Sanders?
Lastly, let's not forget that Clinton gracefully conceded defeat back in 2008. And that primary process was much tighter and closer. The fact now is that even without superdelegates this year Clinton still wins. Please accept your loss gracefully, like Clinton did back in 2008.
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/09/politics/bernie-sanders-washington/index.html
Bernie Sanders just gave a speech that he continues campaigning until the Democratic Convention next month in Philadelphia. BUT, he added something very important to his little speech that....actually makes me slightly happy and that could help in keeping the Democratic Party together. Indirectly, he is apparently starting to acknowledge Hillary Clinton as the presumptive nominee.
Here's what he said:
It's actually a very stylish gesture from Bernie Sanders. And it actually turns the primary campaigning period, until Philadelphia, into one that is similar of 2008. The harsh criticism between Hillary and Bernie seems to be gone. And, at least until the Democratic Convention, one should not expect too much criticism anymore from Sanders towards Hillary.
Both Bernie and Hillary are gearing up to defeat Trump! And perhaps, Mr Sanders, is openly solliciting to a position in a future Clinton-cabinet.
But the mostly good news is this: As quoted by Bernie Sanders:
So, at least until Phildapelphia we won't get a lot of bickering between both Hillary and Bernie. Mr Sanders does not aim his fight at Hillary anymore; he doesn't say that his primary goal is winning the Democratic candidacy. So now Mr Sanders sees the importance of keeping the Democratic Party unified, by starting to aim his arrows at Donald Trump. And he is doing it in such a graceful way to let the youth vote slowly prepare for what's going to happen on the Democratic Convention next month: The nomination of Hillary Clinton.
I think this is graceful Bernie! And that comes from a Hillary supporter :-).
PS: Wouldn't it be a nice idea to include Bernie Sanders and people that endorse his movement, plus Green Party's Jill Stein....in a future Clinton-cabinet???
What is...that supposed to mean?
http://www.salon.com/2016/06/07/bernie_sanders_is_taking_a_big_risk_if_he_doesnt_drop_out_soon_he_could_become_a_villain/
Nah, I don't think so. Read my bigger post above. The US Elections are not on July 22nd (Democratic Convention), but in November. 2008 has already proven us that such a long primary process could actually help re-adjusting the ideology of the Democratic Party in a positive way. At least all the different voices within the Democratic Party are better heard than in that "instable cardhouse" that is called the GOP. I actually think Obama pretty much nails it:
It's a good job so much of government is like one big theater performance with its bevy of roles and fraudulent displays, otherwise Republicans wouldn't be able to bluff sufficiently enough to survive the Trump steamroller.
Still, it's hard to have sympathy for a bunch of Dr. Frankensteins when they were the ones that pulled the switch and created the monster in the first place.
It is very hard to have sympathy for them. I used to think that Paul Ryan could make a decent president someday. After watching his dealings with Trump, I can guarantee that that man will never, ever get another vote from me should he run again for national office. His "outrage" the other day at Trump's racism was laughable, since he knew good and well what Trump was when he endorsed him only 24 hours prior. Disgusting.
And as a conservative, it's hard to figure out where to go in this election. I absolutely will not vote for Trump. Ditto for Hillary. Guess it'll be a protest vote going to the Johnson/Weld ticket.
In all honesty? I have some admiration and respect for your choice. That is if you vote for Johnson/Weld.
Not necessarily. It depends on what one is conservative about. Johnson describes himself as fiscally conservative and socially liberal, so there will be quite a few hardcore conservatives who might find themselves having trouble voting for someone that is that squarely in the middle of things.
I'm still working through my research on him. There are some aspects of his platform that I'm not a huge fan of (his thoughts on marijuana being one), but I do like the fact that he's the only supposedly fiscal conservative in this race (if anyone actually believes Trump will be that, then I've got a bridge to sell them).
In the end, though, I'll be either voting for Johnson and Weld or sitting this one out. One humorous aspect of this race could be if Johnson manages to win a state or two (unlikely, of course) and forces the vote to the House of Representatives. Who do they go for, two two-term governors who used to be members of their own party and are probably still more aligned with Republican values than Trump, or do they go with the racist who has hijacked their party and made fools out of all of them. That could prove to be an interesting debate for them.