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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/26/spate-of-racist-attacks-blamed-on-brexit-vote/
I'm sure it will deal with those involved.
There are also racist attacks in the EU, so it happens even in the Magical Kingdom.
There will always be simpleton idiots who get riled up, and whose passions are inflamed by these sort of things, as is the case whenever there is a 'radical Islamist' attack somewhere. That's just the way it is.
Cameron should step up and have a joint statement, perhaps with Johnson (as defacto leader of Leave), showing 'unity' and telling the nation that the choice has been made & that everyone should calm down and respect the vote.
The lack of leadership at the top post-vote is quite troubling, and leads me to conclude that they'll try to find some way to stay in ultimately, after a few more heads have rolled.
I know that. And every logical human being should know that I am only aiming at those people who execute these atrocities. Boris Johnson is not a racist. A big majority of all Brexit-ers are not racists. I know that. But people should be wary of the current sentiment..... And it isn't a nice one. Everyone who now says that the United Kingdom is the personification of unity, is lying.
Like Republicans Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan do in the USA -being silent on the bigotry that's among us-, truly is the wrong example. And I see it now with David Cameron, Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson as well.
A huge majority -perhaps 95%- of all Conservatives, Tories and Republicans aren't racists. Kudos for that. But racists on the other hand almost never vote on a left-wing party. So especially now I really expect, like you said @BondJames, a huge condemnation from all pro-Brexit-ers. And not just silence and ignorance.
Only then the 'United' Kingdom can become really united again.
And the continent is awash with unwavering tolerance. Spain and Greece have been notable for their disgusting behaviour on many occasions. Tensions are running high, with the most hardcore unleashing their filth on undeserving immigrants, but until I see otherwise I would maintain that the vast majority of Brits are some of the most tolerant individuals in Europe. Yes, you're correct that a leftist racist is wholly unlikely, but what you will find on the left is a swathe of patronising, sanctimonious, intellectuals who treat their own people with contempt unless they fall in line. Hopefully most of us occupy a rational middle-ground.
I live in Spain. I work in Spain. I pay my Spanish taxes. And I tell you one thing. I am not being bullied.
And you can say many things about intellectuals, but they don't do these things. Yes, they have been ignorant towards the lower end of the middle class and their struggles. But bigotry? Come on....:
Isn't that rather bigoted itself ?
If you can find a 'Dutch people go home' sign anywhere in the UK let me know.
All forms of discrtimination are bad. But linking the Brexit to this, is again pointing a finger and not trying to solve a problem (and unjust to many Britons!).
The basic rule is that if you add more then 10% of a 'stranger's' group to an existing group, they will be seen as foreign and treated as a thread. It's human nature. And yes, the EU's incapabillity to cope with the refugee crisis is one of the examples and reasons behind the Brexit. But that's not because of right wing extremism, but because of incompetence and the hope of the British people their government WILL act, where the EU failed.
tbh i'm kind of worried about the fear you're displaying. If you're as fearfull to anything that doesn't go your way as you've been here with the Brexit, you've got a scary life indeed.
Since the 50s. In fact Britain has come to the aid of Europe, when they have
Followed extreme right wing leaders. ;)
Having said that, it's curious that London voted to 'remain' and it is the place with the largest visible minority immigration population. That suggests to me that the economic situation is the real driver of Brexit. Those who have suffered under 'globalization' and who feel left behind are lashing out at immigrants and at anything 'foreign' (including the EU) by delivering what is in essence a massive protest vote at the direction the country is headed in. It's a vote for more isolationism at its core, and that is similar to what is happening in the US.
The generational divide (young voted to stay, older to leave) is also a key dynamic that must be analyzed. Ironically, it is the 'young' who have less job security and prospects, and yet they voted 'remain' according to stats.
I agree. Just like I find a quote like "old white people please die" sickening.
Couple of days ago I shared a video in this thread in which a protest sign with that very message was seen. But I don't hear @Gustav_Graves about that nor do I see that reported in the "mainstream" media.
http://www.therebel.media/shock_video_i_was_attacked_by_anti_fascist_thugs_in_london (2:41)
That video. There are no good, decent, polite extremists of Left or Right. There are
However millions of decent people who reject all extremist views, but who do have
Concerns about the level of immigration, doesn't make them bigots ( as Gordon
Brown told one voter )
If the mainstream political parties don't enter in to a debate, saying even to mention
It, is a bigoted view. Then they themselves leave the door open for extremist groups
To gain ground support, that's how it happens.
No. I didn't do that. You're putting incorrect words in my mouth.
That is simply not true. Are we all deaf and ignorant here? I'm not pointing fingers. I say, that the Brexit DID create an environment that is at least less friendly to immigrants. If even that fact is being slammed down, then you're simply ignorant.
You only solve problems like these, by giving a firm statement. That,,...THAT should be the starting point for healing AND solutions. Like Barones Sayeeda Warsi did! She's a conservative too you know? At least SHE is firm, speaks out against all elements of racism, bigotry and xenophobia. But I want to hear the same tone from Boris Johnson and David Cameron. But no, they are 'silent'.
You say "all forms of discrimination are bad", but you give absolutely zero insight in that problem, how small and little they may be. You just say it's there. And then you blatantly imply, that I am accusing ALL Britons for that. I find that rather pervert.
Those who can show that they will tangibly benefit the economy (at a strategic level - so those with high education in key areas that are lacking in the UK - no matter where they are from) should perhaps be the priority.
It's all a matter of timing, and it's all linked to globalization and economic competitiveness.
Friendly as always, odd that someone apparently filled with such empathy
For others, can also be so aggressive in their use of language. :D
Are you living in some kind of bubble or something? Do you know how many anti-immigrants comments I've read on Twitter and Facebook in my country in the past 2 years? A shitload of them. So no, Brexit created nothing that didn't exist already in Europe. Enough with that shit. Stop being negative on what is going on. And why are you even quoting these 'experts' who are saying the UK will factually have economy problems, when these same experts were oblivious to the 2008 crash even within the previous few weeks before it took place? Why do they suddenly know a sh*t that is going to happen?
"The end of democracy and the defeat of the Revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of lending institutions and moneyed incorporations." - Thomas Jefferson 1825.
Maybe the financial institutions that govern our lives will have to accept change, maybe this is the beginning of a great revolution when we the people take our first steps in taking back control of our nations, when candidates for office will take the lead from the great & the good, be bound by a code of integrity & deference to the position they hold, serve the public & not themselves.......Yeh, fat chance 8-}
Ughhh, I never said that! I NEVER NEVER said that Brexit created all this. But it did enhance a less friendly atmosphere.
And dammit, I have every right to point out problems. I cannot turn my above examples into sweet chocolate! It exists. And it has risen in the past decade. All I ask is a better, more firm answer from the current British leaders.
Yes if remain had a cute performing dog act they'd have won with a landslide, of sh*t they did Dave & his poodle Georgy, watch him he bites :D
And it's so easy. Look, what I should say, if I was PM:
"Not all efforts of unity should be in vain. Let's keep that in mind. Our unity is 'The United Kingdom', and not the 'Divided Kingdom'. Everyone who is currently working on our beloved island, and who is positively contributing to our culture, society, economy, needs to feel that they are welcome. Especially now, when we are at a difficult, but perhaps positive turning point in our history. I will not accept any bigotry aimed at people who do exactly those things that made our country great....and united: The United Kingdom."
The only problem with Ms Sturgeon, being a commited federalist/republican, ie wants rid of the Queen is that she does everything that is in her interest, she wishes to break up the union & make Scotland an independent state, fair enough, I've made no secret of the fact I think this would be a disaster for you & I don't really mind, however I do have issue with her budgetary skills, having seen Andrew Neil interview her after the Scottish elections & having obviously done more research into the hypothetical SNP independance budget than Ms Sturgeon, she was completely floundering, the holes in the finances were hugh, so I'd think twice before praising her for leadership skills because she could lead you down the river.
What do you expect? She is PM of Scotland, not the UK.