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I think people misread bitterness for realism. There's a whole new ball game now. I don't hate the Brits. I actually think the Brits and Dutch are on many cultural aspects alike.
I also think that the situation in the UK is similar like those in other western countries like the USA, Netherlands, Germany, Sweden, France and others. So for that wake-up call I actually praise the Brits. Just not for the stupidity that's happening now, when all Leave-politicians now refuse to lead your country.
I may sound harsh at times. But you have to understand that many other countries in Europe are now acting out of more self-interest. They do not like to see a divided country lIke the UK. This also goes for The Netherlands.
You are talking about a country where a far right party leads according to the opinion polls (an actual far right party, unlike UKIP) and may very well win the general election next year.
Friendly old girl of a town
'Neath her tavern light
On this merry night
Let us clink and drink one down
To wonderful, wonderful Copenhagen
Salty old queen of the sea
Once I sailed away
But I'm home today
Singing Copenhagen, wonderful, wonderful
Copenhagen for me
I sailed up the Skagerrak
And sailed down the Kattegat
Through the harbor and up to the quay
And there she stands waiting for me
It's still wonderful.
Either your trying to be really ironic & I missed the point or you really need to look at a map.
:D
If the UK would have had a more direct democracy, similar to The Netherlands, then UKIP would have had a lot more seats in your parliament. Rest my case about the BNP.
Yes, you can say it prevents radical right-wing parties to enter the government or parliament. But in return you have to deal with 2-party gridlock, like the USA. On top of that, of you say that such a 'direct democracy' like we have in The Netherlands, you might as well abolish the referendum possibility.
Pollsters in the UK should have polled the party affiliation of the referendum voters. You would see some interesting surprises then.
Anyway, here's a nice video showing Christoph Waltz' opinión on all this:
the advice of celebrities . :)) forget reasoned arguments, just do what the
famous person says !
Oh how I wish Copenhagen was actually in my country! Love the Danes and love Copenhagen as a city. But maybe we'll annex them through the EU? Oh wait, they didn't want to join the Euro, they're sceptical about the EU at best.... ah... pity.
Maybe we can take over Berlin then?
Oh yes, we'll sail from Amsterdam and annex Berlin!
What was that line from TLD?
"We're the laughing stock of the Intelligence community."
Replace "Intelligence community" with "Europe" and I'd say, "Yes. Yes you are." :D
* Who was last seen paddling away from the ship, despite it having not taken on water.
You lost me at decent government. There was time when elected governments were afraid of the people who voted for them, we the people. Now we are afraid of the governments and the corporations who lobby them to make policies to control us and make us cower in fear. We've lost our ability to think freely and we are taught what to think and say. Sad days indeed.
To calm everyone down ! :D
I don't really. Basically, the EU can do nothing right anymore. Everything, really everything that the EU will do from now on, EVEN necessary changes, will be contested from now on.
Yes, many people will say "You deserve it!". But even if Jean-Claude Juncker radically changes the EU status quo politics -He yesterday did something radical: Asking for approval from national parliaments about the EU-Canada Trade Treaty that under normal rules wouldn't need approval from national parliaments, because no direct national components were involved- it will not matter.
We already see that Hungary initiated a referendum about the EU immigration quota, and Netherlands will now initiate a referendum about the EU-Canada trade treaty. God knows what will happen with future, similar trade treaties that are being negotiated between the EU and the UK.
I really fear that Brexit will not only serve as a wake-up call, it will also serve as a battering ram that basically will halt every, every bit of EU policy, thus destroying the EU in its current form :(. One can say "Well done!", but all the financial mess that will happen between a possible destruction of the EU and a larger role in the long-term future EEA (European Economic Area of Free Trade), really makes me worried. I am afraid that this will crumble the western middle classes much faster, thus increasing poverty and resentment :( .
I'm really sleepless about this issue lately. Hence.....I sound harsh.
This news doesn't make me happy either. One can write "Aaah man, we should be happy that the ordinary people take back control over these bank-traitors", but it simply is. not. good. in the long-term for the ordinary people if the British Pound keeps falling like this :-(:
http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/06/investing/brexit-pound-drops/index.html
You know this, how?
From my own point of view I honestly believe that the EU has been the author of it's own demise. That it morphed from trading partnership to political union was one step too far for the British. I see discontent with the EU across the member states which in itself should tell those who administer it that they are conducting their affairs incorrectly. I have also no doubt that, given the chance, the people of many nation states would opt out.
That the markets reacted the way they have was expected. I for one have no immediate economic concerns because I have faith in my country (the fifth largest economy in the world) to ride it. That we have opened up markets which we had no access to while in the EU will provide us with not only economic stability but growth.
Here's an interesting TV ad shown on British TV. It was part of a UK government campaign. It ran until the early stages of the referendum until it was mysteriously pulled.
For us the future is bright, the future is red white & blue.
Are you kidding me? Just look at the referendum results. People who voted "Leave" feel that they loose control over their lives, that they have more empty wallets than 20 years ago, that they don't feel the benefits of globalization and the EU, that other people are taking over their jobs.
I have always felt worried about that. And I said on many occasions that current establishment politicians and leaders need to address this more fiercefully. THEY need to be the 'pager' of these 'silent majority' that now are a force to be reckoned with.
What do you want to hear from me man. That I don't take the worries of "Leave"-voters serious? Or that I DO take them serious.
Nonsense. The next British PM will be Theresa May, Andrea Leadsom or Michael Gove. Two of them supported the LEAVE campaign. If you were referring to Nigel Farage, the UKIP is not in a position of power.
Mod edit: swearing removed. So you basically say ... with your empathy! This kind of British supremacy irritates me. As if the British poor people are 'different' from Dutch poor people. As if the British middle class is enormously different from Dutch middle class citizens. Ughhhhh......