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You dont think it will beat DAF? SP really isn't that bad.
PTS: SP
Title Track: DAF (always thought this was an underrated Bassey tune)
Title Credits: DAF
Main Villain: SP (a truly uninspiring battle of the Blofelds)
Main Bond Girl: SP (Tiffany would have won this
Henchman: SP (Wint and Kidd are a lot of fun, but I do love Big Dave)
Overall Plot: DAF (another uninspiring battle)
Dialogue: DAF
Score: DAF (come on, now)
Settings: SP
Action: SP (the Hinx fight edges the Peter Franks fight)
Humor: SP
Cinematography: SP
Benign Bizarre: DAF (doesn't get much more bizarre than this one)
Suspense: DAF (yet another mess)
Minor Characters: SP (thanks, Mr. White)
Glamour: DAF (Vegas isn't enough to give it the win on settings, but does get SP here)
Bond Performance: SP (though Connery is significantly improved here from YOLT)
Spectre edges a decision at 10-8! This is its first victory in my game, now let's see how yours look.
PTS: SP
Title Track: DAF
Title Credits: DAF
Main Villain: SP
Main Bond Girl: SP
Henchman: DAF
Overall Plot: SP
Dialogue: SP
Score: DAF
Settings: SP
Action: SP
Humor: DAF
Cinematography: SP
Benign Bizarre: DAF
Suspense: DAF
Minor Characters: SP
Glamour: DAF
Bond Performance: SP
SP 10
DAF 8
As far as the 60's go, all films would have won in each category against Spectre except YOLT's Mie Hama and TB's Vargas would have lost against Léa Seydoux and Hinx. Also DN's action was no match for SP's.
Now on to some tighter matches, I suppose:
DAF vs. SP
PTS: SP
Title Track: DAF
Title Credits: DAF
Main Villain: DAF
Main Bond Girl: SP
Henchman: DAF
Overall Plot: SP
Dialogue: DAF
Score: DAF
Settings: SP
Action: SP
Humor: DAF
Cinematography: SP
Benign Bizarre: DAF
Suspense: SP
Minor Characters: SP
Glamour: SP
Bond Performance: SP
DAF (8) vs. SP (10)
Bizarre, but Spectre grabs a win here in the first game where it stands a chance.
Title track: DAF
Title credits: SP
Main villain: SP
Main Bond girl: SP
Henchman: DAF
Plot: DAF
Dialogue: DAF
Score: DAF
Settings: SP
Action: SP
Humour: DAF
Cinematography: SP
Benign Bizarre: no idea what that means
Suspense: SP
Minor Characters: DAF
Glamour: SP
Bond performance: SP
SPECTRE wins.
Title track: DAF (Incredible song.)
Title credits: DAF
Main villain: DAF (Blofeld in SP does absolutely nothing for me.)
Main Bond girl: DAF
Henchman: DAF (Close one, because I really enjoy Hinx)
Plot: DAF
Dialogue: DAF (Lot of cringe-worthy lines to be found in SP.)
Score: DAF
Settings: SP
Action: DAF (I enjoy a lot more of the action in this; the only part that is truly interesting and fun for me in SP is the train fight.)
Humour: DAF
Cinematography: SP
Benign Bizarre: DAF
Suspense: DAF
Minor Characters: DAF
Glamour: SP
Bond performance: DAF (Not a tough decision at all.)
DAF wins, 14-4.
Title track: DAF
Title credits: DAF
Main villain: DAF (I really dig Gray's performance)
Main Bond girl: DAF
Henchman: DAF
Plot: DAF (at least it has one)
Dialogue: DAF (Best in the series)
Score: DAF
Settings: SP (just)
Action: DAF
Humour: DAF (funniest film in the series)
Cinematography: SP
Benign Bizarre: DAF (but of course)
Suspense: DAF
Minor Characters: DAF
Glamour: SP
Bond performance: DAF (Hilarious dead-pan deliveries from Sean)
DAF- 14
SP- 4
Title track: DAF - Superb. WOTW is trying to channel this but clearly never going to get close to a classic Barry/Bassey combo.
Title credits: DAF - Close but love the cat with the necklace segue.
Main villain: DAF - surprising even myself here by saying I'm going to go with Charles. Waltz does a solid 7/10 job but for him that's phoning it in for him. Gray is just so bloody entertaining throughout I going to let him shade it.
Main Bond girl: SP - A stunning French bird v a gobby American? No chance.
Henchman: SP - For me the key attribute of a henchman is to put Bond in peril not crack one liners and place Bond in increasingly convoluted and easily escapable traps. Admittedly Hinx is badly underused and killed too soon but the fight alone wins him this one.
Plot: DAF - Very close and although DAF also drops off a cliff towards the end the early diamond smuggling stuff sneaks it.
Dialogue: DAF - Every scene is bristling with cracking exchanges.
Score: DAF - No explanation required. We all know why.
Settings: SP - Amsterdam is fine but Vegas comes off as extremely tacky.
Action: SP - Hinx and Franks fights best things in both films but after that lame moon buggy and lame car chase round the universal backlot v decent PTS, and average car and plane chases enough to see SP home.
Humour: DAF - 'Mrs Whistler did want some picture of the canals for the children' and 'Alimentary Dr Leiter' get me every time. And DAF is packed with equally good one liners.
Cinematography: SP - Absolutely no contest here at all despite the yellow filter.
Benign Bizarre: DAF - Wint & Kidd probably win this on their own as they are pretty weird.
Suspense: SP - Neither has much but the torture scene does enough to get ASAP over the line.
Minor Characters: SP - Heresy I know to deny the Herg himself but Mr White and Lucia are proper characters compared to charicatures such as Shady Tree, Saxby and Plenty.
Glamour: SP - See settings. Power sliding your DB10 past the Vatican comfortably trumps chugging your Mustang past Circus Circus.
Bond performance: SP - Sean having a great time but clearly only there for the cheque. Dan drops down a notch from his previous 3 but still dies enough.
SP notches its first win 10-8. A lot closer than I thought it would be to be fair.
Title track: DAF
Title credits: DAF
Main villain: DAF
Main Bond girl: SP
Henchman: DAF
Plot: DAF
Dialogue: DAF
Score: DAF
Settings: SP
Action: SP
Humour: DAF
Cinematography: SP
Benign Bizarre: DAF
Suspense: DAF
Minor Characters: SP
Glamour: SP
Bond performance: SP
DAF - 10
SP - 8
Title Track: Spectre*
Title Credits: Spectre
Main Villain: Spectre
Main Bond Girl: Spectre
Henchman: Spectre
Overall Plot: Spectre
Dialogue: Spectre
Score: Spectre
Settings: Spectre
Action: Spectre
Humor: Spectre
Cinematography: Spectre
Benign Bizarre: Spectre
Suspense: Spectre
Minor Characters: Spectre
Glamour: Spectre
Bond Performance: Spectre
Total:
Diamonds Are Forever: 0
Spectre: 18
Winner: Spectre
A savage defeat of Diamonds Are Forever at the hands of Spectre.
*This category could have gone either way, I don't care of either of them.
Title track: DAF
Title credits: SP
Main villain: SP
Main Bond girl: SP
Henchman: SP
Plot: SP
Dialogue: SP
Score: DAF
Settings: SP
Action: SP
Humour: DAF
Cinematography: SP
Benign Bizarre: DAF
Suspense: SP
Minor Characters: SP
Glamour: SP
Bond performance: SP
SP - 14
DAF - 4
PTS: SP
Title track: DAF
Title credits: SP
Main villain: SP
Main Bond girl: SP
Henchman: SP
Plot: SP
Dialogue: DAF
Score: DAF
Settings: SP
Action: SP
Humour: DAF
Cinematography: SP
Benign Bizarre: DAF
Suspense: SP
Minor Characters: DAF
Glamour: SP
Bond performance: SP
SP - 12
DAF - 6
A Spectre win, over a much better Bond film than I had previously thought.
He's far too cantankerous for that.
Title track: DAF
Title credits: SP
Main villain: DAF
Main Bond girl: SP
Henchman: DAF
Plot: DAF
Dialogue: DAF
Score: DAF
Settings: SP
Action: SP
Humour: DAF
Cinematography: SP
Benign Bizarre: DAF
Suspense: SP
Minor Characters: DAF
Glamour: DAF
Bond performance: SP
10-8 DAF
PTS: SP
Title track: DAF
Title credits: DAF
Main villain: DAF
Main Bond girl: SP
Henchman: DAF
Plot: DAF (I don't like both)
Dialogue: DAF
Score: DAF
Settings: SP
Action: SP (I don't like both)
Humour: DAF
Cinematography: SP
Benign Bizarre: DAF
Suspense: SP (both have hardly any of it, the Sp Meeting and Mr. White scene decide it)
Minor Characters: SP. Both are quiet good here.
Glamour:SP (Sean with an ash tray on his belly? Need I say more?)
Bond performance: DAF (Close, give it to DAF this time)
10-8 DAF
Title track: DAF
Title credits: SP
Main villain: SP
Main Bond girl: SP
Henchman: SP
Plot: SP
Dialogue: SP
Score: DAF
Settings: SP
Action: SP
Humour: SP
Cinematography: SP
Benign Bizarre: DAF
Suspense: SP
Minor Characters: SP
Glamour: SP
Bond performance: SP
SP - 15
DAF - 3
Well said.
Pre-Titles: Tie. Vengeful Bond and Helicopter stunts are GOOD.
Title track: DAF hands down. Dame Bassey over Sam Smith any day.
Title credits: DAF.
Main villain: DAF.
Main Bond girl: Spectre. Lea wins, and I'd rather have seen a Tiffany a bit more like her novel counterpart; tough where she needs to be, but damsel-in-distress-ish enough so as not to get too annoying.
Henchman: DAF. Wint and Kidd sure make a good pair of hitmen. Bambi and Thumper, well... meh.
Plot: DAF. To quote a certain gentleman tailor named Messer H. Hart, "Give me a far-fetched theatrical plot any day." Or in this case, even more far-fetched.
Dialogue: Tie. Both have their own grace and charm.
Score: DAF. John Barry lives forever (pun may or may not be intended), plus the grossly-underrated track Airport Source/On The Road wins me over.
Settings: DAF. I think I love the Nevada desert now.
Action: Tie, though I like the Mustang chase over the Alps and Rome sequences.
Humour: DAF, only very slightly, with the whole scene in the penthouse
Cinematography: Tie. Car chases are of course, the highlight of both.
Benign Bizarre: DAF. This IS the seventies, mind you.
Suspense: DAF. Elevator scenes and pipe machines, please!
Minor Characters: Tie. Q and Moneypenny sure get a fair bit of action and helping in both.
Glamour: DAF. Vegas seems to help a lot.
Bond performance: DAF. Craig sounds so boring at times.
12-1-5, DAF wins. I think I love it too much, but oh well.
At a glance, you only have Spectre down for 1 win.
PTS: SP - An interesting action piece with some increadable flying versus a mud-bath and a topless girl.
Title track: DAF easy
Title credits: SP this one was a close call, love the DAF credits, but the SP even more so.
Main villain: SP At least he's a true villain instead of a drag queen.
Main Bond girl: SP Still in love with Lea.
Henchman: SP Hinx is far more menacing then Wint and Kidd. Love them though.
Plot: SP Not the strongest, but DAF's has so many holes in it the film just doesn't make sense anymore. Film scripts are obviously not what Dahl is good at.
Dialogue: DAF, one thing Dahl did right.
Score: DAF By far.
Settings: SP Amsterdam, even then, isn't that glamourous.
Action: SP It may not be the most exciting action, except for the helicopter and Hinx, but it's still miles away from the utter boredom in DAF's action sequences.
Humour: SP I like the darker version.
Cinematography: SP hands down.
Benign Bizarre: DAF As there's little in SP.
Suspense: SP Again, at least in SP there's some. DAF lacks it completely.
Minor Characters: SP Wint and Kidd are entertaining, but Mr. White on his own beats them easily, not even mentioning the Sciara's.
Glamour: SP Obviously.
Bond performance: SP By miles. It may not be Craig's best performance, but it's way better then a bored Connery.
SP - 14
DAF - 4
I'd compare it to a Porsche: boring as hell and the Obvious choice for those with no taste wanting to show off their money.
Title track: DAF
Title credits: SP
Main villain: SP
Main Bond girl: SP
Henchman: SP
Plot: SP
Dialogue: SP
Score: DAF
Settings: SP
Action: SP
Humour: SP
Cinematography: SP
Benign Bizarre: DAF
Suspense: SP
Minor Characters: SP
Glamour: SP
Bond performance: SP
SP wins 15-3
Title track: DAF (Goes without saying.)
Title credits: SP (SP wins by virtue of greater creativity.)
Main villain: DAF (At least Grey is amusing.)
Main Bond girl: SP (Craig's leading ladies have all been superb.)
Henchman: DAF (Hinx is marvelous, but W&K are unique and so very droll.)
Plot: SP (SP's plot is underrated. I love the idea of using terrorist attacks to herd recalcitrant states into a corrupted security apparatus.)
Dialogue: DAF (No contest. DAF's dialogue may be the best in the series.)
Score: DAF (Barry was at the peak of his powers in DAF and OHMSS.)
Settings: SP (Vegas and North Africa tie, but Rome gives SP the overall edge.)
Action: SP (A relatively easy win for SP. I do love Seanery's mountaineering though.)
Humour: DAF (The wittiest bond film of them all.)
Cinematography: SP (The more recent films usually win this category.)
Benign Bizarre: DAF (Strengths of both films, but DAF is the textbook example of Benign Bizarre.)
Suspense: SP
Minor Characters: DAF (DAF blows 'em all away in this category.)
Glamour: SP (A fairly easy call. I love Vegas in '71, but not because of its glamor.)
Bond performance: SP (Seanery was better here than in YOLT, but still was a bit somnolent.)
SP: 10
DAF: 8