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We have a very effete BLOFELD whose preening music hall, drag-queen confidence makes for a deliciously unnerving villain (and potentially the best attempt at showing BLOFELD the character’s psychosis and derangements).
The best villains pose a threat to the hero and the audience. Whatever the merits of DAF, my guess is most fans don't appreciate the film for Gray's "music hall, drag queen confidence." When a car stunt is more memorable than the villain, that's a problem.
DAF opens in Japan with an oriental figure from John Barry in the style of his score for YOLT, a Japanese thug being thrown through a shōji, and no mention of Bond's dead wife.
Why do fans keep deluding themselves?
I agree with most of your comments except the indictment on Lazenby and OHMSS.
I hope you will go back and watch that movie. Lazenby gives a good performance 90% of the time. Tracy's death scene is very sad and moving, and his fight scenes were brutal. I daresay he could kick every Bond actors butt in a fight (except Connery)
I prefer the more realistic movies: LTK, CR, FRWL.
I consider Moonraker to be the worst of the franchise and I am not a fan of TSWLM either. It is considered Moore's best but I never liked that film. Too juvenile and silly (like Moonraker)
Female agent named Triple X (kinda crap you saw in matt Helm's movies of the 60's)
Jaws surviving things that would have maimed or killed anyone (kicked out of train, car crash, going over the falls, landing on a circus tent after parachute failed to open)
You right, they did start to get over the top after Goldfinger. Thunderball is enjoyable but if you will go back and look at it the writing is not that good, and Bond just stumbles onto Specter's plan thru no real spy work of his own..Production team decided to make the gadgets and stunts the real stars here....
Wow I completely agree 100% . Sexpionage where have you been ? I wish you were stil active on the forums because you are absolutley correct
I thought if somebody got banned aren't they meant to be banned again when they rejoined?
CR is a dark film and the minor escapism is to relieve the tension. But it never lasts long. I mean the torture scene with Le Chiffre let's you know in no uncertain terms this is not a Roger Moore movie. The airport scene is not a fun romp like the boat chase in LALD. Bond is shown in CR to get little relaxation time.
The glamour is there in CR but the hostility of atmosphere is where the glamour is contrasted against. You get a sense that Bond has it tough despite the exotic interiors of the casino.
QOS is dark but lighter than CR. And QOS required plenty of thinking and it shows that being Bond is not a job many would like to do. When villains attack you, they mean you severe harm and Bond has to match up to that or be dead quick.
Thanks
Anyone that would go as far as to say they would absolutely despise any of us that think Sir Rog is the best Bond should be simply ignored. Sir Rog is not my favourite but he is a great Bond in a more lighthearted fantasy interpretation of Bond. The Fleming Bond and the cinematic Bond don't have to be set in stone. The character should be allowed to have a variation of interpretation as long as the general essence of Bond remains.
True, DAF was the gateway to Austin Powers and Dr. Evil. That doesn't mean that they can't just re-imagine the whole character within the context of the modern re-boot era.
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We had this in FRWL. PTS, "fake Bond" gets killed by Grant in PECTRE training exercise. Followed by outline of SPECTRE plan by Kronsteen to Blofeld and Klebb aboard yacht, Klebb choosing Grant for mission on SPECTRE island, Klebb recruiting Tatiana in Istanbul. It's a good 20 minutes before we see James Bond. And the film works perfectly!
FRWL, I class as my favourite- but in general I like more OTT scenes in my Bond films. FYEO- another excellent entry, has a bit of humour and a few far-fetched moments (namely the PTS), but for the most part is serious Bond. TB seems to be a little unrealistic in the sense that the film is full of coincidences, but it pretty much has the balance I want when it comes to the topic at hand. Concerning gadgets, and villain's plots involving space lasers etc.- well, although the technology in Bond only gets more plausible over time, I feel these things should be used sparingly, and focus on real world situations preferably.
Just out of interest, I've made a list loosely rating the films from most serious/realistic to OTT/sci-fi fantasy. It may not be accurate, as I haven't watched them in a while:
CR
QOS
FRWL
FYEO
TLD
LTK
OP
AVTAK
TWINE
OHMSS
TB
NSNA
TMWTGG
GF
DAF
TND
DN
GE
LALD
YOLT
TSWLM
MR
DAD
SF (unrated, yet to see)
Pleasance's Blofeld was certainly iconic, but hardly plausible. All in my humble opinion, of course.
In this context, are Moore's films really so ridiculous? Is Fleming's Bond really that serious?
I was really responding to the OP.
I don't know about anyone else. But I don't really want Bond to be fighting with armies to stop Blofeld type villains anymore. I want to see the Bond of the Books, Flemings vision. Craig's Bond is now Built. I'm excited to see what he does next, and maybe we can have a movie where Bond and Felix team up.
Um, doesn't Fleming's Bond fight Blofeld?
Yes, but most of the film versions of Blofeld don't really feel like the book version.
I consider Blofeld in FRWL ,TB and OHMSS to be Flemings Blofeld, everyone else meh.
Um, are we talking about Fleming's Blofeld from Thunderball, or his Blofeld from On Her Majesty's, or his Blofeld from You Only Live Twice? Because he seems to be a completely different character in each. The Blofeld in Fleming's TB is vastly different from the one in YOLT, for example.
I feel that the TB Novel Blofeld is the Blofeld seen in FRWL, TB and OHMSS. the calm collected Blofeld. I know he changes differently but the TB Novel Blofeld is who I see in the movies.
Anyway...my point is. I don't want to see James Bond fighting the overused Megalomaniacs anymore.